There isn't any correlation between
origin and accomplishment.
EmilyS
You said 'ahem'; I say 'amen'.
I met Leri while waiting for Hilde, the ancient GSD, to take her CGC.
"She won't pass!" I wailed. "Her 'stay' isn't good."
"Rehearse." Leri said. "Put her on 'stay'."
I did, and when Hilde bunched herself to rise, Leri hooked a finger
around her collar. After a couple of tries, Hilde gave up.
"It won't last," Leri said. "But it'll last through her test."
She was right on both counts.

(John F Richardson) wrote in message ...
Chris writes:

Don't see, though, how they could be better than some of the rescues
I've encountered.

They may or may not be
better trained than the best
rescue Pit Bulls. But it's
a slam dunk that their basic
temps aren't discernibly better
than the best rescue Pit Bulls.


Nor discernably WORSE, if they go through the same rigorous testing.
Stray pit bulls that don't meet those tests end up dead, so of course
the ones that survive the tests have sterling temperaments.

The determining factor is the testing, not the origin.

EmilyS

(John F Richardson) wrote in message ...
Chris writes:

Don't see, though, how they could be better than some of the rescues
I've encountered.

They may or may not be
better trained than the best
rescue Pit Bulls. But it's
a slam dunk that their basic
temps aren't discernibly better
than the best rescue Pit Bulls.


Nor discernably WORSE, if they go through the same rigorous testing.
Stray pit bulls that don't meet those tests end up dead, so of course
the ones that survive the tests have sterling temperaments.

The determining factor is the testing, not the origin.

EmilyS

(John F Richardson) wrote in message ...
Chris writes:

Don't see, though, how they could be better than some of the rescues
I've encountered.

They may or may not be
better trained than the best
rescue Pit Bulls. But it's
a slam dunk that their basic
temps aren't discernibly better
than the best rescue Pit Bulls.


Nor discernably WORSE, if they go through the same rigorous testing.
Stray pit bulls that don't meet those tests end up dead, so of course
the ones that survive the tests have sterling temperaments.

The determining factor is the testing, not the origin.

EmilyS

(John F Richardson) wrote in message ...
Chris writes:

Don't see, though, how they could be better than some of the rescues
I've encountered.

They may or may not be
better trained than the best
rescue Pit Bulls. But it's
a slam dunk that their basic
temps aren't discernibly better
than the best rescue Pit Bulls.


Nor discernably WORSE, if they go through the same rigorous testing.
Stray pit bulls that don't meet those tests end up dead, so of course
the ones that survive the tests have sterling temperaments.

The determining factor is the testing, not the origin.

EmilyS

EmilyS writes:

Stray pit bulls that don't meet
those tests end up dead, so of
course the ones that survive the
tests have sterling temperaments.

A lot of shelter Pit Bulls with
sterling temperaments end up
dead, too.

The determining factor is the
testing, not the origin.

The determining factor is the
dog, not the origin. Good dogs
are where you find them. And
you can find more than enough
good Pit Bulls in shelters to
blow away any breeder's
propaganda that suggests
you need to get a registered
dog to get good temperament.

JohnR
Pit Bull Libertarian

Never sneer at the power of a little
pink squeaky toy!

EmilyS writes:

Stray pit bulls that don't meet
those tests end up dead, so of
course the ones that survive the
tests have sterling temperaments.

A lot of shelter Pit Bulls with
sterling temperaments end up
dead, too.

The determining factor is the
testing, not the origin.

The determining factor is the
dog, not the origin. Good dogs
are where you find them. And
you can find more than enough
good Pit Bulls in shelters to
blow away any breeder's
propaganda that suggests
you need to get a registered
dog to get good temperament.

JohnR
Pit Bull Libertarian

Never sneer at the power of a little
pink squeaky toy!

EmilyS writes:

Stray pit bulls that don't meet
those tests end up dead, so of
course the ones that survive the
tests have sterling temperaments.

A lot of shelter Pit Bulls with
sterling temperaments end up
dead, too.

The determining factor is the
testing, not the origin.

The determining factor is the
dog, not the origin. Good dogs
are where you find them. And
you can find more than enough
good Pit Bulls in shelters to
blow away any breeder's
propaganda that suggests
you need to get a registered
dog to get good temperament.

JohnR
Pit Bull Libertarian

Never sneer at the power of a little
pink squeaky toy!

EmilyS writes:

Stray pit bulls that don't meet
those tests end up dead, so of
course the ones that survive the
tests have sterling temperaments.

A lot of shelter Pit Bulls with
sterling temperaments end up
dead, too.

The determining factor is the
testing, not the origin.

The determining factor is the
dog, not the origin. Good dogs
are where you find them. And
you can find more than enough
good Pit Bulls in shelters to
blow away any breeder's
propaganda that suggests
you need to get a registered
dog to get good temperament.

JohnR
Pit Bull Libertarian

Never sneer at the power of a little
pink squeaky toy!