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Old October 15th 03, 04:27 PM
Suja
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There is a young lady who comes to the dog park with her rescue Husky.
I think she's a high school student, but appears to have a good head on
her shoulders, reads tons about dogs, always interested in learning,
volunteers at the shelter, etc. So, I trust her version of events. A
family she knows, that has 5 young kids, just adopted a 12 week old
puppy. Let's set aside the fact that the rescue quite possibly has no
idea what they're doing. He's supposed to be a GSD/Boxer mix. The
family chose him because he was quite mellow when they first met him,
and gave them no trouble when he was picked up, cradled in their arms,
etc.

She went to meet the puppy, first because it *is* a puppy and she is a
dog lover, but also because the family is having problems with the pup.
After her interactions with the puppy, she said she could totally see
why the kids are terrified of the pup. This puppy was described to me
as vicious. Apparently, the puppy growls, lunges, snaps, and on more
than one occasion has bitten. The puppy bit this girl. She said that
she was just sitting there, a good 10 ft. away from the pup, talking to
his owners and not paying any attention to the puppy, when he ran over,
growled at her, and went for her hand. She had teeny tiny puncture
wounds where he had got a hold of her. Apparently, this is not at all
unusual, he growls and lunges for no reason anyone can tell, and none of
what was described sounds like normal puppy nipping/overexcited play
type behavior to me.

As a first step I suggested that the pup get a pretty thorough medical
evaluation, have his vision, hearing, etc. checked out. If all is
normal, I said that they should get a behaviorist in ASAP if they have
any intentions of keeping this puppy. Considering that the family is
already afraid of the dog, it might be in everyone's best interest if
the pup was returned to the shelter, and these folks got an older, more
mellow dog. As far as I know, the pup was kept with his littermates
until these folks brought him home, but we don't know how long he stayed
with his mother.

Any thoughts on what is going on here?

Suja
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Old October 15th 03, 05:20 PM
Jokerpit
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so now your taking someone elses life?
"Suja" wrote in message
...
:
: There is a young lady who comes to the dog park with her rescue
Husky.
: I think she's a high school student, but appears to have a good
head on
: her shoulders, reads tons about dogs, always interested in
learning,
: volunteers at the shelter, etc. So, I trust her version of
events. A
: family she knows, that has 5 young kids, just adopted a 12 week
old
: puppy. Let's set aside the fact that the rescue quite possibly
has no
: idea what they're doing. He's supposed to be a GSD/Boxer mix.
The
: family chose him because he was quite mellow when they first
met him,
: and gave them no trouble when he was picked up, cradled in
their arms,
: etc.
:
: She went to meet the puppy, first because it *is* a puppy and
she is a
: dog lover, but also because the family is having problems with
the pup.
: After her interactions with the puppy, she said she could
totally see
: why the kids are terrified of the pup. This puppy was
described to me
: as vicious. Apparently, the puppy growls, lunges, snaps, and
on more
: than one occasion has bitten. The puppy bit this girl. She
said that
: she was just sitting there, a good 10 ft. away from the pup,
talking to
: his owners and not paying any attention to the puppy, when he
ran over,
: growled at her, and went for her hand. She had teeny tiny
puncture
: wounds where he had got a hold of her. Apparently, this is not
at all
: unusual, he growls and lunges for no reason anyone can tell,
and none of
: what was described sounds like normal puppy nipping/overexcited
play
: type behavior to me.
:
: As a first step I suggested that the pup get a pretty thorough
medical
: evaluation, have his vision, hearing, etc. checked out. If all
is
: normal, I said that they should get a behaviorist in ASAP if
they have
: any intentions of keeping this puppy. Considering that the
family is
: already afraid of the dog, it might be in everyone's best
interest if
: the pup was returned to the shelter, and these folks got an
older, more
: mellow dog. As far as I know, the pup was kept with his
littermates
: until these folks brought him home, but we don't know how long
he stayed
: with his mother.
:
: Any thoughts on what is going on here?
:
: Suja


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Old October 15th 03, 05:20 PM
Jokerpit
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so now your taking someone elses life?
"Suja" wrote in message
...
:
: There is a young lady who comes to the dog park with her rescue
Husky.
: I think she's a high school student, but appears to have a good
head on
: her shoulders, reads tons about dogs, always interested in
learning,
: volunteers at the shelter, etc. So, I trust her version of
events. A
: family she knows, that has 5 young kids, just adopted a 12 week
old
: puppy. Let's set aside the fact that the rescue quite possibly
has no
: idea what they're doing. He's supposed to be a GSD/Boxer mix.
The
: family chose him because he was quite mellow when they first
met him,
: and gave them no trouble when he was picked up, cradled in
their arms,
: etc.
:
: She went to meet the puppy, first because it *is* a puppy and
she is a
: dog lover, but also because the family is having problems with
the pup.
: After her interactions with the puppy, she said she could
totally see
: why the kids are terrified of the pup. This puppy was
described to me
: as vicious. Apparently, the puppy growls, lunges, snaps, and
on more
: than one occasion has bitten. The puppy bit this girl. She
said that
: she was just sitting there, a good 10 ft. away from the pup,
talking to
: his owners and not paying any attention to the puppy, when he
ran over,
: growled at her, and went for her hand. She had teeny tiny
puncture
: wounds where he had got a hold of her. Apparently, this is not
at all
: unusual, he growls and lunges for no reason anyone can tell,
and none of
: what was described sounds like normal puppy nipping/overexcited
play
: type behavior to me.
:
: As a first step I suggested that the pup get a pretty thorough
medical
: evaluation, have his vision, hearing, etc. checked out. If all
is
: normal, I said that they should get a behaviorist in ASAP if
they have
: any intentions of keeping this puppy. Considering that the
family is
: already afraid of the dog, it might be in everyone's best
interest if
: the pup was returned to the shelter, and these folks got an
older, more
: mellow dog. As far as I know, the pup was kept with his
littermates
: until these folks brought him home, but we don't know how long
he stayed
: with his mother.
:
: Any thoughts on what is going on here?
:
: Suja


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Old October 15th 03, 05:20 PM
Jokerpit
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so now your taking someone elses life?
"Suja" wrote in message
...
:
: There is a young lady who comes to the dog park with her rescue
Husky.
: I think she's a high school student, but appears to have a good
head on
: her shoulders, reads tons about dogs, always interested in
learning,
: volunteers at the shelter, etc. So, I trust her version of
events. A
: family she knows, that has 5 young kids, just adopted a 12 week
old
: puppy. Let's set aside the fact that the rescue quite possibly
has no
: idea what they're doing. He's supposed to be a GSD/Boxer mix.
The
: family chose him because he was quite mellow when they first
met him,
: and gave them no trouble when he was picked up, cradled in
their arms,
: etc.
:
: She went to meet the puppy, first because it *is* a puppy and
she is a
: dog lover, but also because the family is having problems with
the pup.
: After her interactions with the puppy, she said she could
totally see
: why the kids are terrified of the pup. This puppy was
described to me
: as vicious. Apparently, the puppy growls, lunges, snaps, and
on more
: than one occasion has bitten. The puppy bit this girl. She
said that
: she was just sitting there, a good 10 ft. away from the pup,
talking to
: his owners and not paying any attention to the puppy, when he
ran over,
: growled at her, and went for her hand. She had teeny tiny
puncture
: wounds where he had got a hold of her. Apparently, this is not
at all
: unusual, he growls and lunges for no reason anyone can tell,
and none of
: what was described sounds like normal puppy nipping/overexcited
play
: type behavior to me.
:
: As a first step I suggested that the pup get a pretty thorough
medical
: evaluation, have his vision, hearing, etc. checked out. If all
is
: normal, I said that they should get a behaviorist in ASAP if
they have
: any intentions of keeping this puppy. Considering that the
family is
: already afraid of the dog, it might be in everyone's best
interest if
: the pup was returned to the shelter, and these folks got an
older, more
: mellow dog. As far as I know, the pup was kept with his
littermates
: until these folks brought him home, but we don't know how long
he stayed
: with his mother.
:
: Any thoughts on what is going on here?
:
: Suja


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Old October 15th 03, 05:20 PM
Jokerpit
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so now your taking someone elses life?
"Suja" wrote in message
...
:
: There is a young lady who comes to the dog park with her rescue
Husky.
: I think she's a high school student, but appears to have a good
head on
: her shoulders, reads tons about dogs, always interested in
learning,
: volunteers at the shelter, etc. So, I trust her version of
events. A
: family she knows, that has 5 young kids, just adopted a 12 week
old
: puppy. Let's set aside the fact that the rescue quite possibly
has no
: idea what they're doing. He's supposed to be a GSD/Boxer mix.
The
: family chose him because he was quite mellow when they first
met him,
: and gave them no trouble when he was picked up, cradled in
their arms,
: etc.
:
: She went to meet the puppy, first because it *is* a puppy and
she is a
: dog lover, but also because the family is having problems with
the pup.
: After her interactions with the puppy, she said she could
totally see
: why the kids are terrified of the pup. This puppy was
described to me
: as vicious. Apparently, the puppy growls, lunges, snaps, and
on more
: than one occasion has bitten. The puppy bit this girl. She
said that
: she was just sitting there, a good 10 ft. away from the pup,
talking to
: his owners and not paying any attention to the puppy, when he
ran over,
: growled at her, and went for her hand. She had teeny tiny
puncture
: wounds where he had got a hold of her. Apparently, this is not
at all
: unusual, he growls and lunges for no reason anyone can tell,
and none of
: what was described sounds like normal puppy nipping/overexcited
play
: type behavior to me.
:
: As a first step I suggested that the pup get a pretty thorough
medical
: evaluation, have his vision, hearing, etc. checked out. If all
is
: normal, I said that they should get a behaviorist in ASAP if
they have
: any intentions of keeping this puppy. Considering that the
family is
: already afraid of the dog, it might be in everyone's best
interest if
: the pup was returned to the shelter, and these folks got an
older, more
: mellow dog. As far as I know, the pup was kept with his
littermates
: until these folks brought him home, but we don't know how long
he stayed
: with his mother.
:
: Any thoughts on what is going on here?
:
: Suja


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Old October 15th 03, 05:23 PM
M. Bliss
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From what I can interpret from your posting, it sounds like normal puppy
behaviour. This is enhanced with the excitement of many small children
because the puppy now feels he is one of 'them'.
A behaviourist may be able to help but I don't feel it is a 'problem' for a
Behaviourist - this puppy's new owners need 'Training'.
If they are already afreaid of the puppy then it can do more harm than good
to try and condition the puppy to them because of that fear factor.
I believe the pup would do better in a new home that has patience to train
and socialize the puppy - and is NOT fraid of him.
Heck - he's just a baby.
JMO


"Suja" wrote in message
...

There is a young lady who comes to the dog park with her rescue Husky.
I think she's a high school student, but appears to have a good head on
her shoulders, reads tons about dogs, always interested in learning,
volunteers at the shelter, etc. So, I trust her version of events. A
family she knows, that has 5 young kids, just adopted a 12 week old
puppy. Let's set aside the fact that the rescue quite possibly has no
idea what they're doing. He's supposed to be a GSD/Boxer mix. The
family chose him because he was quite mellow when they first met him,
and gave them no trouble when he was picked up, cradled in their arms,
etc.

She went to meet the puppy, first because it *is* a puppy and she is a
dog lover, but also because the family is having problems with the pup.
After her interactions with the puppy, she said she could totally see
why the kids are terrified of the pup. This puppy was described to me
as vicious. Apparently, the puppy growls, lunges, snaps, and on more
than one occasion has bitten. The puppy bit this girl. She said that
she was just sitting there, a good 10 ft. away from the pup, talking to
his owners and not paying any attention to the puppy, when he ran over,
growled at her, and went for her hand. She had teeny tiny puncture
wounds where he had got a hold of her. Apparently, this is not at all
unusual, he growls and lunges for no reason anyone can tell, and none of
what was described sounds like normal puppy nipping/overexcited play
type behavior to me.

As a first step I suggested that the pup get a pretty thorough medical
evaluation, have his vision, hearing, etc. checked out. If all is
normal, I said that they should get a behaviorist in ASAP if they have
any intentions of keeping this puppy. Considering that the family is
already afraid of the dog, it might be in everyone's best interest if
the pup was returned to the shelter, and these folks got an older, more
mellow dog. As far as I know, the pup was kept with his littermates
until these folks brought him home, but we don't know how long he stayed
with his mother.

Any thoughts on what is going on here?

Suja



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Old October 15th 03, 05:23 PM
M. Bliss
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From what I can interpret from your posting, it sounds like normal puppy
behaviour. This is enhanced with the excitement of many small children
because the puppy now feels he is one of 'them'.
A behaviourist may be able to help but I don't feel it is a 'problem' for a
Behaviourist - this puppy's new owners need 'Training'.
If they are already afreaid of the puppy then it can do more harm than good
to try and condition the puppy to them because of that fear factor.
I believe the pup would do better in a new home that has patience to train
and socialize the puppy - and is NOT fraid of him.
Heck - he's just a baby.
JMO


"Suja" wrote in message
...

There is a young lady who comes to the dog park with her rescue Husky.
I think she's a high school student, but appears to have a good head on
her shoulders, reads tons about dogs, always interested in learning,
volunteers at the shelter, etc. So, I trust her version of events. A
family she knows, that has 5 young kids, just adopted a 12 week old
puppy. Let's set aside the fact that the rescue quite possibly has no
idea what they're doing. He's supposed to be a GSD/Boxer mix. The
family chose him because he was quite mellow when they first met him,
and gave them no trouble when he was picked up, cradled in their arms,
etc.

She went to meet the puppy, first because it *is* a puppy and she is a
dog lover, but also because the family is having problems with the pup.
After her interactions with the puppy, she said she could totally see
why the kids are terrified of the pup. This puppy was described to me
as vicious. Apparently, the puppy growls, lunges, snaps, and on more
than one occasion has bitten. The puppy bit this girl. She said that
she was just sitting there, a good 10 ft. away from the pup, talking to
his owners and not paying any attention to the puppy, when he ran over,
growled at her, and went for her hand. She had teeny tiny puncture
wounds where he had got a hold of her. Apparently, this is not at all
unusual, he growls and lunges for no reason anyone can tell, and none of
what was described sounds like normal puppy nipping/overexcited play
type behavior to me.

As a first step I suggested that the pup get a pretty thorough medical
evaluation, have his vision, hearing, etc. checked out. If all is
normal, I said that they should get a behaviorist in ASAP if they have
any intentions of keeping this puppy. Considering that the family is
already afraid of the dog, it might be in everyone's best interest if
the pup was returned to the shelter, and these folks got an older, more
mellow dog. As far as I know, the pup was kept with his littermates
until these folks brought him home, but we don't know how long he stayed
with his mother.

Any thoughts on what is going on here?

Suja



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Old October 15th 03, 05:23 PM
M. Bliss
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From what I can interpret from your posting, it sounds like normal puppy
behaviour. This is enhanced with the excitement of many small children
because the puppy now feels he is one of 'them'.
A behaviourist may be able to help but I don't feel it is a 'problem' for a
Behaviourist - this puppy's new owners need 'Training'.
If they are already afreaid of the puppy then it can do more harm than good
to try and condition the puppy to them because of that fear factor.
I believe the pup would do better in a new home that has patience to train
and socialize the puppy - and is NOT fraid of him.
Heck - he's just a baby.
JMO


"Suja" wrote in message
...

There is a young lady who comes to the dog park with her rescue Husky.
I think she's a high school student, but appears to have a good head on
her shoulders, reads tons about dogs, always interested in learning,
volunteers at the shelter, etc. So, I trust her version of events. A
family she knows, that has 5 young kids, just adopted a 12 week old
puppy. Let's set aside the fact that the rescue quite possibly has no
idea what they're doing. He's supposed to be a GSD/Boxer mix. The
family chose him because he was quite mellow when they first met him,
and gave them no trouble when he was picked up, cradled in their arms,
etc.

She went to meet the puppy, first because it *is* a puppy and she is a
dog lover, but also because the family is having problems with the pup.
After her interactions with the puppy, she said she could totally see
why the kids are terrified of the pup. This puppy was described to me
as vicious. Apparently, the puppy growls, lunges, snaps, and on more
than one occasion has bitten. The puppy bit this girl. She said that
she was just sitting there, a good 10 ft. away from the pup, talking to
his owners and not paying any attention to the puppy, when he ran over,
growled at her, and went for her hand. She had teeny tiny puncture
wounds where he had got a hold of her. Apparently, this is not at all
unusual, he growls and lunges for no reason anyone can tell, and none of
what was described sounds like normal puppy nipping/overexcited play
type behavior to me.

As a first step I suggested that the pup get a pretty thorough medical
evaluation, have his vision, hearing, etc. checked out. If all is
normal, I said that they should get a behaviorist in ASAP if they have
any intentions of keeping this puppy. Considering that the family is
already afraid of the dog, it might be in everyone's best interest if
the pup was returned to the shelter, and these folks got an older, more
mellow dog. As far as I know, the pup was kept with his littermates
until these folks brought him home, but we don't know how long he stayed
with his mother.

Any thoughts on what is going on here?

Suja



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Old October 15th 03, 05:23 PM
M. Bliss
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From what I can interpret from your posting, it sounds like normal puppy
behaviour. This is enhanced with the excitement of many small children
because the puppy now feels he is one of 'them'.
A behaviourist may be able to help but I don't feel it is a 'problem' for a
Behaviourist - this puppy's new owners need 'Training'.
If they are already afreaid of the puppy then it can do more harm than good
to try and condition the puppy to them because of that fear factor.
I believe the pup would do better in a new home that has patience to train
and socialize the puppy - and is NOT fraid of him.
Heck - he's just a baby.
JMO


"Suja" wrote in message
...

There is a young lady who comes to the dog park with her rescue Husky.
I think she's a high school student, but appears to have a good head on
her shoulders, reads tons about dogs, always interested in learning,
volunteers at the shelter, etc. So, I trust her version of events. A
family she knows, that has 5 young kids, just adopted a 12 week old
puppy. Let's set aside the fact that the rescue quite possibly has no
idea what they're doing. He's supposed to be a GSD/Boxer mix. The
family chose him because he was quite mellow when they first met him,
and gave them no trouble when he was picked up, cradled in their arms,
etc.

She went to meet the puppy, first because it *is* a puppy and she is a
dog lover, but also because the family is having problems with the pup.
After her interactions with the puppy, she said she could totally see
why the kids are terrified of the pup. This puppy was described to me
as vicious. Apparently, the puppy growls, lunges, snaps, and on more
than one occasion has bitten. The puppy bit this girl. She said that
she was just sitting there, a good 10 ft. away from the pup, talking to
his owners and not paying any attention to the puppy, when he ran over,
growled at her, and went for her hand. She had teeny tiny puncture
wounds where he had got a hold of her. Apparently, this is not at all
unusual, he growls and lunges for no reason anyone can tell, and none of
what was described sounds like normal puppy nipping/overexcited play
type behavior to me.

As a first step I suggested that the pup get a pretty thorough medical
evaluation, have his vision, hearing, etc. checked out. If all is
normal, I said that they should get a behaviorist in ASAP if they have
any intentions of keeping this puppy. Considering that the family is
already afraid of the dog, it might be in everyone's best interest if
the pup was returned to the shelter, and these folks got an older, more
mellow dog. As far as I know, the pup was kept with his littermates
until these folks brought him home, but we don't know how long he stayed
with his mother.

Any thoughts on what is going on here?

Suja



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Old October 15th 03, 05:27 PM
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"Jokerpit" wrote in message
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so now your taking someone elses life?


i didn't read anything about Suja killing anyone...

Suja, are you keeping secrets?


-kelly


 




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