several weeks ago, my 1 y/o male pit/lab mix, Manu, came down with
frequent, very liquid stool. my vet determined this to be caused by the
bacteria, clostridium. he prescribed amoxicillin and a smooth muscle
relaxant, which seemed to work. near the end of his treatment, my 1 y/o
female APBT, Lola, came down with similar symptoms, and was treated with the
same medications. this treatment also seemed to work well. about a week
after Lola's treatment ended, Manu came down with it again, and was treated
with the same medications. he's about a week into his treatment, and once
again, Lola has diarrhea and mild vomiting.

my concern is this, are they passing this back and forth between them? is
there anything we can do to help this? we've cleaned their bedding
thoroughly, sanitized their food and water dishes, and are bathing them both
regularly. what can we do to stop this cycle? i'm concerned that my vet
keeps prescribing amoxicillin. is it possible the bacteria are becoming
resistant to it?

the other question is, today, Lola's diarrhea looked milky, almost like a
very thin custard in it's color and consistency. i've never seen stool look
like this before. does anyone know what could cause it? we have another
vet appt this afternoon.

They both eat California Natural Chicken and Rice, and Lola's is
supplemented with Salmon Oil for her skin.

thanks,
-kelly

Subject: clostridium
From: "culprit"
Date: 8/21/03 10:28 AM Pacific

i'm concerned that my vet
keeps prescribing amoxicillin. is it possible the bacteria are becoming
resistant to it?

Could be according to what I just read here.

http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/vme/cagl/Projects.htm

Also noticed that probiotics should be given to help the gut recover. Here is
another blurb about treatment other than the Amoxy your vet is using.

http://www.petsvetsandyou.com/pcl/ar.../q10000053.htm

Sounds like it could take a long time, but if your babies are continuing with
this cycle I could think another med is appropriate.



Deb
Shi the Svelte
Georgie, Scurry-Stalker & Baby Lover
Hank the Tank

Subject: clostridium
From: "culprit"
Date: 8/21/03 10:28 AM Pacific

i'm concerned that my vet
keeps prescribing amoxicillin. is it possible the bacteria are becoming
resistant to it?

Could be according to what I just read here.

http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/vme/cagl/Projects.htm

Also noticed that probiotics should be given to help the gut recover. Here is
another blurb about treatment other than the Amoxy your vet is using.

http://www.petsvetsandyou.com/pcl/ar.../q10000053.htm

Sounds like it could take a long time, but if your babies are continuing with
this cycle I could think another med is appropriate.



Deb
Shi the Svelte
Georgie, Scurry-Stalker & Baby Lover
Hank the Tank

"culprit" wrote in message
...
several weeks ago, my 1 y/o male pit/lab mix, Manu, came down with
frequent, very liquid stool. my vet determined this to be caused by the
bacteria, clostridium. he prescribed amoxicillin and a smooth muscle
relaxant, which seemed to work.

I don't know what this is, but I'm interested, because Orson has regular
bouts of diarrhea.

Do you know what purpose the muscle relaxer was for? We've never been given
that for his runs.

does anyone know what could cause it? we have another
vet appt this afternoon.

Good luck!

Cate

"culprit" wrote in message
...
several weeks ago, my 1 y/o male pit/lab mix, Manu, came down with
frequent, very liquid stool. my vet determined this to be caused by the
bacteria, clostridium. he prescribed amoxicillin and a smooth muscle
relaxant, which seemed to work.

I don't know what this is, but I'm interested, because Orson has regular
bouts of diarrhea.

Do you know what purpose the muscle relaxer was for? We've never been given
that for his runs.

does anyone know what could cause it? we have another
vet appt this afternoon.

Good luck!

Cate

Did the vet do a culture on the feces? Just wondering how the vet came to
the diagnosis.


"culprit" wrote in message
...
several weeks ago, my 1 y/o male pit/lab mix, Manu, came down with
frequent, very liquid stool. my vet determined this to be caused by the
bacteria, clostridium. he prescribed amoxicillin and a smooth muscle
relaxant, which seemed to work. near the end of his treatment, my 1 y/o
female APBT, Lola, came down with similar symptoms, and was treated with
the
same medications. this treatment also seemed to work well. about a week
after Lola's treatment ended, Manu came down with it again, and was
treated
with the same medications. he's about a week into his treatment, and once
again, Lola has diarrhea and mild vomiting.

my concern is this, are they passing this back and forth between them?
is
there anything we can do to help this? we've cleaned their bedding
thoroughly, sanitized their food and water dishes, and are bathing them
both
regularly. what can we do to stop this cycle? i'm concerned that my vet
keeps prescribing amoxicillin. is it possible the bacteria are becoming
resistant to it?

the other question is, today, Lola's diarrhea looked milky, almost like a
very thin custard in it's color and consistency. i've never seen stool
look
like this before. does anyone know what could cause it? we have another
vet appt this afternoon.

They both eat California Natural Chicken and Rice, and Lola's is
supplemented with Salmon Oil for her skin.

thanks,
-kelly

Did the vet do a culture on the feces? Just wondering how the vet came to
the diagnosis.


"culprit" wrote in message
...
several weeks ago, my 1 y/o male pit/lab mix, Manu, came down with
frequent, very liquid stool. my vet determined this to be caused by the
bacteria, clostridium. he prescribed amoxicillin and a smooth muscle
relaxant, which seemed to work. near the end of his treatment, my 1 y/o
female APBT, Lola, came down with similar symptoms, and was treated with
the
same medications. this treatment also seemed to work well. about a week
after Lola's treatment ended, Manu came down with it again, and was
treated
with the same medications. he's about a week into his treatment, and once
again, Lola has diarrhea and mild vomiting.

my concern is this, are they passing this back and forth between them?
is
there anything we can do to help this? we've cleaned their bedding
thoroughly, sanitized their food and water dishes, and are bathing them
both
regularly. what can we do to stop this cycle? i'm concerned that my vet
keeps prescribing amoxicillin. is it possible the bacteria are becoming
resistant to it?

the other question is, today, Lola's diarrhea looked milky, almost like a
very thin custard in it's color and consistency. i've never seen stool
look
like this before. does anyone know what could cause it? we have another
vet appt this afternoon.

They both eat California Natural Chicken and Rice, and Lola's is
supplemented with Salmon Oil for her skin.

thanks,
-kelly

culprit wrote:

as an update, she seems to be leaking a pus-like discharge from her rectum.
it's pretty gross, and it really has me worried. if anyone has seen this
before, please let me know what you think it might be.

YIKES!! Poor girl. Can you call the vet to give an update and see if
they can move you up? In the meantime, here is some info just so you
know about all the other possibilities:

http://www.cm-d.com/buckeye/tech_manual/8_39.html
http://www.joebattsarm.com/labradornet/diarrhea.html (a checklist, might
be handy)

Make sure they stay well hydrated, and hope you get this under control
soon.

Suja

culprit wrote:

as an update, she seems to be leaking a pus-like discharge from her rectum.
it's pretty gross, and it really has me worried. if anyone has seen this
before, please let me know what you think it might be.

YIKES!! Poor girl. Can you call the vet to give an update and see if
they can move you up? In the meantime, here is some info just so you
know about all the other possibilities:

http://www.cm-d.com/buckeye/tech_manual/8_39.html
http://www.joebattsarm.com/labradornet/diarrhea.html (a checklist, might
be handy)

Make sure they stay well hydrated, and hope you get this under control
soon.

Suja

"Cate" wrote in message
...

Do you know what purpose the muscle relaxer was for? We've never been
given
that for his runs.

it's supposed to slow down the movement of the intestines. it's called
Loperamide, and it's in Immodium, i think. it doesn't seem to make her
tired or anything, i think it only affects the digestive tract muscles.

-kelly