Torn dew claw
Hi all, I took my Terrier/Chihuahua mix Mimi to the groomers today to
have her claws trimmed. I suggested to the groomer that Mimi be muzzled as I was worried that she may bite as she HATES going there, even though I trust the groomers will do a great job. Once the muzzle was put on, Mimi frantically tried to get it off and inadvertently tore off her dew claw. They treated it and once I got home, gave Mimi half a baby aspirin for pain. This is the 2nd time this year she has torn off her dew claw. Has anyone else had any problems with their dogs tearing their dew claws off more than once? Anyone ever have the dew claws surgically removed to prevent future injuries? Thanks. |
Torn dew claw
"DeeDee" wrote in message ups.com... Hi all, I took my Terrier/Chihuahua mix Mimi to the groomers today to have her claws trimmed. I suggested to the groomer that Mimi be muzzled as I was worried that she may bite as she HATES going there, even though I trust the groomers will do a great job. Once the muzzle was put on, Mimi frantically tried to get it off and inadvertently tore off her dew claw. They treated it and once I got home, gave Mimi half a baby aspirin for pain. This is the 2nd time this year she has torn off her dew claw. Has anyone else had any problems with their dogs tearing their dew claws off more than once? Anyone ever have the dew claws surgically removed to prevent future injuries? Thanks. ======== Yes, My Rotty's dew claws were removed. I think it is best to remove them as they catch on to everything and tear and then bleed and possibly become infected if torn open. I was not the one who had it done, however, the Rotty Rescue wanted it done and they also paid to do it. So, before ownership papers were exchanged, I had to take her to their vet to have it done. |
Torn dew claw
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pfoley wrote: Yes, My Rotty's dew claws were removed. I think it is best to remove them as they catch on to everything and tear and then bleed and possibly become infected if torn open. ??? Could this be related to your grooming habits? I've never had a dewclaw tear on any of my dogs. I've had dewclaws removed when they weren't attached (i.e. when it was just the skin attaching them to the leg, and they were floppy as a result), but otherwise tend to leave them as they were when I acquired the dog. My vet said that she will not remove them unless there's a problem, since it's basically cosmetic surgery otherwise, and not trivial for the dog. Mushers routinely remove dewclaws when the puppies are a few days old. The issue there is not that the dewclaws catch and tear, but that pressure from booties pushes the dewclaw against the leg, and sores tend to develop under the dewclaw as a result. Three of my dogs have no dewclaws as a result. The other four do, and all of the dogs I've had in the past have had them as well. Better hygiene, dude. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
Torn dew claw
"Melinda Shore" wrote in message ... In article t, pfoley wrote: Yes, My Rotty's dew claws were removed. I think it is best to remove them as they catch on to everything and tear and then bleed and possibly become infected if torn open. ??? Could this be related to your grooming habits? I've never had a dewclaw tear on any of my dogs. I've had dewclaws removed when they weren't attached (i.e. when it was just the skin attaching them to the leg, and they were floppy as a result), but otherwise tend to leave them as they were when I acquired the dog. My vet said that she will not remove them unless there's a problem, since it's basically cosmetic surgery otherwise, and not trivial for the dog. Mushers routinely remove dewclaws when the puppies are a few days old. The issue there is not that the dewclaws catch and tear, but that pressure from booties pushes the dewclaw against the leg, and sores tend to develop under the dewclaw as a result. Three of my dogs have no dewclaws as a result. The other four do, and all of the dogs I've had in the past have had them as well. Better hygiene, dude. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community ==== Sorry, don't know what you are talking about. I did not remove the dew claws, the Rottweiler Rescue had them removed. The vet said people have them removed because they catch onto things and tear and bleed, thus many times become infected. This was a good thing, and not done by me. It was done while being handed over to me by the Rotty Rescue group, and they wanted it done. I never asked them to do it or pay for it; they wanted it done. My dog has excellent care all year long. |
Torn dew claw
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pfoley wrote: The vet said people have them removed because they catch onto things and tear and bleed, thus many times become infected. I've heard of it happening, although it's never happened to me, but it seems to be rather rare. The dogs most susceptible to it are those with detached dewclaws, which should be removed. You suggested that it's a common problem, which it's certainly not. In your writing you're quite prone to using absolutes and universals when it's not warranted. It's why you're frequently incorrect on your facts. Hedging your statements would improve their accuracy. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
Torn dew claw
"Melinda Shore" wrote in message ... In article et, pfoley wrote: The vet said people have them removed because they catch onto things and tear and bleed, thus many times become infected. I've heard of it happening, although it's never happened to me, but it seems to be rather rare. The dogs most susceptible to it are those with detached dewclaws, which should be removed. You suggested that it's a common problem, which it's certainly not. In your writing you're quite prone to using absolutes and universals when it's not warranted. It's why you're frequently incorrect on your facts. Hedging your statements would improve their accuracy. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community ====== The vet told me that stuff; I did not take her to the vet to have them removed. The Rescue group told me to do it. I complied and asked the vet why it had to be done. Some people also have it done for cosmetic reasons. But, this was done to prevent tears. I am sorry you do not like my responses. |
Torn dew claw
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pfoley wrote: Some people also have it done for cosmetic reasons. But, this was done to prevent tears. Here's what you posted: I think it is best to remove them as they catch on to everything and tear and then bleed and possibly become infected if torn open. That is factually incorrect. Dew claws do not catch on "everything." They rarely catch on anything. Sometimes they do and in a subset of those cases they become torn and in a subset of those cases they become infected, but it's not common. What you posted was 1) wrong, and 2) histrionic. What you post is frequently 1) wrong, and 2) histrionic. If you're interested in actually being helpful you might consider ratcheting it back a notch or three. Unless the dewclaw is naturally detached, dewclaw removal surgery is actually an amputation and it involves cutting through a joint. It's not something I would undertake on an adult dog with an adult skeleton on the slight chance it may become injured (heck, why not cut off all the toes?). This isn't the first goofy thing I've heard coming out of a rescue organization and unfortunately I'm sure it won't be the last. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
Torn dew claw
"Melinda Shore" wrote in message ... In article t, pfoley wrote: Some people also have it done for cosmetic reasons. But, this was done to prevent tears. Here's what you posted: I think it is best to remove them as they catch on to everything and tear and then bleed and possibly become infected if torn open. That is factually incorrect. Dew claws do not catch on "everything." They rarely catch on anything. Sometimes they do and in a subset of those cases they become torn and in a subset of those cases they become infected, but it's not common. What you posted was 1) wrong, and 2) histrionic. What you post is frequently 1) wrong, and 2) histrionic. If you're interested in actually being helpful you might consider ratcheting it back a notch or three. Unless the dewclaw is naturally detached, dewclaw removal surgery is actually an amputation and it involves cutting through a joint. It's not something I would undertake on an adult dog with an adult skeleton on the slight chance it may become injured (heck, why not cut off all the toes?). This isn't the first goofy thing I've heard coming out of a rescue organization and unfortunately I'm sure it won't be the last. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community === My dog had no problem having it done. I don't think any joint was cut. She was in and out in a few hours and healed fast. She did not limp or was in any pain. Dew claws are not necessary and do tear and bleed if caught on things; you don't have to remove your dew claws if you don't want to. My vet and the rescue wanted it done on my dog. If a dog does not have any problems with them, then it might not be necessary. Apparently, the OP is having a problem with her dog tearing his dew claw. It has happened twice to her dog so far. I would think that might be a problem for her dog, and so suggested to her what my experts told me, and what was done to my dog. As stated a few times now to you, this was not my idea, but the professionals. Why are you always so angry? |
Torn dew claw
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pfoley wrote: Why are you always so angry? The tone of my posts probably reflects a certain level of frustration with your consistently lousy advice. It's not that I'm angry, per se, but rather than that I think you're a self-aggrandizing idiot and I don't know how to convey that in a more neutral tone. Dewclaws do not catch on "everything." Dewclaw injuries are not common. And if you actually knew anything about dog anatomy, structure, and movement, you'd know that while the jury is still out it's been noticed that agility dogs without dewclaws seem to have a greater incidence of carpal arthritis than dogs without dewclaws. The front dewclaw is the insertion point for a ligament which holds the carpal joint together. You're recommending amputating the dog's thumbs without understanding what it is that you're actually recommending. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
Torn dew claw
"Melinda Shore" wrote in message ... In article et, pfoley wrote: Why are you always so angry? The tone of my posts probably reflects a certain level of frustration with your consistently lousy advice. It's not that I'm angry, per se, but rather than that I think you're a self-aggrandizing idiot and I don't know how to convey that in a more neutral tone. Dewclaws do not catch on "everything." Dewclaw injuries are not common. And if you actually knew anything about dog anatomy, structure, and movement, you'd know that while the jury is still out it's been noticed that agility dogs without dewclaws seem to have a greater incidence of carpal arthritis than dogs without dewclaws. The front dewclaw is the insertion point for a ligament which holds the carpal joint together. You're recommending amputating the dog's thumbs without understanding what it is that you're actually recommending. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community ===== As stated in this case, I went by the advice of a vet and rescue group. You don't have to remove them if you don't want to. I was told to do this. But, thanks for your comments anyway. You sure sound like an angry person to me, no matter who you respond to. |
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