Subject: he's a mouthy little dog
From: "culprit"
Date: Tue, Sep 2, 2003 7:22 AM
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well, maybe not so little.

Manu has been pretty mouthy since he came to live with me. sometimes he
tries to get my attention by taking my hand in his mouth. or he'll try
to
get me to stop paying attention to Lola the same way. sometimes when we
play, he'll nip my arm or thigh. he's never broken the skin, but he does
leave the occasional bruise. so far, he only does this with me.

i've tried the usual, yelping and turning my back. this doesn't seem to
faze him at all. i've read suggestions to spray something in his mouth
(lemon juice, vinegar, binaca), but i can't imagine always having something
in my pocket, ready to spray in his mouth at a second's notice. i had no
problem training Lola with the yelp and ignore method, but Manu is much
less
sensitive then Lola, he doesn't seem to care whether i'm growling or
praising, he just looks at me and wags his tail like a goofball.

he's very food motivated, and usually pretty laid back. i'd live with it,
but it's annoying, and i'm afraid he'll someday nip someone and get PTS
for
"attacking" them. today i was so annoyed with him that i flicked his nose
with my finger. he stopped, looked up at me, then licked my hand where
he
had put his mouth. i know that got his attention, but i'm hesitant to train
my dog with pain, small pain though it may be.

he's a Pit Bull x Lab mix, and i hear that mouthiness can be hard to break
in Labs. anyone have any first hand experience or know methods that work?

-kelly



Hi Kelly~

How old is Manu?

And do you know when he left his Mom and litter mates?

Usually a very mouthy pup has left too soon and never learned from his pack.

That said,when he starts to bite,get his attention on something else.

You can say OUCH or NO and or blow in their nose.

I have also found that dogs that are food motivated,can be stopped of the
mouthiness biting by having a bit of kibble, ready in your pocket,and when he
mouths, get his attention show him the treat.

He will stop mouthing, hold the kibble for a few seconds,then give it to him.

This takes his attention off mouthing and on to the food and he learns that NO
MOUTHING means TASTY TREAT. : )

If he is teething, wet a face cloth, freeze it and let him suck on it to soothe
his gums.

I have not had much of a problem, as I guess I am always giving them so much
attention they do not feel the need to needle nose me.

As for ALWAYS having something in their mouths, well try having Chessies who
are always carrying something. ; )


Woofs

Paulette~

Subject: he's a mouthy little dog
From: "culprit"
Date: Tue, Sep 2, 2003 7:22 AM
Message-id:

well, maybe not so little.

Manu has been pretty mouthy since he came to live with me. sometimes he
tries to get my attention by taking my hand in his mouth. or he'll try
to
get me to stop paying attention to Lola the same way. sometimes when we
play, he'll nip my arm or thigh. he's never broken the skin, but he does
leave the occasional bruise. so far, he only does this with me.

i've tried the usual, yelping and turning my back. this doesn't seem to
faze him at all. i've read suggestions to spray something in his mouth
(lemon juice, vinegar, binaca), but i can't imagine always having something
in my pocket, ready to spray in his mouth at a second's notice. i had no
problem training Lola with the yelp and ignore method, but Manu is much
less
sensitive then Lola, he doesn't seem to care whether i'm growling or
praising, he just looks at me and wags his tail like a goofball.

he's very food motivated, and usually pretty laid back. i'd live with it,
but it's annoying, and i'm afraid he'll someday nip someone and get PTS
for
"attacking" them. today i was so annoyed with him that i flicked his nose
with my finger. he stopped, looked up at me, then licked my hand where
he
had put his mouth. i know that got his attention, but i'm hesitant to train
my dog with pain, small pain though it may be.

he's a Pit Bull x Lab mix, and i hear that mouthiness can be hard to break
in Labs. anyone have any first hand experience or know methods that work?

-kelly



Hi Kelly~

How old is Manu?

And do you know when he left his Mom and litter mates?

Usually a very mouthy pup has left too soon and never learned from his pack.

That said,when he starts to bite,get his attention on something else.

You can say OUCH or NO and or blow in their nose.

I have also found that dogs that are food motivated,can be stopped of the
mouthiness biting by having a bit of kibble, ready in your pocket,and when he
mouths, get his attention show him the treat.

He will stop mouthing, hold the kibble for a few seconds,then give it to him.

This takes his attention off mouthing and on to the food and he learns that NO
MOUTHING means TASTY TREAT. : )

If he is teething, wet a face cloth, freeze it and let him suck on it to soothe
his gums.

I have not had much of a problem, as I guess I am always giving them so much
attention they do not feel the need to needle nose me.

As for ALWAYS having something in their mouths, well try having Chessies who
are always carrying something. ; )


Woofs

Paulette~

"Kind2dogs" wrote in message
...

How old is Manu?

And do you know when he left his Mom and litter mates?

he's a year old, and we have no idea when he left the nest, he was purchased
on the streets of Seattle at about 4 months of age from a homeless person.


That said,when he starts to bite,get his attention on something else.

You can say OUCH or NO and or blow in their nose.

yeah, the problem is getting his attention. i'd prefer not to hit him.

I have also found that dogs that are food motivated,can be stopped of the
mouthiness biting by having a bit of kibble, ready in your pocket,and when
he
mouths, get his attention show him the treat.


that won't work too well, he'll smell the food in my pocket and follow me
around with his nose stuck to it until i feed it to him or put it elsewhere.
we're talking SERIOUS food motivation.

I have not had much of a problem, as I guess I am always giving them so
much
attention they do not feel the need to needle nose me.

i'd hardly say my dog lacks for attention, but thanks.

-kelly

"Kind2dogs" wrote in message
...

How old is Manu?

And do you know when he left his Mom and litter mates?

he's a year old, and we have no idea when he left the nest, he was purchased
on the streets of Seattle at about 4 months of age from a homeless person.


That said,when he starts to bite,get his attention on something else.

You can say OUCH or NO and or blow in their nose.

yeah, the problem is getting his attention. i'd prefer not to hit him.

I have also found that dogs that are food motivated,can be stopped of the
mouthiness biting by having a bit of kibble, ready in your pocket,and when
he
mouths, get his attention show him the treat.


that won't work too well, he'll smell the food in my pocket and follow me
around with his nose stuck to it until i feed it to him or put it elsewhere.
we're talking SERIOUS food motivation.

I have not had much of a problem, as I guess I am always giving them so
much
attention they do not feel the need to needle nose me.

i'd hardly say my dog lacks for attention, but thanks.

-kelly

Subject: he's a mouthy little dog
From: "culprit"
Date: Tue, Sep 2, 2003 7:58 AM
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"Kind2dogs" wrote in message
...

How old is Manu?

And do you know when he left his Mom and litter mates?

he's a year old, and we have no idea when he left the nest, he was purchased
on the streets of Seattle at about 4 months of age from a homeless person.

So then probably he did leave his nest too soon.


That said,when he starts to bite,get his attention on something else.

You can say OUCH or NO and or blow in their nose.

yeah, the problem is getting his attention. i'd prefer not to hit him.

Well hitting is not a good thing. And I am sure he would prefer you not hitting
as well.


I have also found that dogs that are food motivated,can be stopped of
the
mouthiness biting by having a bit of kibble, ready in your pocket,and
when
he
mouths, get his attention show him the treat.


that won't work too well, he'll smell the food in my pocket and follow me
around with his nose stuck to it until i feed it to him or put it elsewhere.
we're talking SERIOUS food motivation.

A pup that is one year old and is still biting your hand, needs to be trained
not to.

A dog that does not know the meaning of the word *NO* needs to learn what is
acceptable and what is not.

If you think food is not going to work, just make yourself the most fascinating
thing,and get his attention on YOU.

Myself I find this to be the best approach.



I have not had much of a problem, as I guess I am always giving them so
much
attention they do not feel the need to needle nose me.

i'd hardly say my dog lacks for attention, but thanks.

This was not meant to say you do not give your dogs attention.

-kelly

Paulette~

Subject: he's a mouthy little dog
From: "culprit"
Date: Tue, Sep 2, 2003 7:58 AM
Message-id:


"Kind2dogs" wrote in message
...

How old is Manu?

And do you know when he left his Mom and litter mates?

he's a year old, and we have no idea when he left the nest, he was purchased
on the streets of Seattle at about 4 months of age from a homeless person.

So then probably he did leave his nest too soon.


That said,when he starts to bite,get his attention on something else.

You can say OUCH or NO and or blow in their nose.

yeah, the problem is getting his attention. i'd prefer not to hit him.

Well hitting is not a good thing. And I am sure he would prefer you not hitting
as well.


I have also found that dogs that are food motivated,can be stopped of
the
mouthiness biting by having a bit of kibble, ready in your pocket,and
when
he
mouths, get his attention show him the treat.


that won't work too well, he'll smell the food in my pocket and follow me
around with his nose stuck to it until i feed it to him or put it elsewhere.
we're talking SERIOUS food motivation.

A pup that is one year old and is still biting your hand, needs to be trained
not to.

A dog that does not know the meaning of the word *NO* needs to learn what is
acceptable and what is not.

If you think food is not going to work, just make yourself the most fascinating
thing,and get his attention on YOU.

Myself I find this to be the best approach.



I have not had much of a problem, as I guess I am always giving them so
much
attention they do not feel the need to needle nose me.

i'd hardly say my dog lacks for attention, but thanks.

This was not meant to say you do not give your dogs attention.

-kelly

Paulette~

"Kind2dogs" wrote in message
...
A pup that is one year old and is still biting your hand, needs to be
trained
not to.

A dog that does not know the meaning of the word *NO* needs to learn what
is
acceptable and what is not.

If you think food is not going to work, just make yourself the most
fascinating
thing,and get his attention on YOU.

Myself I find this to be the best approach.

no, really? yeah, i've read the books and i understand the theory. i've
successfully trained one dog not to come near me with her teeth, it was easy
and worked very well.

unfortunately, this dog is a little tougher, and the usual methods don't
seem to be working. i'd really like some firsthand advice from anyone who's
dealt with a similar situation with a thick-headed dog.

-kelly

"Kind2dogs" wrote in message
...
A pup that is one year old and is still biting your hand, needs to be
trained
not to.

A dog that does not know the meaning of the word *NO* needs to learn what
is
acceptable and what is not.

If you think food is not going to work, just make yourself the most
fascinating
thing,and get his attention on YOU.

Myself I find this to be the best approach.

no, really? yeah, i've read the books and i understand the theory. i've
successfully trained one dog not to come near me with her teeth, it was easy
and worked very well.

unfortunately, this dog is a little tougher, and the usual methods don't
seem to be working. i'd really like some firsthand advice from anyone who's
dealt with a similar situation with a thick-headed dog.

-kelly

Subject: he's a mouthy little dog
From: "culprit"
Date: Tue, Sep 2, 2003 8:13 AM
Message-id:


"Kind2dogs" wrote in message
...
A pup that is one year old and is still biting your hand, needs to be
trained
not to.

A dog that does not know the meaning of the word *NO* needs to learn what
is
acceptable and what is not.

If you think food is not going to work, just make yourself the most
fascinating
thing,and get his attention on YOU.

Myself I find this to be the best approach.

no, really? yeah, i've read the books and i understand the theory. i've
successfully trained one dog not to come near me with her teeth, it was
easy
and worked very well.

unfortunately, this dog is a little tougher, and the usual methods don't
seem to be working. i'd really like some firsthand advice from anyone who's
dealt with a similar situation with a thick-headed dog.

-kelly


Ahhhhh Kelly~

There is NO DOG more THICK HEADED then a Chessie, and my life has been devoted
to REHABBING the most SERIOUS of dogs that needed MUCHO WORK.

So I have LOTS OF EXPERIENCE, but I guess you do not want to go with it.

Paulette~

Subject: he's a mouthy little dog
From: "culprit"
Date: Tue, Sep 2, 2003 8:13 AM
Message-id:


"Kind2dogs" wrote in message
...
A pup that is one year old and is still biting your hand, needs to be
trained
not to.

A dog that does not know the meaning of the word *NO* needs to learn what
is
acceptable and what is not.

If you think food is not going to work, just make yourself the most
fascinating
thing,and get his attention on YOU.

Myself I find this to be the best approach.

no, really? yeah, i've read the books and i understand the theory. i've
successfully trained one dog not to come near me with her teeth, it was
easy
and worked very well.

unfortunately, this dog is a little tougher, and the usual methods don't
seem to be working. i'd really like some firsthand advice from anyone who's
dealt with a similar situation with a thick-headed dog.

-kelly


Ahhhhh Kelly~

There is NO DOG more THICK HEADED then a Chessie, and my life has been devoted
to REHABBING the most SERIOUS of dogs that needed MUCHO WORK.

So I have LOTS OF EXPERIENCE, but I guess you do not want to go with it.

Paulette~