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Pancreatitis

SteveB — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 05:12:47 GMT

How sensitive of a thing is this with dogs?

I have a Pembroke Welsh Corgi. He's a narly little ****, but I love him.
Since I found out from the vet that us sharing a pound of cooked bacon
wasn't good for him, I cut it out. But my wife just has to add bacon and
drippings and all sorts of things to win favor with the dogs or get them to
eat their food.

I can tell he has episodes with not feeling good, and just aging. I keep
telling her, but she keeps sneaking around me. Then complains because I put
too much canned food into their meals, which is Pedigree canned and kibble.

I don't want to get anal or expensive about feeding them.

What's the alternatives?

Steve

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Re: Working dog diets

chardonnay9 — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:07:37 GMT

Thanks for posting background on this person. Helps if you know what you
are really dealing with.

Delusional_Dimensions_Recovery_DDR wrote:
> HOWEDY sharon aka sharon too veterinary malpractice office
> manager, mrs. veterinary malpracticioner, liar, dog abusing
> punk thug coward and active acute chronic long term incurable
> mental case and professional veterinary client obsfucationist,
>
> "Sharon Too" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> "chardonnay9" wrote:
>>
>>> And why would I trust a post from an animal abuser?
>> People like you are dangerous as you spout your version
>> as God's divine truth because you say so and anybody who disagrees is an
>> 'animal abuser'.
>
> Oh, you mean, LIKE THIS?:
>
> "Sharon Too" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> Several years ago my now 9 year old cocker spaniel was prescribed Metacam
>>> for minor arthritis . Metacam is apparently the drug of choice by vets
>>> for this condition.
>> Be careful about speaking for the whole profession.
>
> INDEEDY. NOT ALL veterinarians are lyin animal
> murderin frauds an scumbags like yourself, sharon.
>
> It's kindly of you to defend them~!
>
>> Metacam is NOT the drug of choice for all vets.
>
> RIGHT. Of curse not.
>
> You make more money and other perks off of Rimadyl:
>
> From: Pluffmud97 -
>
> Date: Sat, Apr 4 1998 12:00 am
> Email: (Pluffmud97)
>
> I sincerely hope your dog will survive. This drug
> has been on the market for over a year now - the
> Pfizer Co. that makes this drug has been allowing the
> deaths of hundreds of dogs to occur because they will
> not make public the many serious and deadly side effects.
>
> The drug was never tested properly - it was not tested
> long enough - the dosage prescribed in the U.S. is higher
> than that prescribed in England where Rimadyl has been
> used for a much longer time.
>
> There are many people who have owned older dogs and put
> them on Rimadyl as a last resort to help ease the pain
> of arthritis. When the poor dog dies, does the owner
> question the use of Rimadyl?
>
> Probably not. They just think their dog died of old age.
>
> Pfizer does not care - they care about the money they make
> from the drug! Vets don't care - they care about keeping
> the drug manufacturers happy and looking out for each other.
>
> The drug reps don't care - they tell the vets what the
> vets want to hear so the vets will buy the drugs that
> they sell at an incredible markup
>
> Only the dogs suffer - if your dog is on Rimadyl you had
> better make your vet do blood workups, etc. - or your dog
> may join the other poor animals who have suffered liver
> problems, severe hemorrhaging, perforate ulcers and god
> knows what other effects from this drug.
>
> ========
>
>>> Bigger profit margin than on aspirin!!!.
>> I'm sorry about your situation, but please don't jump into the
>> "vets-are-in-it-for-the-money" bandwagon.
>
> RIGHT~!
>
> Subject: torn ACL
>
> HOWEDY sharon aka sharon too veterinary malpractice office
> manager, mrs. veterinary malpracticioner, liar, dog abusing
> punk thug coward and active acute chronic long term incurable
> mental case and professional veterinary client obsfucationist,
>
> Sharon wrote:
>>> AH! My 2 year old pit tore his ACL yesterday. my vet said i should visit
>>> an orthopedic specialist for surgery,
>
> Yeah. They're as thick as thieves, eh sharon aka sharon too,
> veterinary malpractice office manager and mrs. veterinary
> malpracticioner and veterinary malpractice apologist /
> obsfucationist <{) ; ~ ) >
>
>>> and i have been researching, and there are some other options. the vet
>>> also gave me Rimadyl for anitinflamatory and pain.. but have been
>>> reading about the bad side effects of this drug and am considering
>>> taking him off of it. any help or advice??
>
> BWEEEAHAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!!
>
>>> has anyone else experienced a dog with a torn ACL before?
>
> Yeah. Many of the dog lovers here abHOWETS got the same problem.
>
>>> please let me know, thank you, Kelly.. and Jake.
>
> Torn ACLs are CAUSED BY STRESS from MISHANDLING
> and GARBAGE commercial dog food <{}: ~ ( >
>
>> Torn ACLs don't heal on their own
>
> Sez YOU. Below you'll find FIVE CASE HISTORIES stating
> EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of what you sez.
>
> You're in the BUSINESS of misleadin veterinary clients to
> increase profits through unnecessary inapupriate dangerHOWES
> surgical mutilations and pharmacutical company scam drugs
> which comprise 50% of your unethickal profits.
>
> You sound sincere and caring but you AIN'T NUTHIN but a
> goddamened liar, fraud, thief, animal abuser and murderer
> and professional apologist. THAT'S HOWE COME you manage
> your veterinry malpracticioner husband's veterinary malpractice.
>
>> and the longer you wait, the more the dog will start over relying on the
>> other leg and put it at risk for joint disease
>
> That's sheer idiocy. HOWE COME we don't see the same
> "phenomenon" in three legged dogs, sharon aka sharon
> too, veterinary malpractice apologist / obsfucationinst?
>
> YOU'RE A LIAR.
>
> ACL DIS-EASE is the #1 surgical mutilation in the USA after
> unnecessary inapupriate surgical sexual mutilations. The ACL
> tear / rupture is an EMOTIONAL STRESS INDUCED AUTO-
> IMMUNE DIS-EASE CAUSED BY your veterinary malpractice
> and "traditional" training and handling as recommended by your
> veterinary malpractice.
>
>> and possibly another torn ACL.
>
> IN MOST CASES the other leg FAILS for the SAME REASON
> the first leg failed. Dogs are NATURAL ATHLETES sharon
> too, veterinary malpractice office manager and veterinary
> malpractice apologist and mrs. veterinary malpracticioner.
>
> THERE AIN'T NO REASON HOWE COME a dog engaging
> in normal activities should become CRIPPLED OTHER THAN
> IATROGENIC ASSAULT including garbage commercial diets
> recommended by the client's veterinary malpracticioner.
>
>> As for the Rimadyl,
>
> "Also, these Vets receive perks from the drug manufacturer
> Pfizer when they buy Rimadyl to sell to animal owners. Vets
> could get points from Pfizer for each Rimadyl purchase they
> made; points were redeemable for PalmPilots, Zip Drives, and
> other equiptment!"
>
> Date: Mar 14 2000
>
> Since Rimadyl's 1997 launch, the FDA has received reports of
> about 1,000 dogs that died or were put to sleep and 7,000 more
> that had bad reactions after taking the drug, records and official
> estimates indicate.
>
> The FDA says such events are significantly underreported.
>
> -----------
>
> From: The Annals Of Animal Behavior
> Forensic Sciences Research
>
> Subject: Rimadyl poisoning--again
>
> From: Jaimie
> Date: Wed, Apr 1 1998 12:00 am
> Email: (Jaimie)
>
> My 9 year old female Samoyed was put on the poison
> Rimadyl for about 2 weeks for arthritic knee. I read
> posts to this group discussing the horrors of the drug.
>
> She was in such pain, I decided to give her a few more
> dosages. I should have listened to you wise posters.
>
> For three days my dog had weird yellow urine and yesterday
> and today wouldn't eat. I took her to the vet and found out
> she now has liver damage and will be in the hospital for as
> long as it takes to reverse the damage--IF they are able to.
>
> Cady, our Sammy, was a pretty healthy dog until the Rimadyl.
>
> Now she's on the critical list. The makers of Rimadyl should
> be put out of business. They are marketing poison and should
> be forced to take it themselves.
>
> Jaimie
>
> --------------
>
> From: LuSwinton
> Date: Wed, Apr 1 1998 12:00 am
> Email: (LuSwinton)
>
> Jamie: I know what you are going through - I have been there!
>
> His name was George - he was on Rimadyl less than
> 30 days before his collapse and subsequent death.
>
> Make up your own minds about this drug. I would
> never use it for any of my animals again, ever!
>
> Please let me know how you dog is doing ! I pray he does
> not die like my dog (a chocolate lab, named George) did.
>
> I am praying for the safe recovery of your dog.
>
> Most Sincerely,
>
> Jean Townsend
> Johns Island, SC
>
> ------------
>
> From: coloredhead
> Date: Sun, Apr 5 1998
>
> There are too many people who have lost pets to Rimadyl,
> myself included, for you to defend in ANY way the drug
> company who produces it!
>
> I challenge you to have the same feelings about
> Rimadyl once you have suffered a loss because of it.
>
> Our dog died an agonizing death, and I wouldn't
> wish it on _any_ other dog.
>
> One more condescending reply to this newsgroup from
> you and I will puke all over my keyboard!!!!!
>
> ----------
>
> From: Bados
> Date: Wed, Apr 8 1998
>
> I wasn't able to save my labrador, Bados, who
> died BEFORE Pfizer publicly acknowledged the
> serious side effects.
>
> Perhaps I can save someone elses.
>
> Nancy Carr
> New Jersey
>
> -------------
>
> From: Mishelle Fresener
> Date: Tues, Apr 7 1998 12:00 am
> Email: Mishelle Fresener >
>
> My dog died due to Rimadyl (at least I believe she did)
>
> -----------
>
>> As Buglady said,
>
> BugF'nNUTS is a lyin animal murderin coward like yourself
> who works for a veterinary malpracticioner like your husband
> who's office you run.
>
>> baseline chem panels are standard protocol with NSAIDs as well as
>> follow-ups.
>
> Are those given complimentary, courteHOWESY of
> the veterinary malpracticioner PROFITTING from the
> drugs they sell?
>
>> That's what people whould be warned about.
>
> INDEED?
>
> Hey sharon? Don't you think that by the time the tests
> reveal the dog is goin into kidney / liver failure, that
> the DAMAGE is already DONE, kinda like HOWE
> it might happen if WON was to accidentally take a
> baby critter HOWETA their kitty kat's MHOWETH
> an find that it's a orphaned opossum?
>
> LIKE THIS:
>
> Hey sharon? You remember Fred writin in askin for
> ADVICE for that possum baby his kitty kat brang in?
>
> You told him to put it HOWET in the woods where his
> mommy could find IT. LikeWIZE you told his his mommy
> might not accept IT back on accOHOWENTof he got
> human scent on IT.
>
> Then you told him to 'F-OFF' when he told you your
> ADVICE was a DEADLY MYTH and DEAD WRONG.
>
> LIKE THIS:
>
> From: Jack Crenshaw
> Date: Thurs, Jun 1 2006
> Jack Crenshaw
> Groups: alt.med.veterinary, rec.animals.wildlife, rec.pets
>
> Sharon wrote:
>
>>> What you just said is such a fountain of misinformation
>>> I hardly know where to begin. First, the scent thing: It's
>>> an old wives' tale, and totally false. Second, releasing a
>>> juvenile back to the wild is as good as a death sentence.
>>> The animal will not, repeat _WILL_ _NOT_ survive.
>>> If you just want to kill the juvie, it would be
>>> more humane to flush it down the toilet.
>
>> We'll have to disagree on most levels.
>
>> As for surviving alone in the wild, it's no more likely to
>> sirvive *in most cases* domestically. Most people
>> don't know the first thing about raising wildlife, thus my
>> recommendation to contact a wildlife rehabilitator.
>
> Your advice to contact a wildlife rehabber was a good one.
> Your advice to release a juvenile back to the wild sucked rocks.
>
> Your assertion that the mother would smell the human
> scent on the baby and reject it was ridiculously wrong.
>
>>> Finally, the bit about parasites and organisms. While it's
>>> true that wild animals carry both, so do you. Unless one
>>> plans to eat the dropping or some such, it is not an issue.
>>> Most likely, the worst parasite problem you're likely
>>> to get is a flea bite.
>
>> There are plenty of parasites that are zoonotic diseases that
>> cross species into humans. Hookworms and whipworms
>> which are hard to get rid of to name two.
>>
>> Leptospirosis is on the rise and since it is contracted through
>> contact with urine, more and more cases are seen in facilities
>> that care for stray animals.
>>
>> Not at any time did I demean the OP by assuming that they
>> would be eating feces. But we have to remember that some
>> homes have children and toddlers in them. There was a case
>> of a child dying from parasites licked from firewood brought
>> in by the parents. And one does not have to ingest all parasites
>> to be affected. How do we know that the OP's home does not
>> have an ill person in it - one whose immune system is not
>> compromised thus being more prone to some parasites?
>>
>> Advising someone who is NOT trained in wildlife rehabilitation
>> to take a wild creature into their homes (taking care of them might
>> as well be permission to take them into the home - because it is
>> inevitable that they will) could be detrimental.
>
> Oh, please. How far do you intend to reach to make a case for catching
> hookworms from an opossum? It's true, it _COULD_ happen, esp. if
> there's a child in the home who likes to lick things, and whose immune
> system is compromised by radiation therapy. There's also a finite
> probability that there's an inbound asteroid that has the opossum's
> name on it.
>
> Or a Bigfoot who got bitten by the opossum's mom, and is out to
> get even. Stick with the higher probabilities. It does no good to
> give advice based on 1000-year possibilities.
>
>> Even the National Spossum Society recommends
>> leacing the critters alone:
>
>> "What to do if you encounter an opossum.... NOTHING.
>> http://www.opossum.org/#Membership
>
> Let's be clear: In my post, you will not find _ANY_ suggestion that
> the OP take the opossum into his home and keep it as a pet. And,
> indeed, the best thing one can do for an opossum is to leave it alone,
> just as the NOS says.
>
> _HOWEVER_ -- you seem to have missed the part where
> something has already been done. The baby is _ALREADY_
> in his house. His cat brought it there. The issue, now, is how
> to keep it alive until help arrives.
>
> Seems to me the OP only has two choices: Either keep it
> warm and feed it decent food, until he can get it to a rehabber,
> or take your advice and relegate it to certain death.
>
> Jack
>
> From: Sharon
> Date: Thurs, Jun 1 2006 10:36 am
> Email: "Sharon" >
> Groups: alt.med.veterinary, rec.animals.wildlife, rec.pets
>
> Your reading comprehension was compromised somewhere
> along the way. I'm not pulling this info out of my butt.
>
> FYI - a child's immune system doesn't have to be suppressed by
> radiation to act as a host for a parasite. It is immature and
> developing.
>
> Continue giving dangerous advice. I prefer to dump your a**.
>
> --
> *There are no accidents in life*
>
> -------------
>
> BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
>
> HOWEDY sharon aka sharon too, veterinary malpractice office
> manager, mrs. veterinary malpracticioner, liar, animal muderin
> FRAUD, COWARD and ACTIVE ACUTE CHRONIC LIFE
> LONG INCURABLE MENTAL CASE,
>
> "Sharon Too" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> I have heard that giving garlic to dogs can help with flea control
>> Old wives tale.
>
> Yeah? Like the WON abHOWET wild mamma critters
> abandoning their babies if they should get a human scent
> on them?
>
> Hey sharon? You remember Fred writin in askin for
> ADVICE for that possum baby his kitty kat brang in?
>
> You told him to put it HOWET in the woods where his
> mommy could find IT. LikeWIZE you told his his mommy
> might not accept IT back on accOHOWENTof he got
> human scent on IT.
>
> Then you told him to 'F-OFF' when he told you your
> ADVICE was a DEADLY MYTH and DEAD WRONG.
>
> LIKE THIS:
>
> From: Jack Crenshaw
> Date: Thurs, Jun 1 2006
> Jack Crenshaw
> Groups: alt.med.veterinary, rec.animals.wildlife, rec.pets
>
> Sharon wrote:
>
>>> What you just said is such a fountain of misinformation
>>> I hardly know where to begin. First, the scent thing: It's
>>> an old wives' tale, and totally false. Second, releasing a
>>> juvenile back to the wild is as good as a death sentence.
>>> The animal will not, repeat _WILL_ _NOT_ survive.
>>> If you just want to kill the juvie, it would be
>>> more humane to flush it down the toilet.
>
>> We'll have to disagree on most levels.
>
>> As for surviving alone in the wild, it's no more likely to
>> sirvive *in most cases* domestically. Most people
>> don't know the first thing about raising wildlife, thus my
>> recommendation to contact a wildlife rehabilitator.
>
> Your advice to contact a wildlife rehabber was a good one.
> Your advice to release a juvenile back to the wild sucked rocks.
>
> Your assertion that the mother would smell the human
> scent on the baby and reject it was ridiculously wrong.
>
>>> Finally, the bit about parasites and organisms. While it's
>>> true that wild animals carry both, so do you. Unless one
>>> plans to eat the dropping or some such, it is not an issue.
>>> Most likely, the worst parasite problem you're likely
>>> to get is a flea bite.
>
>> There are plenty of parasites that are zoonotic diseases that
>> cross species into humans. Hookworms and whipworms
>> which are hard to get rid of to name two.
>>
>> Leptospirosis is on the rise and since it is contracted through
>> contact with urine, more and more cases are seen in facilities
>> that care for stray animals.
>>
>> Not at any time did I demean the OP by assuming that they
>> would be eating feces. But we have to remember that some
>> homes have children and toddlers in them. There was a case
>> of a child dying from parasites licked from firewood brought
>> in by the parents. And one does not have to ingest all parasites
>> to be affected. How do we know that the OP's home does not
>> have an ill person in it - one whose immune system is not
>> compromised thus being more prone to some parasites?
>>
>> Advising someone who is NOT trained in wildlife rehabilitation
>> to take a wild creature into their homes (taking care of them might
>> as well be permission to take them into the home - because it is
>> inevitable that they will) could be detrimental.
>
> Oh, please. How far do you intend to reach to make a case for catching
> hookworms from an opossum? It's true, it _COULD_ happen, esp. if
> there's a child in the home who likes to lick things, and whose immune
> system is compromised by radiation therapy. There's also a finite
> probability that there's an inbound asteroid that has the opossum's
> name on it.
>
> Or a Bigfoot who got bitten by the opossum's mom, and is out to
> get even. Stick with the higher probabilities. It does no good to
> give advice based on 1000-year possibilities.
>
>> Even the National Spossum Society recommends
>> leacing the critters alone:
>
>> "What to do if you encounter an opossum.... NOTHING.
>> http://www.opossum.org/#Membership
>
> Let's be clear: In my post, you will not find _ANY_ suggestion that
> the OP take the opossum into his home and keep it as a pet. And,
> indeed, the best thing one can do for an opossum is to leave it alone,
> just as the NOS says.
>
> _HOWEVER_ -- you seem to have missed the part where
> something has already been done. The baby is _ALREADY_
> in his house. His cat brought it there. The issue, now, is how
> to keep it alive until help arrives.
>
> Seems to me the OP only has two choices: Either keep it
> warm and feed it decent food, until he can get it to a rehabber,
> or take your advice and relegate it to certain death.
>
> Jack
>
> From: Sharon
> Date: Thurs, Jun 1 2006 10:36 am
> Email: "Sharon" >
> Groups: alt.med.veterinary, rec.animals.wildlife, rec.pets
>
> Your reading comprehension was compromised somewhere
> along the way. I'm not pulling this info out of my butt.
>
> FYI - a child's immune system doesn't have to be suppressed by
> radiation to act as a host for a parasite. It is immature and
> developing.
>
> Continue giving dangerous advice. I prefer to dump your a**.
>
> --
> *There are no accidents in life*
>
> -------------
>
> BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
>
>> It certainly doesn't kill all of the life cycle of the flea.
>
> That's curiHOWES. It AIN'T suppHOWESED to KILL them,
> sharon. It's a REPELLENT. You put it ON the dog's FUR. Of
> curse, there IS a strong probability that occasionally giving
> garlic internally MAY kill a variety of parasites, includin and
> PARTICULARLY, HW.
>
> HOWEver, the veterinary malpractice and pharmacutical industries
> DON'T WANT to test the efficacy of NATURAL CURES for DIS-
> EASES as it would PUT YOU HOWETA BUSINESS.
>
> IN FACT, 90% of your practice goes RIGHT DHOWEN the crapper
> as soon as folks wize up and follow the MONEY trail to your practice
> and see the EFFECTIVE CURES you and your industry repress in favor
> of SELLIN TOXIC treatments which CAUSE DIS-EASE, just like your
> surgical sexual mutilations.
> From: showdogbark
> Date: Sun, Apr 30 2006 6:09 pm
> Email: "showdogbark" >
>
>
> I have used half Engevita Yeast and half Flake yeast
> with Garlic Powder, not tablets along with Dulce or
> Kelp powder for fleas for years on my dogs and cats
> in their diet daily, and along with absolutelty no
> fleas, they love the taste.
>
>
> Often if a dog comes to visit and they are not hungry
> due to being left without their owner and are avoiding
> their food, just putting the mix on their food makes
> them very interested in eating. My friends have used
> this mixture for years and also no fleas.
>
>
> I certainly agree with Jerry that chemical so called
> solutions to fleas are only of help to the chemical
> companies and the pockets of vets to be fattened.
>
>
> Also Dr. Pitcairn is a fabulous source of info. But
> when it comes to fleas it is the above mixture I
> mentioned that for 20 years has been my solution
> and my friends solutions also.
>
>
> Remember it must be powder and organic garlic not
> just any powder on a shelf with additives.
>
>
> Stay away from drugs for yourselves and for dogs and cats.
>
>
> Be Well, and love your animals by being nonviolent with them
> and that means using methods of training like Jerry's and the
> First Nations along with no chemical garbage as so called
> nutrition or help with medical problems like fleas.
>
>
> Do Good, Be Good, Be One.
>
> ---------------------
>
>> And it can also be toxic.
>
> That so? Oh, you mean like your PROFESSIONAL advice, sharon?:
>
> From: Sharon
> Date: Sun, Apr 30 2006 11:03 pm
> Email: "Sharon" >
>
> I think it's best to think of garlic as it relates to fleas
> like sprinkling sage around the edges of a kitchen to keep
> ants out. The ants are still there - alive - procreating,
> just like the fleas will be. Further, fleas can cause issues
> with the humans in the house. It's better to ask your vet
> about a product that will kill all stages of the fleas' life
> cycle.
>
>
> -Sharon
>
> ----------------------
>
> INDEED? THAT'S WHAT KILLED Sage...
>
> LIKE THIS:
>
> Subject: Warning Revolution Heartworm Med
>
>
> From: LUVAPOOCH
> Date: Sat, Apr 8 2000 3:00 am
> Email: (LUVAPOOCH)
>
>
> Kelly Cruzan On 3/15/00 wrote:
>
>
> I asked my Vet for a Heartworm preventive for my 2 year
> old Australian Shepherd, Sage. They recommended Revolution.
> It was applied on 3/15/00. On 3/20/00 Sage developed a cough,
> but she was otherwise fine.
>
>
> She had had a bath at the Vet on 3/15/00 also, so I decided
> to watch her for further symptoms. On 3/23/00 she was fine
> until late afternoon when she became quiet and didn't want
> to play.
>
>
> By 7pm that night, she had trouble opening her left eye and
> whimpered when she jumped down from the couch or bed. In
> the past, Sage always had a tendency to bruise easily.
>
>
> She had sensitive skin and worry an area until it bruised.
> She had no trouble with her blood clotting and had been
> previously spayed.
>
>
> She now had bruising on her body. When I took her to the
> Vet, he asked if she had been in rat poison. I informed
> him that she was an inside dog and only went out to play
> with the kids and to use the bathroom. My neighbors have
> pets and do not put out poisons. They also asked if she
> had had a blow to the head because there was blood in the
> whites of her eyes that was not there yesterday.
>
>
> I stated that she was not hit in the head. I asked if it
> could be the Revolution and was informed that it could not
> be. I told my vet that was the only thing that Sage had
> been exposed to.
>
>
> He did a CBC and her platelets were 87 and WBC count was
> 27,000. her Hct was 37. He treated her for infection and
> rat poisoning and sent us home.
>
>
> Within 3 hours she was falling over. I rushed her back
> to the Vet and he kept her until 5pm that afternoon. I
> brought her home after they said she was doing better.
>
>
> At 6pm she was again falling over and I called my Vet back
> and was informed to bring her back the next day. By 11pm,
> she was bleeding from her nose and had vomited with streaks
> of bright red blood. My husband and I drove her to an ER
> clinic in Savannah, GA and was told that it was either a tick
> born disease or rat poisoning or a blow to the head.
>
>
> I again asked if could be the Revolution and was informed no.
>
>
> They kept her and treated her as my vet. When I called at
> 6am, I was informed that she was having seizures but she was
> otherwise stable. I was worried about a subdural hematoma
> and talked with my Vet.
>
>
> He suggested I take Sage to Charleston, SC to see a Specialist.
> She arrived there at 4:30pm. When I gave her history, I again
> asked if it could be the Revolution and was informed no. Later
> that night Sage continued to have seizures and she bled into the
> orbits of her eyes, but they said their was still hope.
>
>
> At 6:45am they called and said Sage had arrested and
> was on a ventilator. We asked that they let her go.
> This has been devastating to my family.
>
>
> We loved that dog. She was a family member. At 10am, the
> clinic called and asked for an autopsy. They informed me
> that another dog had died last month there, with symptoms
> the same as Sage. The dog was an inside dog and the only
> thing different was that the owner had started Revolution.
>
>
> The dog died of low platelets and intracrannial
> hemorrhage just like Sage.
>
>
> The vet in Charleston called the Revolution people and
> they are paying for Sages autopsy. They also paid for
> the other dogs autopsy. That autopsy showed low platelets
> and intracrannial hemorrhage from a toxin. (? Revolution
> was the only toxin the owners had given).
>
>
> I will not know the results of the autopsy for a month,
> but I believe it was the Revolution. If 2 dogs have died
> in the Savannah-Charleston area in the last month, how
> many nation wide.
>
>
> Please spread the word for owners to be careful about
> using this drug on their dogs. No dog should suffer
> like my Sage suffered.
>
>
> Thanks for Listening,
>
> Terri Eddy
> Rincon, GA
>
>
> HOWEDY jst,
>
>
>
> jst wrote:
>> Sharon wrote:
>>> What are you doing for flea prevention?
>
>
> Allergies are a result of compromised auto-immune
> system. Auto-immune systems are COMPROMISED
> by STRESS, insufficient diet, and TOXINS.
>
> ALL commercial dog food is GARBAGE.
>
> sharon is a veterinary malpractice office manager and
> mrs. veterinary malpracticioner and proven lyin dog
> abusing punk thug coward active acute chronic long
> term incurable mental case.
>
>
> She SELLS toxins and prescription garbage diets for her
> livin when she ain't SELLIN MUTILATIONS and MURDERIN
> dogs and comfortin their owners while acceptin their payments.
> Shell fleece you as fast as her own veterinary malpractice
> customers..
>
>
>> Frontline,
>
>
> HOWEDY Nell71,
>
>
>
> Nell71 wrote:
> Subject: Re: Broken Heart Needs Answers/Help My dog has died
> From: Nell71
> Date: Sat, Mar 4 2006 10:03 pm
> Email: Nell71 >
>
>
> My dog has died and I was hoping if I give you the details that you
> could shed some light on what could have happened to her. The vet
> didn't know and we couldn't face an autopsy. We have talk to a few
> professionals who deny Frontline could have been the prbolem.
>
>
> At 5pm on Monday night, Frontline Plus was applied as per instructions.
> By about 6.30-7pm she was showing signs of disorientation, looking
> vague (I would call her and she stared blankly at me), fatigue, panting
> heavily, a little drool, excessive thirst. No vomiting but a 'hack' a
> couple of times. No diarrheoa. No bleeding that we could see.
>
> We phoned 24 hour local vet who said it couldn't be the Frontline so
> she would be ok.
>
>
> We watched her over night, but by morning still very thirsty, fatigued,
> vague. Called our vet who said if she was still the same later that day
> to bring her in.
>
>
> My partner was finally able to get off work to check on her at 4pm that
> day on the Tuesday.
>
>
> Temperatures outside were 38c and he found her sitting by the pool gate
> (we always left the doors open so she could have stayed inside in the
> cool), panting heavily, glassy eyed, drooling, a little foamy in
> corners of mouth, tongue blueish under and white on top, gums whiteish.
>
> He got her into the car, by the time he reached the vet 5 minutes away
> she was limp. The vet gave her 2 adrenalin shots and got her heart
> going again but she died.
>
> If it is any help with diagnosing, she has always been a little
> 'simple'. We lovingly said she was our down syndrome dog as she hung
> her head to the left from birth with her tongue hanging out the left
> side of her mouth. She was always a little left sided when walking etc.
>
>
> She would run and get the ball and drop it straight away then run to
> you with nothing.
>
> She would growl when you hugged her and we have never
> hurt her for her to be aggressive. We have been told maybe
> she had a neurological disorder, does it sound like it to you?
>
> We have Rhubarb in our pool area but don't think she ate any
> although this is toxic.
>
> We get poisoned dead rats in the pool area (from other people, we don't
> use snail pellets or rat poison ourselves) and found one there the day
> after but it wasn't undisturbed, could a 'lick' have killed her?)
> Frankly we blame ourselves as it seems too coincidental for it to be
> anything but the Frontline Plus.
>
>
> What do you think the symptoms show?
>
>
> Any past experiences, thoughts are appreciated,
> Thanks in advance
>
>

Re: Working dog diets

chardonnay9 — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:07:37 GMT

about ulcer of the eye

Leslie Babendir — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:35:46 GMT

I am a pet sitter and recently when I took a clients dog in for one eye
to be checked... for a totally different reason... the vet
ophthalmologist checked the other eye and said it had an ulcer.. I never
even saw anything wrong...
dog had surgery same day... not doing to well..
May need other surgery... Has anyone's dog had an ulcer and does surgery
more then not help to correct the problem......?

Les

Dog Flea Treatments : How to tell if your dog has fleas

pamela — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:35:08 GMT

Dog flea treatments are a common inquiry that dog owners seek. Dog
fleas are one of the parasites that affect dogs. How to tell if your
dog has fleas? The symptoms of a flea infestation are unmistakable.

All of these parasites cause adverse reactions in your dog: typically,
itching and inflamed skin, a dull coat, and bald spots. In advanced
cases, your dog may develop anemia (blood loss) and become generally
debilitated (particularly if he or she is very young, very old, or
suffering from another condition).

To start checking on your beloved dog's health and check if he has
fleas, you can read this informative and helpful article on how to
treat
your dog if he has fleas.
http://www.squidoo.com/dogfleatreatments

Dog Obedience Tips : Positive reinforcement training

gayle — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:30:31 GMT

Positive reinforcement training is the most productive and humane way
to start training for dogs. It is a simple theory that require
awarding the conduct that you need duplicated, and disregarding the
conduct that you don't. Once popular trainings such as intimidation
and using shock collars which by the way are inhumane, are totally
outdated. Positive reinforcement method works for house training for
dogs. A dog's natural instinct is to please you so when you use
positive reinforcement method, you're giving your dog more time and
probability to use the dog's own mind. This method ensures your dog to
learn lessons that are more meaningful and it will be more attached to
what is being taught.

http://www.squidoo.com/house-training-for-dogs has great tips for
house training your dog and how to enforce the simple and effective
positive reinforcement
training method.

garlic

Phyllis Stone — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:25:06 GMT

I am sure I have read that garlic was not good for dogs. I was watching a
dogs 101 today and they were mixing garlic in the dog's food and said it was
also good for preventing fleas. Is this correct?

House Train your Dog using Positive Reinforcement Method

vanessa — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:18:57 GMT

Positive reinforcement training is the most productive and humane way
to start training for dogs. It is a simple theory that require
awarding the conduct that you need duplicated, and disregarding the
conduct that you don't. Once popular trainings such as intimidation
and using shock collars which by the way are inhumane, are totally
outdated. Positive reinforcement method works for house training for
dogs. A dog's natural instinct is to please you so when you use
positive reinforcement method, you're giving your dog more time and
probability to use the dog's own mind. This method ensures your dog to
learn lessons that are more meaningful and it will be more attached to
what is being taught.

http://www.squidoo.com/house-training-for-dogs has great tips for
house training your dog and how to simply use the positive
reinforcement
training method that your dog will understand easily.

How to tell if your dog has fleas

vanessa — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:14:48 GMT

Dog flea treatments are a common inquiry that dog owners seek. Dog
fleas are one of the parasites that affect dogs. How to tell if your
dog has fleas? The symptoms of a flea infestation are unmistakable.

All of these parasites cause adverse reactions in your dog: typically,
itching and inflamed skin, a dull coat, and bald spots. In advanced
cases, your dog may develop anemia (blood loss) and become generally
debilitated (particularly if he or she is very young, very old, or
suffering from another condition).

To start checking on your beloved dog's health and check if he has
fleas, you can read this informative and helpful article on how to
treat your dog
with fleas.
http://www.squidoo.com/dogfleatreatments

Dog Flea Treatments

vanessa — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:05:28 GMT

Dog flea treatments are a common inquiry that dog owners seek. Dog
fleas are one of the parasites that affect dogs. How to tell if your
dog has fleas? The symptoms of a flea infestation are unmistakable.

All of these parasites cause adverse reactions in your dog: typically,
itching and inflamed skin, a dull coat, and bald spots. In advanced
cases, your dog may develop anemia (blood loss) and become generally
debilitated (particularly if he or she is very young, very old, or
suffering from another condition).

To start checking on your beloved dog's health and check if he has
fleas, read this informative and helpful article on how to treat dogs
with fleas.
http://www.squidoo.com/dogfleatreatments

Positive reinforcement training

vanessa — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:00:06 GMT

My loving Lhasa Apso and Diabetes

meteore — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:29:50 GMT

I feel compelled to share my story about having to put my best friend
for eleven years, a 29 pound female lhasa Apso to sleep. I bought her
from a
respectable breeder when she was six months old and weighed 22
pounds.
She was big for her breed and people thought she was a Tibetan
terrier..

She always had plenty of energy and loved to walk. she barked briefly
at everybody she saw. She was saying hello. Years ago, when she was
about a year old, people were admiring shoes at a old fashioned wrap
around store window and I told her to say hello. She barked and the
people nearly jumped out of their clothes. Since then she never
stopped.

She was always friendly with other dogs, except she knew when dogs
were menacing and avoided them.

She was faithful and loving, allowed you to do any kind of grooming,
cleaning or administer any eye drops, which she recently needed, acct
mucous forming. She would attempt to eat off my wife's plate, because
I spoiled her by giving her treats.

You had to watch how you talked, because she semed to understand
english. She would run in from the bedroom, when she heard something,
like being hungry, going in car etc.

She would come over to me at about supper time and sit in front of me
and tap me with her paw to start cooking supper, even though her food
was already there.

We gave her raw vegetables and fruit. Years ago we gave her cheese
and
pasta and that I think caused her toget calcium stones in bladder and
a subsequent operation to remove them.

A few days ago she made me take her out frequently at all hours and
when she came back she would cosume a large amount of water. I took
her to
the vet and they diagnosed her with diabetes and a urinary infection,
which I missed, as I thought it was a anal gland problem. She had a
very strong heart the doctor said.

My wife being ill herself and needing around the clock care and
awaiting entrance to a hospital, I felt I could not cope with two
problems and the stringent care the dog would need and other problems
developing because of diabetes.

I had her put to sleep and I am heartbroken. She was the best dog I
ever had and cannot say anything bad about her.

I am a senior and not in any rush to get another dog, Since Lhasa
Apsos really only come in small sizes, I was thinking after my wifes
problems are resolved I was thinking of getting a tibetan terrier or
havanese. I am in a appartment and I do not think it is suitable for
a
large breed.

I wish I could have cloned my pet, but that is impossible at the
present time.

What breeds do you think are affectionate, gentle and intelligent and
suitable for my situation?

Roger

Lhasa Apso put to sleep because of diabetes

meteore — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:31:59 GMT

I feel compelled to share my story about having to put my best friend
for eleven years, a 29 pound female lhasa Apso. I bought her from a
respectable breeder when she was six months old and weighed 22 pounds.
She was big for her breed and people thought she was a Tibetan
terrier..

She always had plenty of energy and loved to walk. she barked briefly
at everybody she saw. She was saying hello. Years ago, when she was
about a year old, people were admiring shoes at a old fashioned wrap
around store window and I told her to say hello. She barked and the
people nearly jumped out of their clothes. Since then she never
stopped.

She was always friendly with other dogs, except she knew when dogs
were menacing and avoided them.

She was faithful and loving, allowed you to do any kind of grooming,
cleaning or administer any eye drops, which she recently needed, acct
mucous forming.

You had to watch how you talked, because she semed to understand
english. She would run in from the bedroom, when she heard something,
like being hungry, going in car etc.

She would come over to me at about supper time and sit in front of me
and tap me with her paw to start cooking supper, even though her food
was already there.

We gave her raw vegetables and fruit. Years ago we gave her cheese and
pasta and that I think caused her toget calcium stones in bladder and
a subsequent operation to remove them.

A few days ago she made me take her out frequently at all hours and
when she came back she would a large amount of water. I took her to
the vet and they diagnosed her with diabetes and a urinary infection,
which I missed, as Ithought it was a anal gland problem. She had a
very strong heart the doctor said.

My wife being ill herself and needing around the clock care and
awaiting entrance to a hospital, I felt I could not cope with two
problems.

I had her put to sleep and I am heartbroken. She was the best dog I
ever had and cannot say anything bad about her.

I am a senior and not in any rush to get another dog, Since Lhasa
Apsos really only come in small sizes, I was thinking after my wifes
problems are resolved I was thinking of getting a tibetan terrier or
havanese. I am in a appartment and I do not think it is suitable for a
large breed.

I wish I could have cloned my pet, but that is impossible at the
present time.

What breeds do you think are affectionate, gentle and intelligent and
suitable for my situation?

Roger

Letter to Carmine

Terri — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:16:00 GMT

Dear Carmine,

You and I both know I love you dearly and that I feel the sun
rises and sets because of you.
However, I need to have a discussion on you lousy sense of direction.
You're confused, dear heart.
You see,when you sleep in the bed with me you're supposed to
do one of two things:

1. Sleep at the foot of the bed
2. Sleep with YOUR feet towards the foot of the bed
ie: your head up where MY head is.

When you stretch out with your feet towards my face because
you're so deliriously comfy and happy, you not only wake me up with your
toenail imbedded inside my nostril, sometimes you've accidentally
scratched my face leaving me with a mouth that looks like I'm wearing
lipstick on the lower half of my face under my lip.

Love,
Your devoted food slave and poop picker-upper

Worried dog lover.

Bht334@webtv.net — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:00:14 GMT

Is there someone that is familier with a large
lump which is jelly like to the touch on my dog's underside and when I
gently touch it my dog my dog feels no pain , my vet tells me not to
worry
as this is a fatty deposit build up which is common in some dogs. I
never heard of any such thing. I am concerned that it could turn into
cancer, should I be worried? Thank you.

Bob