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FS Jack Russell Puppies
Jack Russell Puppies for sale
These dogs make great pets, are very intelligent, and need a lot of personal contact. Mine go everywhere with me, the post office, the bank, lumber yards, etc. They are easy to train. They are not for people that work outside their home as they do not like being left alone. They also need room to run. They will get along with cats if raised with them. While they like to sleep in bed with you they are not bed hogs. The tend to borough under the covers and sleep at the foot of the bed. These puppies are 11 weeks old, dew claws removed, tails docked, wormed, and all puppy shots. They are short legged, short haired, and brown and white in color. A couple have black around the eyes. $275 each. ROCKY Rocky has the shortest legs of the bunch, is stocky, and has a lot of black around his eyes. He is very active. His picture is at: http://www.beesinabottle.com/D1.JPG LITTLE BOB Little Bob is the smallest of the bunch but let his size fool you. He is a stick of dynamite on four legs and is nonstop once he wakes up. He is going to be a handful but with the right person he will be the perfect pet. His picture can be seen at: http://www.beesinabottle.com/D2.JPG MOOSE Moose is the biggest in the litter and the most laid back. He is like an old hound dog and likes to be held. He would make a perfect companion for someone older. His picture can be seen at: http://www.beesinabottle.com/D3.JPG BRIGHT EYES Bright Eyes has white around his eyes. He is the most reserved of the group and is very loving. He likes to be held and gives lots of kisses. His picture can be seen at: http://www.beesinabottle.com/D4.JPG NAPOLEON Napoleon has a lot of brown on his head and is extremely attentive of his surroundings. He is very regal looking, calm, and seems to be very intelligent. His picture can be seen at: http://www.beesinabottle.com/D5.JPG These puppies have been raised in our house and they go outside daily to play. Both parents are here at the farm and can be seen as well. Bob, the father, is very good with children. Libby, the mother, has a good temperament as well. I live in Southern Maryland. If you live a good distance away I am willing to meet you somewhere to shorten your drive. Greg & Michelle Ferris 301 743-5933 |
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beekeep wrote: Jack Russell Puppies for sale These dogs make great pets, are very intelligent, and need a lot of personal contact. Mine go everywhere with me, the post office, the bank, lumber yards, etc. They are easy to train. They are not for people that work outside their home as they do not like being left alone. They also need room to run. They will get along with cats if raised with them. While they like to sleep in bed with you they are not bed hogs. The tend to borough under the covers and sleep at the foot of the bed. These puppies are 11 weeks old, dew claws removed, tails docked, wormed, and all puppy shots. They are short legged, short haired, and brown and white in color. A couple have black around the eyes. $275 each. Ummm... I don't see any mention of breed registry. Of course, I'm sure these are pedigreed puppies with a known genetic background, right? Are the parents registered with the JRTCA, AKC or UKC? You don't mention any titles on the parents. Have they been shown? Ever competed in any performance events? If they haven't been shown in conformation, how well do they match the breed standard? You say they make great pets. So tell me, are they "great pets" for apartment-dwellers? Or for someone who raises chickens and wants their dog to run loose on their farm? For someone in a subdivision without a fenced yard? For someone with a newborn child? For someone who owns another feisty breed, especially of the same sex? The JRTCA says: (from: http://www.terrier.com/breed/baddog.php3 ) Jack Russell Terriers ... are often aggressive with other dogs. Same-sex aggression and aggression towards other breeds of dogs is well documented with this terrier. It is strongly recommended that no more than two Jack Russells (of opposite sex only) ever be permitted to stay together unattended. .... require firm, consistent discipline. They are extremely intelligent, continue to test their limits throughout their life. More often than not, train their owners before the owner knows what has happened! This ability to train their owners can include displays of aggressive behavior. Their assertive nature must be understood and handled properly! .... require at least basic obedience training. The dog's life may depend on it! Even well trained dogs will be tempted to chase something interesting, or even disappear into a hole while you are not looking. Off-lead is always a dangerous situation for a Jack Russell unless in a safe environment with experienced JR owners. .... among other things. You say they will get along with cats if raised with them. YOURS may, but I've read too many horror stories of these high-drive dogs killing their best feline friends to accept that. The JRTCA says this: Jack Russell Terriers ... are commonly known to harass, injure or kill other small pets, such as cats, birds, rabbits, mice, rats, etc., simply due to their strong natural hunting instinct. Raising a puppy with a cat does not guarantee the cat's life-long safety! You say the dew claws and tails have been done, and they've had their shots and been wormed. Have they been microchipped, so you can take responsibility for them if they wind up in a shelter? Since deafness is so prevalent in the breed, have the puppies been BAER tested? Do both parents have bi-lateral hearing? Have the parents been CERF'ed? You say the parents are great with children, implying that the puppies will be. Here's what the JRTCA says about Jacks and kids: Jack Russell Terriers ... will NOT TOLERATE even unintended mistreatment from a child. They will not put up with typical child handling such as pulling of ears, tails, etc., or taking or "sharing" of the dog's bones, food, toys, etc. They are very assertive and demanding, and never still... jumping all over whoever will allow it. Jack Russells are not recommended for households with children under the age of six unless you are previously experienced with this feisty little bundle of energy. You don't mention any sales contract, any health guarantee, any spay/neuter requirement, any application process or screening for potential buyers. It can't be that you're just going to sell these high-drive, assertive and potentially aggressive dogs to anyone who comes forward with cash in hand, can it? Certainly you are going to carefully SCREEN a potential puppy buyer, aren't you? Even if you're not affiliated with the JRTCA, you will be following their breeders Code of Ethics or something similar, won't you? http://www.terrier.com/jrtca/ethics.php3 This isn't all Greek to you, is it? Surely you are an ethical breeder who is breeding carefully planned litters to improve the breed, for the love of the breed, and not just putting a male and a female together to make some pups that you can sell on the Internet for Christmas money, right? Right? Tracy |
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They don't conform to the breed standard if they are short-legged, do they?
"Tracy Doyle" wrote in message ... beekeep wrote: Jack Russell Puppies for sale These dogs make great pets, are very intelligent, and need a lot of personal contact. Mine go everywhere with me, the post office, the bank, lumber yards, etc. They are easy to train. They are not for people that work outside their home as they do not like being left alone. They also need room to run. They will get along with cats if raised with them. While they like to sleep in bed with you they are not bed hogs. The tend to borough under the covers and sleep at the foot of the bed. These puppies are 11 weeks old, dew claws removed, tails docked, wormed, and all puppy shots. They are short legged, short haired, and brown and white in color. A couple have black around the eyes. $275 each. Ummm... I don't see any mention of breed registry. Of course, I'm sure these are pedigreed puppies with a known genetic background, right? Are the parents registered with the JRTCA, AKC or UKC? You don't mention any titles on the parents. Have they been shown? Ever competed in any performance events? If they haven't been shown in conformation, how well do they match the breed standard? You say they make great pets. So tell me, are they "great pets" for apartment-dwellers? Or for someone who raises chickens and wants their dog to run loose on their farm? For someone in a subdivision without a fenced yard? For someone with a newborn child? For someone who owns another feisty breed, especially of the same sex? The JRTCA says: (from: http://www.terrier.com/breed/baddog.php3 ) Jack Russell Terriers ... are often aggressive with other dogs. Same-sex aggression and aggression towards other breeds of dogs is well documented with this terrier. It is strongly recommended that no more than two Jack Russells (of opposite sex only) ever be permitted to stay together unattended. ... require firm, consistent discipline. They are extremely intelligent, continue to test their limits throughout their life. More often than not, train their owners before the owner knows what has happened! This ability to train their owners can include displays of aggressive behavior. Their assertive nature must be understood and handled properly! ... require at least basic obedience training. The dog's life may depend on it! Even well trained dogs will be tempted to chase something interesting, or even disappear into a hole while you are not looking. Off-lead is always a dangerous situation for a Jack Russell unless in a safe environment with experienced JR owners. ... among other things. You say they will get along with cats if raised with them. YOURS may, but I've read too many horror stories of these high-drive dogs killing their best feline friends to accept that. The JRTCA says this: Jack Russell Terriers ... are commonly known to harass, injure or kill other small pets, such as cats, birds, rabbits, mice, rats, etc., simply due to their strong natural hunting instinct. Raising a puppy with a cat does not guarantee the cat's life-long safety! You say the dew claws and tails have been done, and they've had their shots and been wormed. Have they been microchipped, so you can take responsibility for them if they wind up in a shelter? Since deafness is so prevalent in the breed, have the puppies been BAER tested? Do both parents have bi-lateral hearing? Have the parents been CERF'ed? You say the parents are great with children, implying that the puppies will be. Here's what the JRTCA says about Jacks and kids: Jack Russell Terriers ... will NOT TOLERATE even unintended mistreatment from a child. They will not put up with typical child handling such as pulling of ears, tails, etc., or taking or "sharing" of the dog's bones, food, toys, etc. They are very assertive and demanding, and never still... jumping all over whoever will allow it. Jack Russells are not recommended for households with children under the age of six unless you are previously experienced with this feisty little bundle of energy. You don't mention any sales contract, any health guarantee, any spay/neuter requirement, any application process or screening for potential buyers. It can't be that you're just going to sell these high-drive, assertive and potentially aggressive dogs to anyone who comes forward with cash in hand, can it? Certainly you are going to carefully SCREEN a potential puppy buyer, aren't you? Even if you're not affiliated with the JRTCA, you will be following their breeders Code of Ethics or something similar, won't you? http://www.terrier.com/jrtca/ethics.php3 This isn't all Greek to you, is it? Surely you are an ethical breeder who is breeding carefully planned litters to improve the breed, for the love of the breed, and not just putting a male and a female together to make some pups that you can sell on the Internet for Christmas money, right? Right? Tracy |
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dejablues wrote: They don't conform to the breed standard if they are short-legged, do they? Well, whaddya know! I'm not all that familiar with Jacks except that I helped a friend of mine talk her inexperienced neighbor out of getting one (trust me, she wasn't prepared!). But you're right... Scroll down to the bottom of the page: http://www.jackrussellsa.co.za/info_breedstandards.htm Sigh... Tracy |
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"dejablues" wrote in message ... They don't conform to the breed standard if they are short-legged, do they? Depends on what breed standard you're using, actually- and you have to understand that as far as Jack Russells in the U.S. are concerned, there WAS no such thing as a "breed standard" until the JRTCA was formed in the early 1970's. Furthermore, no major multi-breed registry "recognized" Jack Russells, or any variant thereof, until the 1990's. The only legitimate breed registries in the U.S. for Jack Russell Terriers are the the JRTCA and the UKC. The AKC registers a breed called the Parson Russell Terrier, which is derived from Jack Russell stock but has a narrower breed standard & more limited gene pool. None of the three register short-legged dogs, nor do those dogs fit the breed standards of any of the three. However, the UKC *does* register a breed called Russell Terriers, which AFAICT are shortie Jacks by another name. There is also at least one stand-alone registry for shortie Jacks, called the EJRTCA - "E" standing for "English". (Shortie Jacks are often marketed as "English" or "Irish" Jack Russells, despite the fact that there's no real legitimacy to the term.) None of this negates the fact that it's perfectly legitimate to call the short-legged variety Jack Russell Terriers; it's just that there's really no such thing as a registered short-leg Jack. |
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"dejablues" wrote in
: They don't conform to the breed standard if they are short-legged, do they? I believe that depends on which club's breed standard you are looking at. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ Lisa Baird - Haleakala PWDs "Truly" - CH Fantaseas Truly Scrumptious, CD, AAD, AX, NAJ "Havoc" - Stargazer Come Hell'R HiWater (puppy with promise!) Wiley MAD, SM, JM, RM - Beloved All American Buckeye Region Agility Group http://www.bragagility.com/ PAWZitive Beginnings Dog Training, LLC http://www.pawzitivebeginnings.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ |
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:47:45 -0500 dejablues whittled these words:
They don't conform to the breed standard if they are short-legged, do they? They don't conform to *which* breed standard? There are several of them. At least one recognizes the short legged variety, although possibly they have also renamed them. http://www.ejrtca.com/standard.html Diane Blackman |
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My friends in the JRTCA and "shudder" at shorty Jacks. Oh well.
Jo Wolf wrote: The registries set the standard of form and function for breeds. Period. Anything else is a "type", NOT a "breed". Some breeds have so few dogs that they self-register (although eligible for UKC registration and some of the wanna=be registries) through their breed club (JRTCA is one of the largest of these, and there's the Boykin Spaniel, plus many rare breeds)... but they, too, have standards to describe what the dogs is, looks like and does. Shows give the breeder or owner the opportunity to find out from an outside source... judges... how closely the dog matches the standard. There are actually a couple of breed club/registries for the short-legged JRTs. Two of these clubs are suing each other for their "rights" to the "breed". They are commonly called Puddin's in the vernacular. When I first read this ad, I shuddered and refrained from comment, because I could not have been polite. My friends in Jack Russel rescue are worked off their feet because of breeders advertising in such a fraudulent manner.... Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia |
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Do you look down upon dogs that aren't show dogs?
"Tracy Doyle" wrote in message ... beekeep wrote: Jack Russell Puppies for sale These dogs make great pets, are very intelligent, and need a lot of personal contact. Mine go everywhere with me, the post office, the bank, lumber yards, etc. They are easy to train. They are not for people that work outside their home as they do not like being left alone. They also need room to run. They will get along with cats if raised with them. While they like to sleep in bed with you they are not bed hogs. The tend to borough under the covers and sleep at the foot of the bed. These puppies are 11 weeks old, dew claws removed, tails docked, wormed, and all puppy shots. They are short legged, short haired, and brown and white in color. A couple have black around the eyes. $275 each. Ummm... I don't see any mention of breed registry. Of course, I'm sure these are pedigreed puppies with a known genetic background, right? Are the parents registered with the JRTCA, AKC or UKC? You don't mention any titles on the parents. Have they been shown? Ever competed in any performance events? If they haven't been shown in conformation, how well do they match the breed standard? You say they make great pets. So tell me, are they "great pets" for apartment-dwellers? Or for someone who raises chickens and wants their dog to run loose on their farm? For someone in a subdivision without a fenced yard? For someone with a newborn child? For someone who owns another feisty breed, especially of the same sex? The JRTCA says: (from: http://www.terrier.com/breed/baddog.php3 ) Jack Russell Terriers ... are often aggressive with other dogs. Same-sex aggression and aggression towards other breeds of dogs is well documented with this terrier. It is strongly recommended that no more than two Jack Russells (of opposite sex only) ever be permitted to stay together unattended. ... require firm, consistent discipline. They are extremely intelligent, continue to test their limits throughout their life. More often than not, train their owners before the owner knows what has happened! This ability to train their owners can include displays of aggressive behavior. Their assertive nature must be understood and handled properly! ... require at least basic obedience training. The dog's life may depend on it! Even well trained dogs will be tempted to chase something interesting, or even disappear into a hole while you are not looking. Off-lead is always a dangerous situation for a Jack Russell unless in a safe environment with experienced JR owners. ... among other things. You say they will get along with cats if raised with them. YOURS may, but I've read too many horror stories of these high-drive dogs killing their best feline friends to accept that. The JRTCA says this: Jack Russell Terriers ... are commonly known to harass, injure or kill other small pets, such as cats, birds, rabbits, mice, rats, etc., simply due to their strong natural hunting instinct. Raising a puppy with a cat does not guarantee the cat's life-long safety! You say the dew claws and tails have been done, and they've had their shots and been wormed. Have they been microchipped, so you can take responsibility for them if they wind up in a shelter? Since deafness is so prevalent in the breed, have the puppies been BAER tested? Do both parents have bi-lateral hearing? Have the parents been CERF'ed? You say the parents are great with children, implying that the puppies will be. Here's what the JRTCA says about Jacks and kids: Jack Russell Terriers ... will NOT TOLERATE even unintended mistreatment from a child. They will not put up with typical child handling such as pulling of ears, tails, etc., or taking or "sharing" of the dog's bones, food, toys, etc. They are very assertive and demanding, and never still... jumping all over whoever will allow it. Jack Russells are not recommended for households with children under the age of six unless you are previously experienced with this feisty little bundle of energy. You don't mention any sales contract, any health guarantee, any spay/neuter requirement, any application process or screening for potential buyers. It can't be that you're just going to sell these high-drive, assertive and potentially aggressive dogs to anyone who comes forward with cash in hand, can it? Certainly you are going to carefully SCREEN a potential puppy buyer, aren't you? Even if you're not affiliated with the JRTCA, you will be following their breeders Code of Ethics or something similar, won't you? http://www.terrier.com/jrtca/ethics.php3 This isn't all Greek to you, is it? Surely you are an ethical breeder who is breeding carefully planned litters to improve the breed, for the love of the breed, and not just putting a male and a female together to make some pups that you can sell on the Internet for Christmas money, right? Right? Tracy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.542 / Virus Database: 336 - Release Date: 11/18/2003 |
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The registries set the standard of form and function for breeds.
Period. Anything else is a "type", NOT a "breed". Some breeds have so few dogs that they self-register (although eligible for UKC registration and some of the wanna=be registries) through their breed club (JRTCA is one of the largest of these, and there's the Boykin Spaniel, plus many rare breeds)... but they, too, have standards to describe what the dogs is, looks like and does. Shows give the breeder or owner the opportunity to find out from an outside source... judges... how closely the dog matches the standard. There are actually a couple of breed club/registries for the short-legged JRTs. Two of these clubs are suing each other for their "rights" to the "breed". They are commonly called Puddin's in the vernacular. When I first read this ad, I shuddered and refrained from comment, because I could not have been polite. My friends in Jack Russel rescue are worked off their feet because of breeders advertising in such a fraudulent manner.... Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia |
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