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Newfoundland With Prey Drive--serious problem
I received this on a newf rescue board and asked for permission to
post it here. Many of you are AWESOME with advice and interpretation. I'm game to take back everything everyone says. I had nothing to do with the original post but I can go to the poster and get more info as needed. ********************* I have a Newfoundland mix (possibly with black lab) that I rescued as a small puppy, (at approximately 12 weeks of age). He is now 2 1/2 years old. We also have a Golden Retriever and cats. Up until the end of January, we never had any problem. One day, my husband and I went away for several hours and while we were gone, "Nick" had grabbed one of my cats and caused it to have a hernia. I work part-time at a vet office, so I took him immediately to have it repaired. Since that time, I have tried to be careful not to allow Nick the opportunity to be alone with this particular cat. Despite the fact that the other cats lay all around the house and Nick never seems to bother them, I try to put "Casper" in a separate room. However, last Monday, my husband left for approx. 10 to 15 minutes and when he returned, he knew that something had happened. When he found Casper, he was hyperventilating and breathing through his mouth and obviously in shock. He rushed him into the vet office and we got him calmed down with anti-shock med. and pain med. , however, x-rays showed that he had 2 fractured ribs and we found a couple puncture wounds, on his back. This evening, my husband took both dogs for their daily walk and Nick ran ahead of him. When he caught up to him, he found him straddling a baby fawn, that he had just killed (while the mother stood nearby and watched). This is such unacceptable behavior that I am at a loss as to what to do. This dog is perfect in every other way. He has never been aggressive to any person, has never had accidents in the house, we live near a road, which he never attempts to go on. He doesn't lack attention. We have an in-ground pool that he has total access to, at all times, and he loves. I just don't know what to do. My husband and I both dearly love this dog, but do not feel that he can be trusted. I just don't know what triggers his aggressive actions. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, delete owners name |
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Newfoundland With Prey Drive--serious problem
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, Nessa wrote: This evening, my husband took both dogs for their daily walk and Nick ran ahead of him. When he caught up to him, he found him straddling a baby fawn, that he had just killed (while the mother stood nearby and watched). This is such unacceptable behavior that I am at a loss as to what to do. Why anyone lets a dog that far ahead of them that they can't see that happening, is beyond me. "never goes near the road", "total access to inground pool at all times" tells me that the dog decides things, not the people - he's being given too many freedoms of choice. Sometimes he may make the right one (not going in the road), but often the wrong one. Obedience training and a shorter leash (figuratively, literally) are necessary. -- Janet Boss www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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Newfoundland With Prey Drive--serious problem
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rec.pets.dogs.behavior: [Cats and deer] I doubt that this aspect of prey drive can be reliably trained out. Your acquaintances will have to be more careful in managing the situation. Perhaps, when the dog grows past adolescence, he'll be more (though not completely) trustworthy with the household cats. -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
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Newfoundland With Prey Drive--serious problem
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Rocky wrote: I doubt that this aspect of prey drive can be reliably trained out If the dog is really meek you might be able to convince it that it's going to DIE if it messes with the cat. But even then it's probably not going to be trustworthy and you'd need to supervise interactions, anyway. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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Newfoundland With Prey Drive--serious problem
Nessa said in part...
My husband and I both dearly love this dog but do not feel that he can be trusted. I just don't know what triggers his aggressive actions. __________________________________ Nessa I understand that you posted this item on behalf of someone else from another forum. I am sure by now someone else has posted the same comment I am about to. My suggestion is to manage the dog with with the "serious problem". The owners have already had too many incidents and should know better than to allow a dog with prey drive to run at large or ahead of them on a walk. What if the dog's prey drive causes him to kill someone else's animal or another animal within his home? The bottom line is that I do not think the dog can be trained to not be aggressive but whether I am right or wrong it is not very wise of them to allow the dog around cats period and I would not completely rule out an attack on the Golden that he shares a home with. I have a dog that has exhibited dog aggression. I love him very much. He is a good companion and very well behaved but when it comes to attacking another dog I can not trust him so I do not allow him to be in that position. He was 2 years old before he exhibited that behavior. He had lived with me for one year before showing any sign of dog aggression. It only took one time for me to learn that I must manage him every minute of every day just to be safe. It is a lot of work but he is worth it to me. The people you posted about have had more than a clue. If they really care about their dog they need to train him in obedience and manage him at all times as not only could he kill or maim another animal but he could end up dead himself. Perhaps the OP should consult a behaviorist not for rehabilitation but so they may have some understanding about prey drive. Of course there are books on the subject. People like the owner of that dog never cease to amaze me. I could understand how they were caught off guard the first time when their cat was attacked but it shouldn't have been allowed to happen again. Feel free to pass my post on to the owners of that dog if you think it would be of help. I wish them well. Be Free.....Judy |
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Newfoundland With Prey Drive--serious problem
I had a black lab Newfoundland mix growing up. His prey drive caused him to get hit by a truck chasing a groundhog. Best dog I ever had. Harness and muzzle was necessary to introduce him to new animals. He killed dogs on my property that wondered on before. It took us about a week to three weeks to get him to accept a new animal if we wanted one. Three weeks for a farret one week for a pomeranian two weeks for a lab. Rotwieler puppy he treated like it was his puppy. Introducing new animals was a 24/7 job though.he was on 7 acre waterfront as well. So he was built for our property.
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Newfoundland With Prey Drive--serious problem
Den onsdag 24 juni 2009 kl. 19:58:21 UTC+2 skrev Nessa:
I received this on a newf rescue board and asked for permission to post it here. Many of you are AWESOME with advice and interpretation. I'm game to take back everything everyone says. I had nothing to do with the original post but I can go to the poster and get more info as needed. ********************* I have a Newfoundland mix (possibly with black lab) that I rescued as a small puppy, (at approximately 12 weeks of age). He is now 2 1/2 years old. We also have a Golden Retriever and cats. Up until the end of January, we never had any problem. One day, my husband and I went away for several hours and while we were gone, "Nick" had grabbed one of my cats and caused it to have a hernia. I work part-time at a vet office, so I took him immediately to have it repaired. Since that time, I have tried to be careful not to allow Nick the opportunity to be alone with this particular cat. Despite the fact that the other cats lay all around the house and Nick never seems to bother them, I try to put "Casper" in a separate room. However, last Monday, my husband left for approx. 10 to 15 minutes and when he returned, he knew that something had happened. When he found Casper, he was hyperventilating and breathing through his mouth and obviously in shock. He rushed him into the vet office and we got him calmed down with anti-shock med. and pain med. , however, x-rays showed that he had 2 fractured ribs and we found a couple puncture wounds, on his back. This evening, my husband took both dogs for their daily walk and Nick ran ahead of him. When he caught up to him, he found him straddling a baby fawn, that he had just killed (while the mother stood nearby and watched). This is such unacceptable behavior that I am at a loss as to what to do. This dog is perfect in every other way. He has never been aggressive to any person, has never had accidents in the house, we live near a road, which he never attempts to go on. He doesn't lack attention. We have an in-ground pool that he has total access to, at all times, and he loves. I just don't know what to do. My husband and I both dearly love this dog, but do not feel that he can be trusted. I just don't know what triggers his aggressive actions. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, delete owners name I know this thread is old, but training your dog is the only long-term solution, OP. I love my dog so much but it constantly did the things that irked me most. It would chew on things that it shouldn’t or jump up and down out of the blue. Whenever I put on the leash, it would pull on it. Whenever it was out of the house, it would continue digging on the ground - I wish I could tell what it was looking for down there. The same goes for all the nasty urine. All the things it did left me feeling depressed as if I failed it monumentally. But since I discovered Brain Training for Dogs and applied the system offered, it now behaves the way a beautiful dog I always expect of 🶠Here's a link to their site: http://hiddendogintelligence.club/ Good luck! |
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This is a behavior that can be trained out, despite what others say. My training company Phoenix Dog Training works will aggression almost exclusively. I would be happy to help you at no cost. Please contact me privately by going to my website https://PhoenixDogTraining.com and filling out a contact form. please comment that we messaged on Dog Banter
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