thank you
"MHF" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...
About a year or so after I adopted my dog Laddy (at 2 years) he had a
seizure. We were totally freaked. He was about 3 or 4 years old. His
previous owner had never seen him have a seizure. Turns out that he had
epilepsy. His epilepsy is very mild, he has 2-3 seizures a year (that we
know of) and our vet recommended to keep him off medication until his
seizures became more frequent. Well now he's 11 years old, is still off
meds and still has 2-4 seizures a year. He's a happy and healthy 11 year
old
other than the usually aging doggy stuff. He also really cute!!


"Tony Dentino ( Ranger and Katie Rule )" wrote in
message ...
Yesterday out of the blue my 4 year old GPS has a seizure. It was
horriable.
I thought he was going to die in my arms. When he recovered I took him
to
my
vet. She found him in good health. Bloodwork will be completed by
Monday.
Can anyone give me some insight and hope? Im so depressed over this
because
of the love I have for him.. Thanks-Tony Dentino Rochester NY

--
Ranger and Katie are # 1

thank you
"MHF" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...
About a year or so after I adopted my dog Laddy (at 2 years) he had a
seizure. We were totally freaked. He was about 3 or 4 years old. His
previous owner had never seen him have a seizure. Turns out that he had
epilepsy. His epilepsy is very mild, he has 2-3 seizures a year (that we
know of) and our vet recommended to keep him off medication until his
seizures became more frequent. Well now he's 11 years old, is still off
meds and still has 2-4 seizures a year. He's a happy and healthy 11 year
old
other than the usually aging doggy stuff. He also really cute!!


"Tony Dentino ( Ranger and Katie Rule )" wrote in
message ...
Yesterday out of the blue my 4 year old GPS has a seizure. It was
horriable.
I thought he was going to die in my arms. When he recovered I took him
to
my
vet. She found him in good health. Bloodwork will be completed by
Monday.
Can anyone give me some insight and hope? Im so depressed over this
because
of the love I have for him.. Thanks-Tony Dentino Rochester NY

--
Ranger and Katie are # 1

There does not need to be any pattern for epilepsy.

Falling off the table was likely part of the seizure.

Please keep a close eye on him, and be willing to believe he has epilepsy.
There is no point in denying it, and the possibility for an animal to go
from an occasional seizure to status epilepticus--a fatal condition in which
they repeatedly seize without fully recovering between seizures--with no
warning is ever present.

Years ago I lost a cat due to a lousy vet who didn't treat his seizures, who
took the "wait and see" approach. The poor baby went into status and
couldn't be saved.



"crosem" wrote in message
m...
My dog, an English cocker spaniel, had a horrid grand mal seizure 10 days
after I got him, a year ago this weekend...I, too, thought he was going to
die, he was flinging himself around the room, I had never seen anything
like
it. I took him to the emergency vet and NO cause could be determined.
Eventually, after reading everything I could, I determined the seizure was
caused by the heat (Austin, TX). I had been told he "loved" air
conditioning. So, now I do not take him for his longer walks when I get
home from work, just 90 seconds for a wee wee, and take his longer walks
early in the morning and late at night.
He had two petit mal seizures at the vet office about 3 months ago...I
figured out that the long wait in the waiting room, falling off the table
and making a one-point landing on his chin and his nerves over being
there
caused these.
He does NOT have epilepsy, and I have taken steps to make sure NONE of
these
variables occurs for him again...we will be seen immediately at the vet,
no
waiting...he will be helped down from the table by the staff and held by
staff firmly on the table at all times...he will have water available to
him
at all times at the vet, etc.
I fully expect these incidents are freestanding and over...
and I hope for a simple resolution for you, too.

There has to be a pattern of seizures for it to be epilepsy, and epilepsy
is
a diagnosis of last resort, when all other potential causes have been
ruled
out.

But, man, is it scary.
"Tony Dentino ( Ranger and Katie Rule )" wrote in
message ...
| thank you ya his name is ranger he is a gsp.what about diet. he eats
purina
| one but i also cook up liver chicken rice etc.
| "Rocky" wrote in message
| news:Xns93D98948F2375australianshepherdca@IP...
| Tony Dentino ( Ranger and Katie Rule ) said in
| rec.pets.dogs.health:
|
| Yesterday out of the blue my 4 year old GPS has a seizure.
| It was horriable. I thought he was going to die in my arms.
| When he recovered I took him to my vet. She found him in
| good health. Bloodwork will be completed by Monday. Can
| anyone give me some insight and hope?
|
| I've been where you are now.
|
| The first time that Rocky had an epileptic seizure, I thought he
| was choking on something, I thought he was going to die.
|
| Three years later, he and I are fine. Through medication and
| diet, he's gone from having 2 seizures back to back every 3
| weeks to not having a seizure for an entire year. Throughout
| this, I continued to compete with Rocky in agility, and he's
| done well.
|
| Back to your dog - did you mean GSP as opposed to GPS? It
| doesn't really matter. What's his name?
|
| The first thing your vet should check for in the blood screen is
| a toxin. After that are the more expensive MRIs and CT scans to
| check for brain tumors. I didn't do this with Rocky because 2
| of his littermates had had seizures, so Rocky had obviously
| inherited epilepsy. Idiopathic/genetic epilepsy usually shows
| itself before the age of 4, though, so I'm hoping that your
| dog's seizures was a one time occurence.
|
| Epilepsy is a managable affliction. Good luck, and feel free to
| contact me here or privately. Meanwhile, I have some links on
| my website that are informative, the email lists are an
| especially good place to learn (scroll down to dog health):
| http://www.rocky-dog.com/Links/LinksMenu.html
|
| --
| --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
|
|

There does not need to be any pattern for epilepsy.

Falling off the table was likely part of the seizure.

Please keep a close eye on him, and be willing to believe he has epilepsy.
There is no point in denying it, and the possibility for an animal to go
from an occasional seizure to status epilepticus--a fatal condition in which
they repeatedly seize without fully recovering between seizures--with no
warning is ever present.

Years ago I lost a cat due to a lousy vet who didn't treat his seizures, who
took the "wait and see" approach. The poor baby went into status and
couldn't be saved.



"crosem" wrote in message
m...
My dog, an English cocker spaniel, had a horrid grand mal seizure 10 days
after I got him, a year ago this weekend...I, too, thought he was going to
die, he was flinging himself around the room, I had never seen anything
like
it. I took him to the emergency vet and NO cause could be determined.
Eventually, after reading everything I could, I determined the seizure was
caused by the heat (Austin, TX). I had been told he "loved" air
conditioning. So, now I do not take him for his longer walks when I get
home from work, just 90 seconds for a wee wee, and take his longer walks
early in the morning and late at night.
He had two petit mal seizures at the vet office about 3 months ago...I
figured out that the long wait in the waiting room, falling off the table
and making a one-point landing on his chin and his nerves over being
there
caused these.
He does NOT have epilepsy, and I have taken steps to make sure NONE of
these
variables occurs for him again...we will be seen immediately at the vet,
no
waiting...he will be helped down from the table by the staff and held by
staff firmly on the table at all times...he will have water available to
him
at all times at the vet, etc.
I fully expect these incidents are freestanding and over...
and I hope for a simple resolution for you, too.

There has to be a pattern of seizures for it to be epilepsy, and epilepsy
is
a diagnosis of last resort, when all other potential causes have been
ruled
out.

But, man, is it scary.
"Tony Dentino ( Ranger and Katie Rule )" wrote in
message ...
| thank you ya his name is ranger he is a gsp.what about diet. he eats
purina
| one but i also cook up liver chicken rice etc.
| "Rocky" wrote in message
| news:Xns93D98948F2375australianshepherdca@IP...
| Tony Dentino ( Ranger and Katie Rule ) said in
| rec.pets.dogs.health:
|
| Yesterday out of the blue my 4 year old GPS has a seizure.
| It was horriable. I thought he was going to die in my arms.
| When he recovered I took him to my vet. She found him in
| good health. Bloodwork will be completed by Monday. Can
| anyone give me some insight and hope?
|
| I've been where you are now.
|
| The first time that Rocky had an epileptic seizure, I thought he
| was choking on something, I thought he was going to die.
|
| Three years later, he and I are fine. Through medication and
| diet, he's gone from having 2 seizures back to back every 3
| weeks to not having a seizure for an entire year. Throughout
| this, I continued to compete with Rocky in agility, and he's
| done well.
|
| Back to your dog - did you mean GSP as opposed to GPS? It
| doesn't really matter. What's his name?
|
| The first thing your vet should check for in the blood screen is
| a toxin. After that are the more expensive MRIs and CT scans to
| check for brain tumors. I didn't do this with Rocky because 2
| of his littermates had had seizures, so Rocky had obviously
| inherited epilepsy. Idiopathic/genetic epilepsy usually shows
| itself before the age of 4, though, so I'm hoping that your
| dog's seizures was a one time occurence.
|
| Epilepsy is a managable affliction. Good luck, and feel free to
| contact me here or privately. Meanwhile, I have some links on
| my website that are informative, the email lists are an
| especially good place to learn (scroll down to dog health):
| http://www.rocky-dog.com/Links/LinksMenu.html
|
| --
| --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
|
|

My 2 1/2 year old shepherd/Husky mix Jake had a seizure just this Friday
past. It was earlier in the morning and he was sleeping at the foot of the
bed as he usually does. I awoke to the sound of something hitting the floor
and I immediately suspected that it was one of my 2 dogs that had fallen off
of the bed. the bed is about 2 feet from the floor to the mattress top

When I got up to check, Jake was on his side, head facing away from the bed,
both front legs paddling away, his lips were stretched back showing his
teeth as if her were panting frantically or stressed, foaming at the mouth.
His back legs were kind of pulled up to his stomach. I had never seen this
before EVER and i pet him and patted his back above his tail, trying to snap
him out of it. Not hard just enough to shake him a bit. This went on for
about 2-3 minutes. When the seizure finally stopped, he lept to his feet and
turned and faced me. He snarled angrily at me, his neck fur standing
straight up, back arched and he let out a pretty scary bark. My son said he
that the sharp bark scared him and he was downstairs. The room was somewhat
well lit but it looked like his pupils were full out wide open. his growl
and snarl lasted for for about 30 seconds. He then turned around and walked
out of the room where I had a chance to close him into another room for a
few minutes. he was a little disoriented and still foaming at the mouth.
After about 5 minutes alone in the room, i peeked in and talked softly to
him, coaxing him out and outside to ther back yard which is fenced.

He seemed a l lot more relaxed and very timid, alomost sooking for growling
at me.

Jake is a very loving, affection hungry dog. He is alos the bottom dog in
this house as me older 3 year old pup is dominant. He is great with kids,
the smaller the better. Its almost like he dotes on them when they are
around.


Has anyone ever experienced a Jeckyl and Hyde reaction like this after a dog
has had a seizure? I'm a little concerned as the vet i spoke to on the phone
made no mention of it. I also suspect he heard the distress in my voice and
was talking me in to coming in for a battery of test for Jake. That
conversation might be the topic of another posting.

Thanks

Rick
..
"crosem" wrote in message
m...
My dog, an English cocker spaniel, had a horrid grand mal seizure 10 days
after I got him, a year ago this weekend...I, too, thought he was going to
die, he was flinging himself around the room, I had never seen anything
like
it. I took him to the emergency vet and NO cause could be determined.
Eventually, after reading everything I could, I determined the seizure was
caused by the heat (Austin, TX). I had been told he "loved" air
conditioning. So, now I do not take him for his longer walks when I get
home from work, just 90 seconds for a wee wee, and take his longer walks
early in the morning and late at night.
He had two petit mal seizures at the vet office about 3 months ago...I
figured out that the long wait in the waiting room, falling off the table
and making a one-point landing on his chin and his nerves over being
there
caused these.
He does NOT have epilepsy, and I have taken steps to make sure NONE of
these
variables occurs for him again...we will be seen immediately at the vet,
no
waiting...he will be helped down from the table by the staff and held by
staff firmly on the table at all times...he will have water available to
him
at all times at the vet, etc.
I fully expect these incidents are freestanding and over...
and I hope for a simple resolution for you, too.

There has to be a pattern of seizures for it to be epilepsy, and epilepsy
is
a diagnosis of last resort, when all other potential causes have been
ruled
out.

But, man, is it scary.
"Tony Dentino ( Ranger and Katie Rule )" wrote in
message ...
| thank you ya his name is ranger he is a gsp.what about diet. he eats
purina
| one but i also cook up liver chicken rice etc.
| "Rocky" wrote in message
| news:Xns93D98948F2375australianshepherdca@IP...
| Tony Dentino ( Ranger and Katie Rule ) said in
| rec.pets.dogs.health:
|
| Yesterday out of the blue my 4 year old GPS has a seizure.
| It was horriable. I thought he was going to die in my arms.
| When he recovered I took him to my vet. She found him in
| good health. Bloodwork will be completed by Monday. Can
| anyone give me some insight and hope?
|
| I've been where you are now.
|
| The first time that Rocky had an epileptic seizure, I thought he
| was choking on something, I thought he was going to die.
|
| Three years later, he and I are fine. Through medication and
| diet, he's gone from having 2 seizures back to back every 3
| weeks to not having a seizure for an entire year. Throughout
| this, I continued to compete with Rocky in agility, and he's
| done well.
|
| Back to your dog - did you mean GSP as opposed to GPS? It
| doesn't really matter. What's his name?
|
| The first thing your vet should check for in the blood screen is
| a toxin. After that are the more expensive MRIs and CT scans to
| check for brain tumors. I didn't do this with Rocky because 2
| of his littermates had had seizures, so Rocky had obviously
| inherited epilepsy. Idiopathic/genetic epilepsy usually shows
| itself before the age of 4, though, so I'm hoping that your
| dog's seizures was a one time occurence.
|
| Epilepsy is a managable affliction. Good luck, and feel free to
| contact me here or privately. Meanwhile, I have some links on
| my website that are informative, the email lists are an
| especially good place to learn (scroll down to dog health):
| http://www.rocky-dog.com/Links/LinksMenu.html
|
| --
| --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
|
|




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My 2 1/2 year old shepherd/Husky mix Jake had a seizure just this Friday
past. It was earlier in the morning and he was sleeping at the foot of the
bed as he usually does. I awoke to the sound of something hitting the floor
and I immediately suspected that it was one of my 2 dogs that had fallen off
of the bed. the bed is about 2 feet from the floor to the mattress top

When I got up to check, Jake was on his side, head facing away from the bed,
both front legs paddling away, his lips were stretched back showing his
teeth as if her were panting frantically or stressed, foaming at the mouth.
His back legs were kind of pulled up to his stomach. I had never seen this
before EVER and i pet him and patted his back above his tail, trying to snap
him out of it. Not hard just enough to shake him a bit. This went on for
about 2-3 minutes. When the seizure finally stopped, he lept to his feet and
turned and faced me. He snarled angrily at me, his neck fur standing
straight up, back arched and he let out a pretty scary bark. My son said he
that the sharp bark scared him and he was downstairs. The room was somewhat
well lit but it looked like his pupils were full out wide open. his growl
and snarl lasted for for about 30 seconds. He then turned around and walked
out of the room where I had a chance to close him into another room for a
few minutes. he was a little disoriented and still foaming at the mouth.
After about 5 minutes alone in the room, i peeked in and talked softly to
him, coaxing him out and outside to ther back yard which is fenced.

He seemed a l lot more relaxed and very timid, alomost sooking for growling
at me.

Jake is a very loving, affection hungry dog. He is alos the bottom dog in
this house as me older 3 year old pup is dominant. He is great with kids,
the smaller the better. Its almost like he dotes on them when they are
around.


Has anyone ever experienced a Jeckyl and Hyde reaction like this after a dog
has had a seizure? I'm a little concerned as the vet i spoke to on the phone
made no mention of it. I also suspect he heard the distress in my voice and
was talking me in to coming in for a battery of test for Jake. That
conversation might be the topic of another posting.

Thanks

Rick
..
"crosem" wrote in message
m...
My dog, an English cocker spaniel, had a horrid grand mal seizure 10 days
after I got him, a year ago this weekend...I, too, thought he was going to
die, he was flinging himself around the room, I had never seen anything
like
it. I took him to the emergency vet and NO cause could be determined.
Eventually, after reading everything I could, I determined the seizure was
caused by the heat (Austin, TX). I had been told he "loved" air
conditioning. So, now I do not take him for his longer walks when I get
home from work, just 90 seconds for a wee wee, and take his longer walks
early in the morning and late at night.
He had two petit mal seizures at the vet office about 3 months ago...I
figured out that the long wait in the waiting room, falling off the table
and making a one-point landing on his chin and his nerves over being
there
caused these.
He does NOT have epilepsy, and I have taken steps to make sure NONE of
these
variables occurs for him again...we will be seen immediately at the vet,
no
waiting...he will be helped down from the table by the staff and held by
staff firmly on the table at all times...he will have water available to
him
at all times at the vet, etc.
I fully expect these incidents are freestanding and over...
and I hope for a simple resolution for you, too.

There has to be a pattern of seizures for it to be epilepsy, and epilepsy
is
a diagnosis of last resort, when all other potential causes have been
ruled
out.

But, man, is it scary.
"Tony Dentino ( Ranger and Katie Rule )" wrote in
message ...
| thank you ya his name is ranger he is a gsp.what about diet. he eats
purina
| one but i also cook up liver chicken rice etc.
| "Rocky" wrote in message
| news:Xns93D98948F2375australianshepherdca@IP...
| Tony Dentino ( Ranger and Katie Rule ) said in
| rec.pets.dogs.health:
|
| Yesterday out of the blue my 4 year old GPS has a seizure.
| It was horriable. I thought he was going to die in my arms.
| When he recovered I took him to my vet. She found him in
| good health. Bloodwork will be completed by Monday. Can
| anyone give me some insight and hope?
|
| I've been where you are now.
|
| The first time that Rocky had an epileptic seizure, I thought he
| was choking on something, I thought he was going to die.
|
| Three years later, he and I are fine. Through medication and
| diet, he's gone from having 2 seizures back to back every 3
| weeks to not having a seizure for an entire year. Throughout
| this, I continued to compete with Rocky in agility, and he's
| done well.
|
| Back to your dog - did you mean GSP as opposed to GPS? It
| doesn't really matter. What's his name?
|
| The first thing your vet should check for in the blood screen is
| a toxin. After that are the more expensive MRIs and CT scans to
| check for brain tumors. I didn't do this with Rocky because 2
| of his littermates had had seizures, so Rocky had obviously
| inherited epilepsy. Idiopathic/genetic epilepsy usually shows
| itself before the age of 4, though, so I'm hoping that your
| dog's seizures was a one time occurence.
|
| Epilepsy is a managable affliction. Good luck, and feel free to
| contact me here or privately. Meanwhile, I have some links on
| my website that are informative, the email lists are an
| especially good place to learn (scroll down to dog health):
| http://www.rocky-dog.com/Links/LinksMenu.html
|
| --
| --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
|
|




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Rick A said in rec.pets.dogs.health:

Has anyone ever experienced a Jeckyl and Hyde reaction like
this after a dog has had a seizure?

Yes. This happened the first time that Rocky had a seizure -
when he came out of it, he spent the next few minutes backed
into a corner, barking fiercely at me.

At the time, I had no idea what was going on - at the time, I
thought he was choking, not having an epileptic seizure.
Anyway, what works for us now is for me to rub his chest and
talk softly to him throughout the seizure. He seems to be less
disoriented afterwards, even though he's usually blind for a few
minutes.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

Rick A said in rec.pets.dogs.health:

Has anyone ever experienced a Jeckyl and Hyde reaction like
this after a dog has had a seizure?

Yes. This happened the first time that Rocky had a seizure -
when he came out of it, he spent the next few minutes backed
into a corner, barking fiercely at me.

At the time, I had no idea what was going on - at the time, I
thought he was choking, not having an epileptic seizure.
Anyway, what works for us now is for me to rub his chest and
talk softly to him throughout the seizure. He seems to be less
disoriented afterwards, even though he's usually blind for a few
minutes.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.