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Larnygeal paralysis - type of food post surgery help
Hello all!
I am so glad I came across this group. I initially posted this question in the dog behavior group before I found the dog health group, so I apologize for the repeat! My cane corso, Lily, had the tie back surgery for laryngeal paralysis about a year and a half ago. The surgery went very well and she is doing great, thank goodness! My question for others with experience or knowledge of this procedure is does the dog have to eat canned food for the rest of her life? The specialist who performed the operation told me canned food, but other vets have said she can go back to dry food by now. In my other searches, I have also found both answers! Lily actually prefers dry food and she is only 5 now, so I worry about her teeth with canned food for many years to come. Plus, at 120 lbs, it costs a LOT to feed her canned food! Any input on your experiences would be very helpful. Thanks so much! Sloan |
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Larnygeal paralysis - type of food post surgery help
sloan88 wrote:
Hello all! I am so glad I came across this group. I initially posted this question in the dog behavior group before I found the dog health group, so I apologize for the repeat! My cane corso, Lily, had the tie back surgery for laryngeal paralysis about a year and a half ago. The surgery went very well and she is doing great, thank goodness! My question for others with experience or knowledge of this procedure is does the dog have to eat canned food for the rest of her life? The specialist who performed the operation told me canned food, but other vets have said she can go back to dry food by now. In my other searches, I have also found both answers! Lily actually prefers dry food and she is only 5 now, so I worry about her teeth with canned food for many years to come. Plus, at 120 lbs, it costs a LOT to feed her canned food! Any input on your experiences would be very helpful. Thanks so much! What I have read on a LP group is that after the dog gets accustomed to eating (a few weeks following tie-back surgery), the biggest risk for aspiration pneumonia comes from inhaling material regurgitated from the stomach, not from food that's being eaten, and that it's ok to (gradually) resume the preferred diet. With Oppie (Lab, 11.5, tieback surgery 3/21/07) we soak his kibble and mix it with a little canned food, and we don't give him crunchy, crumbly food. We may be overly cautious. We do give him bully sticks to chew, and they seem to help with keeping the teeth cleaned off. This LP yahoo group has quite a few knowledgeable people and a file of informative papers by a vet with expertise about the disease. If you haven't joined it yet, I highly recommend it. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/LP/ I'm glad your dog is doing so well. Oppie is going in tomorrow for scoping and possibly more surgery - his breathing has gotten rough, and his exercise tolerance has dropped, so we're concerned that the surgery didn't hold, or scar tissue developed, or ??? FurPaw -- "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." - Dwight D. Eisenhower To reply, unleash the dog. |
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Larnygeal paralysis - type of food post surgery help
On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:06:18 -0700, FurPaw
wrote: sloan88 wrote: Hello all! I am so glad I came across this group. I initially posted this question in the dog behavior group before I found the dog health group, so I apologize for the repeat! My cane corso, Lily, had the tie back surgery for laryngeal paralysis about a year and a half ago. The surgery went very well and she is doing great, thank goodness! My question for others with experience or knowledge of this procedure is does the dog have to eat canned food for the rest of her life? The specialist who performed the operation told me canned food, but other vets have said she can go back to dry food by now. In my other searches, I have also found both answers! Lily actually prefers dry food and she is only 5 now, so I worry about her teeth with canned food for many years to come. Plus, at 120 lbs, it costs a LOT to feed her canned food! Any input on your experiences would be very helpful. Thanks so much! What I have read on a LP group is that after the dog gets accustomed to eating (a few weeks following tie-back surgery), the biggest risk for aspiration pneumonia comes from inhaling material regurgitated from the stomach, not from food that's being eaten, and that it's ok to (gradually) resume the preferred diet. With Oppie (Lab, 11.5, tieback surgery 3/21/07) we soak his kibble and mix it with a little canned food, and we don't give him crunchy, crumbly food. We may be overly cautious. We do give him bully sticks to chew, and they seem to help with keeping the teeth cleaned off. This LP yahoo group has quite a few knowledgeable people and a file of informative papers by a vet with expertise about the disease. If you haven't joined it yet, I highly recommend it. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/LP/ I'm glad your dog is doing so well. Oppie is going in tomorrow for scoping and possibly more surgery - his breathing has gotten rough, and his exercise tolerance has dropped, so we're concerned that the surgery didn't hold, or scar tissue developed, or ??? We fed Anna (Borzoi) canned food formed into balls, but that did get awfully expensive, so we started soaking kibble, putting the mess into a blender to turn it into a sort of paste, and forming that into balls. But Anna had megaesophagus as well as LP. FurPaw, best wishes for Oppie tomorrow - hope he doesn't need more surgery. Mustang Sally |
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Oppie and Larnygeal paralysis
sighthounds & siberians wrote:
FurPaw, best wishes for Oppie tomorrow - hope he doesn't need more surgery. Thanks, Sally. Well, he does, but the surgeon doesn't want to do it. She said that a second surgery is a lot riskier than the first, mainly because they have to do the other vocal cord, and it's really difficult for a right-handed surgeon to do. And most are right-handed. [And surgeons qualified to do this surgery are pretty rare in NM.] She didn't scope him - that was an option that I decided to defer, if surgery isn't a likely outcome. Instead, she put him on a low dose of prednisone, to see if it helps shrink any swelling that might be present at the site - due to stitches not holding, or scar tissue forming improperly. So if that works, and if he can live slowed but without having breathing crises, I guess that's what we'll do. If his breathing gets seriously blocked, we may try surgery anyhow. I don't know. I'm not happy, and I'm going to try to find out if there are other options. But meanwhile, we'll try the pred and see if it helps. And continue to love that big goofball who was such a good patient, even though he was Not Happy going back into that Awful Building. FurPaw -- "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." - Dwight D. Eisenhower To reply, unleash the dog. |
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Oppie and Larnygeal paralysis
On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:49:41 -0700, FurPaw
wrote: sighthounds & siberians wrote: FurPaw, best wishes for Oppie tomorrow - hope he doesn't need more surgery. Thanks, Sally. Well, he does, but the surgeon doesn't want to do it. She said that a second surgery is a lot riskier than the first, mainly because they have to do the other vocal cord, and it's really difficult for a right-handed surgeon to do. And most are right-handed. [And surgeons qualified to do this surgery are pretty rare in NM.] She didn't scope him - that was an option that I decided to defer, if surgery isn't a likely outcome. Instead, she put him on a low dose of prednisone, to see if it helps shrink any swelling that might be present at the site - due to stitches not holding, or scar tissue forming improperly. So if that works, and if he can live slowed but without having breathing crises, I guess that's what we'll do. If his breathing gets seriously blocked, we may try surgery anyhow. I don't know. I'm not happy, and I'm going to try to find out if there are other options. But meanwhile, we'll try the pred and see if it helps. And continue to love that big goofball who was such a good patient, even though he was Not Happy going back into that Awful Building. I'm really sorry to hear this. As I'm sure you know from being on the LP list, some people have tried theophylline and other bronchodilators in an effort to avoid surgery. Might be worth a shot, along with the pred. Oppie's how old now? All fingers, toes and paws crossed that non-surgical treatment can keep him stable enough. Mustang Sally |
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Larnygeal paralysis - type of food post surgery help
On Dec 4, 7:06 am, FurPaw wrote:
sloan88 wrote: Hello all! I am so glad I came across this group. I initially posted this question in the dog behavior group before I found the dog health group, so I apologize for the repeat! My cane corso, Lily, had the tie back surgery forlaryngealparalysisabout a year and a half ago. The surgery went very well and she is doing great, thank goodness! My question for others with experience or knowledge of this procedure is does the dog have to eat canned food for the rest of her life? The specialist who performed the operation told me canned food, but other vets have said she can go back to dry food by now. In my other searches, I have also found both answers! Lily actually prefers dry food and she is only 5 now, so I worry about her teeth with canned food for many years to come. Plus, at 120 lbs, it costs a LOT to feed her canned food! Any input on your experiences would be very helpful. Thanks so much! What I have read on a LP group is that after the dog gets accustomed to eating (a few weeks following tie-back surgery), the biggest risk for aspiration pneumonia comes from inhaling material regurgitated from the stomach, not from food that's being eaten, and that it's ok to (gradually) resume the preferred diet. With Oppie (Lab, 11.5, tieback surgery 3/21/07) we soak his kibble and mix it with a little canned food, and we don't give him crunchy, crumbly food. We may be overly cautious. We do give him bully sticks to chew, and they seem to help with keeping the teeth cleaned off. This LP yahoo group has quite a few knowledgeable people and a file of informative papers by a vet with expertise about the disease. If you haven't joined it yet, I highly recommend it.http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/LP/ I'm glad your dog is doing so well. Oppie is going in tomorrow for scoping and possibly more surgery - his breathing has gotten rough, and his exercise tolerance has dropped, so we're concerned that the surgery didn't hold, or scar tissue developed, or ??? FurPaw -- "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." - Dwight D. Eisenhower To reply, unleash the dog. Thank you so much for your help - I greatly appreciate it! I certainly hope that Oppie checks out okay. Please keep me posted as to the outcome - I hope his tie did not come out! Good luck! |
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