Hi all, i pick up my puppy in 3 weeks and would love to hear your comments
on crate training, i havent tried this before and really want it to work. I
have heard alot of things about leaving the pup without water (i hate that
idea) but was wondering how you all started out?

Cin

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From: "Cin"

Hi all, i pick up my puppy in 3 weeks and would love to hear your comments
on crate training, i havent tried this before and really want it to work. I
have heard alot of things about leaving the pup without water (i hate that
idea) but was wondering how you all started out?

I use 2 crates. I use a smaller (dependent on size fo puppy) plastic
airline/vari-kennel type of crate, next to my bed for overnight, and a larger
(adult sized - have never blocked) wire crate in a family area for times I'm
gone during the day or evening. Actually, I use a crate in the car as well,
sized for the puppy.

I don't leave water, but don't leave the pup too long either. I also keep my
house rather cool, so it's not like anyone is overheating.

The only times a puppy is in the crate in my life, are when sleeping (until 4
months, when they get free run of the bedroom), when I'm in the shower (to
whatever age makes sense for that puppy - under 4 months), when I'm not home
(to what age varies - usually to somewhere in the 6-9 month range, or newly
adopted adult dog), and in the car (like a safety seat for children IMO).

Puppies follow me pretty much 24/7, or whenever I'm home. They are taught
"crate" with a reward biscuit after they go in, and it's something they learn
eagerly and quickly. I don't use bedding, as it can be problematic for many
and my dogs have seemed to enjoy the cool pan more. A chew toy is always
present. In the car and at training/events, I use a clip on bucket of water
for in the crate (non-spill).

Puppies are taken out on a regular basis (first thing upon waking from sleep or
nap, every 1-1.5 hours initially, whenever I come home from being out) and
praised verbally for eliminating on command. Puppies learn to repect the whole
house faster than being kept in a kitchen until "trained" and general bonding
is enhanced.

So what kind of puppy is this and have you picked a name yet?


Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

From: "Cin"

Hi all, i pick up my puppy in 3 weeks and would love to hear your comments
on crate training, i havent tried this before and really want it to work. I
have heard alot of things about leaving the pup without water (i hate that
idea) but was wondering how you all started out?

I use 2 crates. I use a smaller (dependent on size fo puppy) plastic
airline/vari-kennel type of crate, next to my bed for overnight, and a larger
(adult sized - have never blocked) wire crate in a family area for times I'm
gone during the day or evening. Actually, I use a crate in the car as well,
sized for the puppy.

I don't leave water, but don't leave the pup too long either. I also keep my
house rather cool, so it's not like anyone is overheating.

The only times a puppy is in the crate in my life, are when sleeping (until 4
months, when they get free run of the bedroom), when I'm in the shower (to
whatever age makes sense for that puppy - under 4 months), when I'm not home
(to what age varies - usually to somewhere in the 6-9 month range, or newly
adopted adult dog), and in the car (like a safety seat for children IMO).

Puppies follow me pretty much 24/7, or whenever I'm home. They are taught
"crate" with a reward biscuit after they go in, and it's something they learn
eagerly and quickly. I don't use bedding, as it can be problematic for many
and my dogs have seemed to enjoy the cool pan more. A chew toy is always
present. In the car and at training/events, I use a clip on bucket of water
for in the crate (non-spill).

Puppies are taken out on a regular basis (first thing upon waking from sleep or
nap, every 1-1.5 hours initially, whenever I come home from being out) and
praised verbally for eliminating on command. Puppies learn to repect the whole
house faster than being kept in a kitchen until "trained" and general bonding
is enhanced.

So what kind of puppy is this and have you picked a name yet?


Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

From: "Cin"

Hi all, i pick up my puppy in 3 weeks and would love to hear your comments
on crate training, i havent tried this before and really want it to work. I
have heard alot of things about leaving the pup without water (i hate that
idea) but was wondering how you all started out?

I use 2 crates. I use a smaller (dependent on size fo puppy) plastic
airline/vari-kennel type of crate, next to my bed for overnight, and a larger
(adult sized - have never blocked) wire crate in a family area for times I'm
gone during the day or evening. Actually, I use a crate in the car as well,
sized for the puppy.

I don't leave water, but don't leave the pup too long either. I also keep my
house rather cool, so it's not like anyone is overheating.

The only times a puppy is in the crate in my life, are when sleeping (until 4
months, when they get free run of the bedroom), when I'm in the shower (to
whatever age makes sense for that puppy - under 4 months), when I'm not home
(to what age varies - usually to somewhere in the 6-9 month range, or newly
adopted adult dog), and in the car (like a safety seat for children IMO).

Puppies follow me pretty much 24/7, or whenever I'm home. They are taught
"crate" with a reward biscuit after they go in, and it's something they learn
eagerly and quickly. I don't use bedding, as it can be problematic for many
and my dogs have seemed to enjoy the cool pan more. A chew toy is always
present. In the car and at training/events, I use a clip on bucket of water
for in the crate (non-spill).

Puppies are taken out on a regular basis (first thing upon waking from sleep or
nap, every 1-1.5 hours initially, whenever I come home from being out) and
praised verbally for eliminating on command. Puppies learn to repect the whole
house faster than being kept in a kitchen until "trained" and general bonding
is enhanced.

So what kind of puppy is this and have you picked a name yet?


Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

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Hi all, i pick up my puppy in 3 weeks and would love to hear your comments
on crate training, i havent tried this before and really want it to work.
I
have heard alot of things about leaving the pup without water (i hate that
idea) but was wondering how you all started out?

I got my puppy a month ago (yesterday!) and here's a little diary of his
housebreaking.

http://www.geocities.com/diamonds_in...ousebreak.html

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Hi all, i pick up my puppy in 3 weeks and would love to hear your comments
on crate training, i havent tried this before and really want it to work.
I
have heard alot of things about leaving the pup without water (i hate that
idea) but was wondering how you all started out?

I got my puppy a month ago (yesterday!) and here's a little diary of his
housebreaking.

http://www.geocities.com/diamonds_in...ousebreak.html

--
Emily Carroll
http://www.geocities.com/diamonds_in...yes/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/cyberpetgame
http://www.geocities.com/diamonds_in...available.html


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Hi all, i pick up my puppy in 3 weeks and would love to hear your comments
on crate training, i havent tried this before and really want it to work.
I
have heard alot of things about leaving the pup without water (i hate that
idea) but was wondering how you all started out?

I got my puppy a month ago (yesterday!) and here's a little diary of his
housebreaking.

http://www.geocities.com/diamonds_in...ousebreak.html

--
Emily Carroll
http://www.geocities.com/diamonds_in...yes/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/cyberpetgame
http://www.geocities.com/diamonds_in...available.html


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"Cin" wrote in :

Hi all, i pick up my puppy in 3 weeks

Great!! We want pictures!!

and would love to hear your
comments on crate training, i havent tried this before and really want
it to work. I have heard alot of things about leaving the pup without
water (i hate that idea) but was wondering how you all started out?

Crate training worked for us. As a puppy, bladder control is non-existant.
When very young, Moogli would go from running to peeing in about 1/2 of a
second. He could run around a couch, not appear to stop at all, yet still
leave a puddle on the other side of the couch. But that is not where the
true benefit of crating comes into play.

At night, crating helps a puppy realize bladder control. Dogs have an
instinctive ned to *not* soil their sleeping area. Even as puppies, unable
to walk very far, they will squirm and flop their way a couple of feet (1
or 2) away to eliminate. If your crate is small enough[1], your pup will
learn bladder control[2].

Your puppy needs to fell part of the pack/family. As such, crating him/her
in your bedroom is my recommendation. You will be able to hear if s/he
starts fussing and needs to go out. When that happens, take him/her out,
let him/her go, and then bring them back into the crate. If they get fussy
and don't want to go to sleep, what I found helped was a plastic 1 L coke
bottle filled with hot water and wrapped in the t-shirt I wore that day.

Crating also provides a way to ensure that, when you are not there, the pup
cannot get into trouble. When the pup is in the crate, s/he can't get to
your furniture, shoes, medicine, cleaning products, etc.

If you are uncomfortable using a crate, consider using a room that you have
puppy-proofed. You can still put the crate in there to give the pup
someplace to sleep.

As for drinking, when Moogli is in his crate during the day, he has access
to water by way of a Lixit. It is more-or-less a giant hamster bottle (See
http://www.lixit.com/products/disp_prod.asp?id=680) for an example.

[1] The crate should be large enough so that your pup can stand up, turn
around, and stretch out, but that is about it. Depending on the size
differential (pup-adult) of your breed, you may have to buy a big one and
wall part of it off with mesh or something and move the mesh as the dog
ages.

[2] The rule of thumb is, IIRC, that for every month of age, your pup can
hold his/her bladder 2 hours. So if you get the pup at 8 weeks, the pup can
be counted on top be able to go 4 hours at a stretch. Sometimes you are
lucky. When we got Moogli at 7 weeks, he was able to hold it all night.

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Marcel Beaudoin & Moogli

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"Cin" wrote in :

Hi all, i pick up my puppy in 3 weeks

Great!! We want pictures!!

and would love to hear your
comments on crate training, i havent tried this before and really want
it to work. I have heard alot of things about leaving the pup without
water (i hate that idea) but was wondering how you all started out?

Crate training worked for us. As a puppy, bladder control is non-existant.
When very young, Moogli would go from running to peeing in about 1/2 of a
second. He could run around a couch, not appear to stop at all, yet still
leave a puddle on the other side of the couch. But that is not where the
true benefit of crating comes into play.

At night, crating helps a puppy realize bladder control. Dogs have an
instinctive ned to *not* soil their sleeping area. Even as puppies, unable
to walk very far, they will squirm and flop their way a couple of feet (1
or 2) away to eliminate. If your crate is small enough[1], your pup will
learn bladder control[2].

Your puppy needs to fell part of the pack/family. As such, crating him/her
in your bedroom is my recommendation. You will be able to hear if s/he
starts fussing and needs to go out. When that happens, take him/her out,
let him/her go, and then bring them back into the crate. If they get fussy
and don't want to go to sleep, what I found helped was a plastic 1 L coke
bottle filled with hot water and wrapped in the t-shirt I wore that day.

Crating also provides a way to ensure that, when you are not there, the pup
cannot get into trouble. When the pup is in the crate, s/he can't get to
your furniture, shoes, medicine, cleaning products, etc.

If you are uncomfortable using a crate, consider using a room that you have
puppy-proofed. You can still put the crate in there to give the pup
someplace to sleep.

As for drinking, when Moogli is in his crate during the day, he has access
to water by way of a Lixit. It is more-or-less a giant hamster bottle (See
http://www.lixit.com/products/disp_prod.asp?id=680) for an example.

[1] The crate should be large enough so that your pup can stand up, turn
around, and stretch out, but that is about it. Depending on the size
differential (pup-adult) of your breed, you may have to buy a big one and
wall part of it off with mesh or something and move the mesh as the dog
ages.

[2] The rule of thumb is, IIRC, that for every month of age, your pup can
hold his/her bladder 2 hours. So if you get the pup at 8 weeks, the pup can
be counted on top be able to go 4 hours at a stretch. Sometimes you are
lucky. When we got Moogli at 7 weeks, he was able to hold it all night.

--
*******************************************
Marcel Beaudoin & Moogli

*******************************************
'90% of being smart is knowing what
you're dumb at.'
*******************************************

"Cin" wrote in :

Hi all, i pick up my puppy in 3 weeks

Great!! We want pictures!!

and would love to hear your
comments on crate training, i havent tried this before and really want
it to work. I have heard alot of things about leaving the pup without
water (i hate that idea) but was wondering how you all started out?

Crate training worked for us. As a puppy, bladder control is non-existant.
When very young, Moogli would go from running to peeing in about 1/2 of a
second. He could run around a couch, not appear to stop at all, yet still
leave a puddle on the other side of the couch. But that is not where the
true benefit of crating comes into play.

At night, crating helps a puppy realize bladder control. Dogs have an
instinctive ned to *not* soil their sleeping area. Even as puppies, unable
to walk very far, they will squirm and flop their way a couple of feet (1
or 2) away to eliminate. If your crate is small enough[1], your pup will
learn bladder control[2].

Your puppy needs to fell part of the pack/family. As such, crating him/her
in your bedroom is my recommendation. You will be able to hear if s/he
starts fussing and needs to go out. When that happens, take him/her out,
let him/her go, and then bring them back into the crate. If they get fussy
and don't want to go to sleep, what I found helped was a plastic 1 L coke
bottle filled with hot water and wrapped in the t-shirt I wore that day.

Crating also provides a way to ensure that, when you are not there, the pup
cannot get into trouble. When the pup is in the crate, s/he can't get to
your furniture, shoes, medicine, cleaning products, etc.

If you are uncomfortable using a crate, consider using a room that you have
puppy-proofed. You can still put the crate in there to give the pup
someplace to sleep.

As for drinking, when Moogli is in his crate during the day, he has access
to water by way of a Lixit. It is more-or-less a giant hamster bottle (See
http://www.lixit.com/products/disp_prod.asp?id=680) for an example.

[1] The crate should be large enough so that your pup can stand up, turn
around, and stretch out, but that is about it. Depending on the size
differential (pup-adult) of your breed, you may have to buy a big one and
wall part of it off with mesh or something and move the mesh as the dog
ages.

[2] The rule of thumb is, IIRC, that for every month of age, your pup can
hold his/her bladder 2 hours. So if you get the pup at 8 weeks, the pup can
be counted on top be able to go 4 hours at a stretch. Sometimes you are
lucky. When we got Moogli at 7 weeks, he was able to hold it all night.

--
*******************************************
Marcel Beaudoin & Moogli

*******************************************
'90% of being smart is knowing what
you're dumb at.'
*******************************************