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  #11  
Old December 1st 12, 12:00 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On 11/30/2012 4:54 PM, Jo Wolf wrote:
Seligiline will be a prescripiton drug. Generic availability doesn't
mean it changed category.... just that it's cheaper.

Some generics are caps. I want tabs. And yes I realized it was a
scripted drug after I got home. I don't know what my vet was thinking
telling me to go to Walmart when he hadn't written one!

If it's not cheaper locally then I'll get it online. I don't need a
script at inhousepharmacy.com. And yes I trust it as people I know have
been using it for years.

buglady
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Old December 2nd 12, 12:13 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On 11/30/2012 3:29 PM, buglady wrote:
A friend of mine used Tranxene for a thunder phobic dog who was totally
out of control in those situations.
You can get the generic Clorazepate at a human pharmacy. It's off label
use in dogs.
Her vet was so impressed with it he started using it in situations of
cognitive issues. Has to be carefully dosed not to sedate too much.

She also said that selegiline has a side effect of nausea, and too many
dogs refuse to eat after being on it for a while. So, whatever you get,
don't get much of it or you'll be stuck with it if it's not suitable for
your dog. Make them give you a small amount with automatic refills.

She also said Clomicalm should be avoided and that most vets don't think
much of it.

Besides the links for Tranxene I collected a bunch more reading sites.
Last night was bad in my household. Pacing and panting for 2 hours
straight. She was so stressed out.

http://www.petplace.com/drug-library...ene/page1.aspx
Article by Nicholas Dodman

http://zooveterinary.com/veterinary-...te-dipotassium

http://www.holisticanimalmedicines.c...-dementia.html

http://www.swif****erfarms.com/swift...ysfunction.htm

buglady
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Old December 4th 12, 05:36 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Jo Wolf" wrote in message
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Has he been evaluated for a slipped disc? These are very common in
long-backed dogs, to include Dachshund mixes.... That Could account for
the rear leg symptoms..... and so could the arthritis.

A ultrasound of the liver is a lot less expensive than a liver biopsy,
and Much less stressful on the dog, as it would require anesthesia....
and anesthesia needs good liver function to clear the drug from the
body.

His changed mental status could be caused by poor liver function, but is
usually seen late in the disease. It can also be caused by
deterioration of cognitive function.... "alzheimer's" which is seen in
some older dogs. Anipryl is sometimes used to treat this.... or attempt
to treat.

Kidney failure in older dogs is progressive. The speed of deterioration
can sometimes be slowed.

But it is time to sit down and give serious thought.... and discussion
with your vet.... about quality of life and comfort.... and to the point
that you are willing to continue to allow this grand old guy to suffer.
And how much money you are willing and able to put into just prolonging
his life.... for your emotional needs. The longer I live with dogs, the
shorter the time I accept for them to continue with an ever
deteriorating quality of life.... that they don't understand.... before
I release them from than suffering.

This summer I had a case of denial about the rapid deterioration of my
17 year old terrier. I should have euthanized him at least 1-2 months
before he died a horrible death a few minutes after I woke in the AM....
gasping for air.... I don't want any of my dogs to suffer just because
it's going to be painful for me to no longer have them in my life. I
hope I would never be so utterly selfish again......

Think about this, and make your decision about when you will say he's
had enough. Then act on it when he reaches that point.

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia, USA


Yes, but to be honest I think the OP will ignore you.











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Old December 5th 12, 09:37 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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No, she's indicated more sensitivity and knowledge of dogs than that.
And the idea has been planted.... She'll do the right thing for her
dog.

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia, USA

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Old December 11th 12, 07:54 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Jo Wolf" wrote in message
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No, she's indicated more sensitivity and knowledge of dogs than that.
And the idea has been planted.... She'll do the right thing for her
dog.

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia, USA


She has not replied.




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Old December 12th 12, 01:45 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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I did not see anything from you Mr. Pounder that warranted a response from me. I have been around various groups for over 15 years and can clearly see a group's dynamic after reading the responses for awhile. Sorry but l'm not going to be drawn into the middle of what is going on between the participants here (it appears to be long standing) over what is always a difficult decision I.e. treatment vs euthanasia despite your attempt at provoking me by having a side conversation with another poster about me. A tactic I have seen (and even done myself on occasion) many times before. Much too much going on in my life at the moment to engage in that nonsense.
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Old December 12th 12, 02:20 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On 12/11/2012 1:54 PM, Mr Pounder wrote:

She has not replied.

..............To what? I didn't see anything to reply to.

buglady
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Old December 12th 12, 02:17 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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And I only brought up euthanasia because I was not familiar with the
poster, and there are pet owners who will stretch out the "life" far
beyond any resemblance of quality of life simply because they cannot
face allowing the poor dog to die. Once knew a lady who hand-fed....
force-fed.... one of her Very elderly dogs that could no longer eat from
a dish or plate, or stand or walk..... for two years.... It was all
about Her, not the dog.

This poster is much more knowledgeable than her first post showed.....
She will do "right" by this dog.... when the time comes.

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia, USA

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Old December 12th 12, 03:02 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Jo Wolf" wrote in message
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And I only brought up euthanasia because I was not familiar with the
poster, and there are pet owners who will stretch out the "life" far
beyond any resemblance of quality of life simply because they cannot
face allowing the poor dog to die. Once knew a lady who hand-fed....
force-fed.... one of her Very elderly dogs that could no longer eat from
a dish or plate, or stand or walk..... for two years.... It was all
about Her, not the dog.

This poster is much more knowledgeable than her first post showed.....
She will do "right" by this dog.... when the time comes.

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia, USA


Including having a go at me and the "side poster"?
We both know that she could be a little nuts.






 




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