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Old December 4th 07, 02:12 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
sloan88
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Default Larnygeal paralysis - type of food post surgery help

Hello all!
I am so glad I came across this group. I initially posted this
question in the dog behavior group before I found the dog health
group, so I apologize for the repeat! My cane corso, Lily, had the
tie back surgery for laryngeal paralysis about a year and a half ago.
The surgery went very well and she is doing great, thank goodness!
My
question for others with experience or knowledge of this procedure is
does the dog have to eat canned food for the rest of her life? The
specialist who performed the operation told me canned food, but other
vets have said she can go back to dry food by now. In my other
searches, I have also found both answers! Lily actually prefers dry
food and she is only 5 now, so I worry about her teeth with canned
food for many years to come. Plus, at 120 lbs, it costs a LOT to
feed
her canned food! Any input on your experiences would be very
helpful. Thanks so much!
Sloan
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Old December 4th 07, 04:06 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
FurPaw
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Default Larnygeal paralysis - type of food post surgery help

sloan88 wrote:
Hello all!
I am so glad I came across this group. I initially posted this
question in the dog behavior group before I found the dog health
group, so I apologize for the repeat! My cane corso, Lily, had the
tie back surgery for laryngeal paralysis about a year and a half ago.
The surgery went very well and she is doing great, thank goodness!
My
question for others with experience or knowledge of this procedure is
does the dog have to eat canned food for the rest of her life? The
specialist who performed the operation told me canned food, but other
vets have said she can go back to dry food by now. In my other
searches, I have also found both answers! Lily actually prefers dry
food and she is only 5 now, so I worry about her teeth with canned
food for many years to come. Plus, at 120 lbs, it costs a LOT to
feed
her canned food! Any input on your experiences would be very
helpful. Thanks so much!


What I have read on a LP group is that after the dog gets
accustomed to eating (a few weeks following tie-back surgery),
the biggest risk for aspiration pneumonia comes from inhaling
material regurgitated from the stomach, not from food that's
being eaten, and that it's ok to (gradually) resume the preferred
diet.

With Oppie (Lab, 11.5, tieback surgery 3/21/07) we soak his
kibble and mix it with a little canned food, and we don't give
him crunchy, crumbly food. We may be overly cautious. We do
give him bully sticks to chew, and they seem to help with keeping
the teeth cleaned off.

This LP yahoo group has quite a few knowledgeable people and a
file of informative papers by a vet with expertise about the
disease. If you haven't joined it yet, I highly recommend it.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/LP/

I'm glad your dog is doing so well.

Oppie is going in tomorrow for scoping and possibly more surgery
- his breathing has gotten rough, and his exercise tolerance has
dropped, so we're concerned that the surgery didn't hold, or scar
tissue developed, or ???

FurPaw

--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

To reply, unleash the dog.
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Old December 4th 07, 05:32 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
sighthounds & siberians
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Default Larnygeal paralysis - type of food post surgery help

On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:06:18 -0700, FurPaw
wrote:

sloan88 wrote:
Hello all!
I am so glad I came across this group. I initially posted this
question in the dog behavior group before I found the dog health
group, so I apologize for the repeat! My cane corso, Lily, had the
tie back surgery for laryngeal paralysis about a year and a half ago.
The surgery went very well and she is doing great, thank goodness!
My
question for others with experience or knowledge of this procedure is
does the dog have to eat canned food for the rest of her life? The
specialist who performed the operation told me canned food, but other
vets have said she can go back to dry food by now. In my other
searches, I have also found both answers! Lily actually prefers dry
food and she is only 5 now, so I worry about her teeth with canned
food for many years to come. Plus, at 120 lbs, it costs a LOT to
feed
her canned food! Any input on your experiences would be very
helpful. Thanks so much!


What I have read on a LP group is that after the dog gets
accustomed to eating (a few weeks following tie-back surgery),
the biggest risk for aspiration pneumonia comes from inhaling
material regurgitated from the stomach, not from food that's
being eaten, and that it's ok to (gradually) resume the preferred
diet.

With Oppie (Lab, 11.5, tieback surgery 3/21/07) we soak his
kibble and mix it with a little canned food, and we don't give
him crunchy, crumbly food. We may be overly cautious. We do
give him bully sticks to chew, and they seem to help with keeping
the teeth cleaned off.

This LP yahoo group has quite a few knowledgeable people and a
file of informative papers by a vet with expertise about the
disease. If you haven't joined it yet, I highly recommend it.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/LP/

I'm glad your dog is doing so well.

Oppie is going in tomorrow for scoping and possibly more surgery
- his breathing has gotten rough, and his exercise tolerance has
dropped, so we're concerned that the surgery didn't hold, or scar
tissue developed, or ???


We fed Anna (Borzoi) canned food formed into balls, but that did get
awfully expensive, so we started soaking kibble, putting the mess into
a blender to turn it into a sort of paste, and forming that into
balls. But Anna had megaesophagus as well as LP.

FurPaw, best wishes for Oppie tomorrow - hope he doesn't need more
surgery.

Mustang Sally

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Old December 6th 07, 01:49 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
FurPaw
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Default Oppie and Larnygeal paralysis

sighthounds & siberians wrote:

FurPaw, best wishes for Oppie tomorrow - hope he doesn't need more
surgery.


Thanks, Sally.

Well, he does, but the surgeon doesn't want to do it. She said
that a second surgery is a lot riskier than the first, mainly
because they have to do the other vocal cord, and it's really
difficult for a right-handed surgeon to do. And most are
right-handed. [And surgeons qualified to do this surgery are
pretty rare in NM.]

She didn't scope him - that was an option that I decided to
defer, if surgery isn't a likely outcome. Instead, she put him
on a low dose of prednisone, to see if it helps shrink any
swelling that might be present at the site - due to stitches not
holding, or scar tissue forming improperly.

So if that works, and if he can live slowed but without having
breathing crises, I guess that's what we'll do. If his breathing
gets seriously blocked, we may try surgery anyhow. I don't know.

I'm not happy, and I'm going to try to find out if there are
other options. But meanwhile, we'll try the pred and see if it
helps. And continue to love that big goofball who was such a
good patient, even though he was Not Happy going back into that
Awful Building.

FurPaw

--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

To reply, unleash the dog.
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Old December 6th 07, 03:20 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
sighthounds & siberians
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Default Oppie and Larnygeal paralysis

On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:49:41 -0700, FurPaw
wrote:

sighthounds & siberians wrote:

FurPaw, best wishes for Oppie tomorrow - hope he doesn't need more
surgery.


Thanks, Sally.

Well, he does, but the surgeon doesn't want to do it. She said
that a second surgery is a lot riskier than the first, mainly
because they have to do the other vocal cord, and it's really
difficult for a right-handed surgeon to do. And most are
right-handed. [And surgeons qualified to do this surgery are
pretty rare in NM.]

She didn't scope him - that was an option that I decided to
defer, if surgery isn't a likely outcome. Instead, she put him
on a low dose of prednisone, to see if it helps shrink any
swelling that might be present at the site - due to stitches not
holding, or scar tissue forming improperly.

So if that works, and if he can live slowed but without having
breathing crises, I guess that's what we'll do. If his breathing
gets seriously blocked, we may try surgery anyhow. I don't know.

I'm not happy, and I'm going to try to find out if there are
other options. But meanwhile, we'll try the pred and see if it
helps. And continue to love that big goofball who was such a
good patient, even though he was Not Happy going back into that
Awful Building.


I'm really sorry to hear this. As I'm sure you know from being on the
LP list, some people have tried theophylline and other bronchodilators
in an effort to avoid surgery. Might be worth a shot, along with the
pred. Oppie's how old now?

All fingers, toes and paws crossed that non-surgical treatment can
keep him stable enough.

Mustang Sally

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Old December 6th 07, 05:16 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
sloan88
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Default Larnygeal paralysis - type of food post surgery help

On Dec 4, 7:06 am, FurPaw wrote:
sloan88 wrote:
Hello all!
I am so glad I came across this group. I initially posted this
question in the dog behavior group before I found the dog health
group, so I apologize for the repeat! My cane corso, Lily, had the
tie back surgery forlaryngealparalysisabout a year and a half ago.
The surgery went very well and she is doing great, thank goodness!
My
question for others with experience or knowledge of this procedure is
does the dog have to eat canned food for the rest of her life? The
specialist who performed the operation told me canned food, but other
vets have said she can go back to dry food by now. In my other
searches, I have also found both answers! Lily actually prefers dry
food and she is only 5 now, so I worry about her teeth with canned
food for many years to come. Plus, at 120 lbs, it costs a LOT to
feed
her canned food! Any input on your experiences would be very
helpful. Thanks so much!


What I have read on a LP group is that after the dog gets
accustomed to eating (a few weeks following tie-back surgery),
the biggest risk for aspiration pneumonia comes from inhaling
material regurgitated from the stomach, not from food that's
being eaten, and that it's ok to (gradually) resume the preferred
diet.

With Oppie (Lab, 11.5, tieback surgery 3/21/07) we soak his
kibble and mix it with a little canned food, and we don't give
him crunchy, crumbly food. We may be overly cautious. We do
give him bully sticks to chew, and they seem to help with keeping
the teeth cleaned off.

This LP yahoo group has quite a few knowledgeable people and a
file of informative papers by a vet with expertise about the
disease. If you haven't joined it yet, I highly recommend it.http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/LP/

I'm glad your dog is doing so well.

Oppie is going in tomorrow for scoping and possibly more surgery
- his breathing has gotten rough, and his exercise tolerance has
dropped, so we're concerned that the surgery didn't hold, or scar
tissue developed, or ???

FurPaw

--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

To reply, unleash the dog.


Thank you so much for your help - I greatly appreciate it! I
certainly hope that Oppie checks out okay. Please keep me posted as
to the outcome - I hope his tie did not come out! Good luck!
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Hello all!
I am so glad I came across this group. I initially posted this
question in the dog behavior group before I found the dog health
group, so I apologize for the repeat! My cane corso, Lily, had the
tie back surgery for laryngeal paralysis about a year and a half ago.
The surgery went very well and she is doing great, thank goodness!
My
question for others with experience or knowledge of this procedure is
does the dog have to eat canned food for the rest of her life? The
specialist who performed the operation told me canned food, but other
vets have said she can go back to dry food by now. In my other
searches, I have also found both answers! Lily actually prefers dry
food and she is only 5 now, so I worry about her teeth with canned
food for many years to come. Plus, at 120 lbs, it costs a LOT to
feed
her canned food! Any input on your experiences would be very
helpful. Thanks so much!
Sloan
thanks no prob" glad to here lily is better cheers"
 




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