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I just talked to Maxxie
"Zsarnok" wrote in message
hlink.net... Mine love chocolate -- don't yell. Dogs love most food. That doesn't mean you should give it to them. I give them an itty bitty piece and counter it with doggie vits & flax oil. They eat better than I do. Giving your dog chocolate is neither a good thing, nor is it smart. http://members.fortunecity.com/somal...lineDiseases/C hocolate.htm QUESTION: With it being Christmas time, there's a lot of chocolate around my house, everything from cookies to miniature candy bars. I know chocolate is bad for dogs, but does anyone know WHY? I'm a pre-vet student, and I'm curious as to the physiological effects of chocolate in a dog. What is in it that is harmful, and what does that ingredient do to the dog? With two dogs in the house, and one being a puppy that chews or eats everything in sight, this would be useful information. -------------------------------------- The dangerous ingredient of chocoloate for dogs is theobromine, which is a methylxanthine and thus is chemically related to caffeine. Theobromine takes much longer to be metabolized in dogs, about 17.5 hours, than in humans. From an article in the chemistry section of about.com, "Theobromine, caffeine's chocolate cousin" http://chemistry.about.com/science/c...ekly/aa061900a. htm "In humans, theobromine has a ten-fold less stimulating effect than does caffeine. This is not the case in dogs, whose metabolic machinery removes theobromine very slowly, and who are therefore vulnerable to cardiac and central ervous system distress from this alkaloid (and from caffeine, as well). A toxic dose is estimated as between 100 to 200 milligrams of theobromine per kilogram (2.2 pounds) of a dog's body weight." From the Parvets page, "Chocolage - theobromine, further information" http://www.parkvets.com/petsandvets-...rtherinfo.html "Fatal doses of theobromine for dogs are suggested as ranging from 90-250 mg/kg though some sources report 100-500mg/kg, this suggests that there is considerable individual variation in what represents a fatal dose. But deaths have certainly been reported at the lower end of the range. Also while a dog may survive a higher dose it will probably have been seriously ill and required significant supportive care and treatment." "The LD50 is quoted as 100-300 mg/kg body weight. This is the dose that will kill 50% of the dogs eating it. 12 mg/kg causes no visible ill effects." From the page, "Chocolate Poisoning in Dogs" by Kevin Fitzgerald, Ph.D., D.V.M. http://www.apogeevideo.com/advice/article1.htm "Milk chocolate is obtained from seeds of theobroma cacao after fermentation and roasting. Milk chocolate has about 44 mg/ounce of theobromine; a 4.5 oz. milk chocolate bar has about 240 mgs. of theobromine. Unsweetened baking chocolate has even more -- about 390 to 450 mgs of theobromine per ounce." "Relative theobromine content per ounce for various products is: Milk chocolate: 44 - 60 mgs/ounce Unsweetened baking chocolate: 450 mg/oz Cacao meal: 300 - 900 mg/oz Cacao beans: 300 - 1200 mg/oz Hot chocolate: 13 mg/oz" "The lethal dosage of theobromine in dogs is between 250 and 500 mgs/kg, or about 2/3 to 1 1/3 of baking chocolate for every 2.2 pounds of body weight. However, serious non-fatal poisonings have been reported in dogs after eating smaller amounts." For more information on this: The Straight Dope, "Is chocolate poisonous to dogs?" http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_211.html ParkVets, "Chocolate, a sweet death" http://www.parkvets.com/petsandvets-chocolate.html Veterinary Information Network, "Chocolate toxicity" http://www.vin.com/mainpub/xmas/chocolate_tox.asp Janet Crosby, DVM, "Chocolate toxicity" http://vetmedicine.about.com/health/...weekly/aa02090 0a.htm I don't have saved info or time right now to search. Choc. can kill a dog and does. semii-sweet choc is 10 times worse. Get all your chocolate and immediately put it in your refrigerator. Save your self some heartache. If you ever have mice, put m&m choc. candies behind the appliance or a place your pets can't get to. Mice eat them and dehydrate and it makes them leave the house looking for water - then they die. http://www.firstaidforpets.com/drkevin/chocolate.html http://www.firstaidforpets.com/drkevin/chocolate.html Pet First Aid: Chocolate poisoning in dogs by Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald http://www.bostonterrierhealth.org/ Boston Terrier Health Site and Store Pet Care Tips: CHOCOLATE IS DANGEROUS FOR PETS Give chocolate to loved ones, and you could end up poisoning them. That is, if the loved ones are your pets. Even small amounts of theobromine, an ingredient in chocolate, can cause vomiting and restlessness in pets. Larger doses can be fatal. While most pet owners expect a dog to develop an upset stomach after eating a large amount of chocolate, few realize its toxic potential. The lethal dose of theobromine depends on the size of the dog and the type of chocolate. Ounce for ounce, baking chocolate has six to nine times as much of the substance as milk chocolate does. Estimates of the smallest amounts that can be fatal a 4 to 10 ounces of milk chocolate or 1/2 to 1 ounce of baking chocolate for small dogs, such as Chihuahuas and toy poodles. 1 to 1 1/2 pounds of milk chocolate or 2 to 3 ounces of baking chocolate for medium-sized dogs like cocker spaniels and dachshunds. 2 to 4 1/2 pounds of milk chocolate or 4 to 8 ounces of baking chocolate for large dogs, including collies and Labrador retrievers. While a very small amount of chocolate may not harm some dogs, it's safest to avoid giving it to them at all. If an accident occurs, a veterinarian should be consulted. Treatment may require inducing vomiting, stabilizing the animal's heartbeat and respiration, controlling seizures and slowing the absorption of theobromine. If the animal already is comatose, its stomach may need to be pumped. ----------------------------------- Chocolate contains theobromine and caffeine, which are both methylated alkaloids. Theobromine is the primary toxin. Both of these alkaloids are easily absorbed orally and widely spread throughout the body before being metabolized by the liver. Both also undergo renal excretion, which is more rapid in the presence of acid urine. One MOTA (method of toxic action) is inhibition of intercellular calcium sequestration. This results in a lowered threshold of stimulation for cardiac and skeletal muscle. These toxic alkaloids are also cAMP receptor antagonists, so there is increased stimulation of the CNS, vasoconstriction, tachycardia, and stimulation of the sensory cortex resulting in increased mental alertness. Dogs are more sensitive than cats, for once! In dogs, the lethal oral dose is 300 mg/kg; it's 700 mg/kg in cats. Baking chocolate contains about 400 mg/ounce, dark chocolate 150 mg/oz, milk chocolate 50 mg/oz (approximately!) Clinical signs of chocolate toxicity include: hyperactivity, restlessness, tachycardia, tachypnea, hyperreflexia, hyperthermia within 1-2 hours. These signs may be accompanied by urinary incontinence, vomiting and diarrhea, and can progress to muscle fasciculations, twitching, and terminal tetanic to convulsive seizures. Standard therapy includes detox with activated charcoal, (every 3-4 hours), gastric emptying (which can be hard to acheive since the chocolate makes a gooey mess which tends to adhere to the mucosa) and osmotic cathartics. Emetics are as always contraindicated with seizures (control seizures with diazepam or short-acting barbituates first). Supportive treatment includes promotion of renal excretion via acidification of urine, treatment of tachycardia with lidocaine (dogs only) or metoprolol (propanolol can also be used for tachyarrhymias, but it may slow renal excretion), and IV fluid support. Kidney Disease in Dogs website: symptoms, diagnosis, treatment, management (medical and dietary), recipes, breed specific renal diseases, genetics, current research, bibliography and abstracts http://www.geocities.com/jjfleisher/ Canine Renal Disease Website: mirror site of above http://www.geocities.com/slfleisher.geo/ Juvenile Renal Disease (JRD) in Standard Poodles: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/3596/jrd.html Clinical article on Juvenile Renal Disease (JRD) in Standard Poodles: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/H...nfleisher.html http://www.blarg.net/~jeffp/client-info.htm Juvenile and familial renal diseases in dogs: http://www.blarg.net/~jeffp/client-info.htm |
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"Zsarnok" wrote in message
hlink.net... Mine love chocolate -- don't yell. Dogs love most food. That doesn't mean you should give it to them. I give them an itty bitty piece and counter it with doggie vits & flax oil. They eat better than I do. Giving your dog chocolate is neither a good thing, nor is it smart. http://members.fortunecity.com/somal...lineDiseases/C hocolate.htm QUESTION: With it being Christmas time, there's a lot of chocolate around my house, everything from cookies to miniature candy bars. I know chocolate is bad for dogs, but does anyone know WHY? I'm a pre-vet student, and I'm curious as to the physiological effects of chocolate in a dog. What is in it that is harmful, and what does that ingredient do to the dog? With two dogs in the house, and one being a puppy that chews or eats everything in sight, this would be useful information. -------------------------------------- The dangerous ingredient of chocoloate for dogs is theobromine, which is a methylxanthine and thus is chemically related to caffeine. Theobromine takes much longer to be metabolized in dogs, about 17.5 hours, than in humans. From an article in the chemistry section of about.com, "Theobromine, caffeine's chocolate cousin" http://chemistry.about.com/science/c...ekly/aa061900a. htm "In humans, theobromine has a ten-fold less stimulating effect than does caffeine. This is not the case in dogs, whose metabolic machinery removes theobromine very slowly, and who are therefore vulnerable to cardiac and central ervous system distress from this alkaloid (and from caffeine, as well). A toxic dose is estimated as between 100 to 200 milligrams of theobromine per kilogram (2.2 pounds) of a dog's body weight." From the Parvets page, "Chocolage - theobromine, further information" http://www.parkvets.com/petsandvets-...rtherinfo.html "Fatal doses of theobromine for dogs are suggested as ranging from 90-250 mg/kg though some sources report 100-500mg/kg, this suggests that there is considerable individual variation in what represents a fatal dose. But deaths have certainly been reported at the lower end of the range. Also while a dog may survive a higher dose it will probably have been seriously ill and required significant supportive care and treatment." "The LD50 is quoted as 100-300 mg/kg body weight. This is the dose that will kill 50% of the dogs eating it. 12 mg/kg causes no visible ill effects." From the page, "Chocolate Poisoning in Dogs" by Kevin Fitzgerald, Ph.D., D.V.M. http://www.apogeevideo.com/advice/article1.htm "Milk chocolate is obtained from seeds of theobroma cacao after fermentation and roasting. Milk chocolate has about 44 mg/ounce of theobromine; a 4.5 oz. milk chocolate bar has about 240 mgs. of theobromine. Unsweetened baking chocolate has even more -- about 390 to 450 mgs of theobromine per ounce." "Relative theobromine content per ounce for various products is: Milk chocolate: 44 - 60 mgs/ounce Unsweetened baking chocolate: 450 mg/oz Cacao meal: 300 - 900 mg/oz Cacao beans: 300 - 1200 mg/oz Hot chocolate: 13 mg/oz" "The lethal dosage of theobromine in dogs is between 250 and 500 mgs/kg, or about 2/3 to 1 1/3 of baking chocolate for every 2.2 pounds of body weight. However, serious non-fatal poisonings have been reported in dogs after eating smaller amounts." For more information on this: The Straight Dope, "Is chocolate poisonous to dogs?" http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_211.html ParkVets, "Chocolate, a sweet death" http://www.parkvets.com/petsandvets-chocolate.html Veterinary Information Network, "Chocolate toxicity" http://www.vin.com/mainpub/xmas/chocolate_tox.asp Janet Crosby, DVM, "Chocolate toxicity" http://vetmedicine.about.com/health/...weekly/aa02090 0a.htm I don't have saved info or time right now to search. Choc. can kill a dog and does. semii-sweet choc is 10 times worse. Get all your chocolate and immediately put it in your refrigerator. Save your self some heartache. If you ever have mice, put m&m choc. candies behind the appliance or a place your pets can't get to. Mice eat them and dehydrate and it makes them leave the house looking for water - then they die. http://www.firstaidforpets.com/drkevin/chocolate.html http://www.firstaidforpets.com/drkevin/chocolate.html Pet First Aid: Chocolate poisoning in dogs by Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald http://www.bostonterrierhealth.org/ Boston Terrier Health Site and Store Pet Care Tips: CHOCOLATE IS DANGEROUS FOR PETS Give chocolate to loved ones, and you could end up poisoning them. That is, if the loved ones are your pets. Even small amounts of theobromine, an ingredient in chocolate, can cause vomiting and restlessness in pets. Larger doses can be fatal. While most pet owners expect a dog to develop an upset stomach after eating a large amount of chocolate, few realize its toxic potential. The lethal dose of theobromine depends on the size of the dog and the type of chocolate. Ounce for ounce, baking chocolate has six to nine times as much of the substance as milk chocolate does. Estimates of the smallest amounts that can be fatal a 4 to 10 ounces of milk chocolate or 1/2 to 1 ounce of baking chocolate for small dogs, such as Chihuahuas and toy poodles. 1 to 1 1/2 pounds of milk chocolate or 2 to 3 ounces of baking chocolate for medium-sized dogs like cocker spaniels and dachshunds. 2 to 4 1/2 pounds of milk chocolate or 4 to 8 ounces of baking chocolate for large dogs, including collies and Labrador retrievers. While a very small amount of chocolate may not harm some dogs, it's safest to avoid giving it to them at all. If an accident occurs, a veterinarian should be consulted. Treatment may require inducing vomiting, stabilizing the animal's heartbeat and respiration, controlling seizures and slowing the absorption of theobromine. If the animal already is comatose, its stomach may need to be pumped. ----------------------------------- Chocolate contains theobromine and caffeine, which are both methylated alkaloids. Theobromine is the primary toxin. Both of these alkaloids are easily absorbed orally and widely spread throughout the body before being metabolized by the liver. Both also undergo renal excretion, which is more rapid in the presence of acid urine. One MOTA (method of toxic action) is inhibition of intercellular calcium sequestration. This results in a lowered threshold of stimulation for cardiac and skeletal muscle. These toxic alkaloids are also cAMP receptor antagonists, so there is increased stimulation of the CNS, vasoconstriction, tachycardia, and stimulation of the sensory cortex resulting in increased mental alertness. Dogs are more sensitive than cats, for once! In dogs, the lethal oral dose is 300 mg/kg; it's 700 mg/kg in cats. Baking chocolate contains about 400 mg/ounce, dark chocolate 150 mg/oz, milk chocolate 50 mg/oz (approximately!) Clinical signs of chocolate toxicity include: hyperactivity, restlessness, tachycardia, tachypnea, hyperreflexia, hyperthermia within 1-2 hours. These signs may be accompanied by urinary incontinence, vomiting and diarrhea, and can progress to muscle fasciculations, twitching, and terminal tetanic to convulsive seizures. Standard therapy includes detox with activated charcoal, (every 3-4 hours), gastric emptying (which can be hard to acheive since the chocolate makes a gooey mess which tends to adhere to the mucosa) and osmotic cathartics. Emetics are as always contraindicated with seizures (control seizures with diazepam or short-acting barbituates first). Supportive treatment includes promotion of renal excretion via acidification of urine, treatment of tachycardia with lidocaine (dogs only) or metoprolol (propanolol can also be used for tachyarrhymias, but it may slow renal excretion), and IV fluid support. Kidney Disease in Dogs website: symptoms, diagnosis, treatment, management (medical and dietary), recipes, breed specific renal diseases, genetics, current research, bibliography and abstracts http://www.geocities.com/jjfleisher/ Canine Renal Disease Website: mirror site of above http://www.geocities.com/slfleisher.geo/ Juvenile Renal Disease (JRD) in Standard Poodles: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/3596/jrd.html Clinical article on Juvenile Renal Disease (JRD) in Standard Poodles: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/H...nfleisher.html http://www.blarg.net/~jeffp/client-info.htm Juvenile and familial renal diseases in dogs: http://www.blarg.net/~jeffp/client-info.htm |
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There is a dog in our area who ate chocolate and is now blind at a
relatively young age, specifically because he ate the chocolate. Maxie P. Diddly wrote: "Zsarnok" wrote in message hlink.net... Mine love chocolate -- don't yell. Dogs love most food. That doesn't mean you should give it to them. I give them an itty bitty piece and counter it with doggie vits & flax oil. They eat better than I do. Giving your dog chocolate is neither a good thing, nor is it smart. http://members.fortunecity.com/somal...lineDiseases/C hocolate.htm QUESTION: With it being Christmas time, there's a lot of chocolate around my house, everything from cookies to miniature candy bars. I know chocolate is bad for dogs, but does anyone know WHY? I'm a pre-vet student, and I'm curious as to the physiological effects of chocolate in a dog. What is in it that is harmful, and what does that ingredient do to the dog? With two dogs in the house, and one being a puppy that chews or eats everything in sight, this would be useful information. -------------------------------------- The dangerous ingredient of chocoloate for dogs is theobromine, which is a methylxanthine and thus is chemically related to caffeine. Theobromine takes much longer to be metabolized in dogs, about 17.5 hours, than in humans. From an article in the chemistry section of about.com, "Theobromine, caffeine's chocolate cousin" http://chemistry.about.com/science/c...ekly/aa061900a. htm "In humans, theobromine has a ten-fold less stimulating effect than does caffeine. This is not the case in dogs, whose metabolic machinery removes theobromine very slowly, and who are therefore vulnerable to cardiac and central ervous system distress from this alkaloid (and from caffeine, as well). A toxic dose is estimated as between 100 to 200 milligrams of theobromine per kilogram (2.2 pounds) of a dog's body weight." From the Parvets page, "Chocolage - theobromine, further information" http://www.parkvets.com/petsandvets-...rtherinfo.html "Fatal doses of theobromine for dogs are suggested as ranging from 90-250 mg/kg though some sources report 100-500mg/kg, this suggests that there is considerable individual variation in what represents a fatal dose. But deaths have certainly been reported at the lower end of the range. Also while a dog may survive a higher dose it will probably have been seriously ill and required significant supportive care and treatment." "The LD50 is quoted as 100-300 mg/kg body weight. This is the dose that will kill 50% of the dogs eating it. 12 mg/kg causes no visible ill effects." From the page, "Chocolate Poisoning in Dogs" by Kevin Fitzgerald, Ph.D., D.V.M. http://www.apogeevideo.com/advice/article1.htm "Milk chocolate is obtained from seeds of theobroma cacao after fermentation and roasting. Milk chocolate has about 44 mg/ounce of theobromine; a 4.5 oz. milk chocolate bar has about 240 mgs. of theobromine. Unsweetened baking chocolate has even more -- about 390 to 450 mgs of theobromine per ounce." "Relative theobromine content per ounce for various products is: Milk chocolate: 44 - 60 mgs/ounce Unsweetened baking chocolate: 450 mg/oz Cacao meal: 300 - 900 mg/oz Cacao beans: 300 - 1200 mg/oz Hot chocolate: 13 mg/oz" "The lethal dosage of theobromine in dogs is between 250 and 500 mgs/kg, or about 2/3 to 1 1/3 of baking chocolate for every 2.2 pounds of body weight. However, serious non-fatal poisonings have been reported in dogs after eating smaller amounts." For more information on this: The Straight Dope, "Is chocolate poisonous to dogs?" http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_211.html ParkVets, "Chocolate, a sweet death" http://www.parkvets.com/petsandvets-chocolate.html Veterinary Information Network, "Chocolate toxicity" http://www.vin.com/mainpub/xmas/chocolate_tox.asp Janet Crosby, DVM, "Chocolate toxicity" http://vetmedicine.about.com/health/...weekly/aa02090 0a.htm I don't have saved info or time right now to search. Choc. can kill a dog and does. semii-sweet choc is 10 times worse. Get all your chocolate and immediately put it in your refrigerator. Save your self some heartache. If you ever have mice, put m&m choc. candies behind the appliance or a place your pets can't get to. Mice eat them and dehydrate and it makes them leave the house looking for water - then they die. http://www.firstaidforpets.com/drkevin/chocolate.html http://www.firstaidforpets.com/drkevin/chocolate.html Pet First Aid: Chocolate poisoning in dogs by Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald http://www.bostonterrierhealth.org/ Boston Terrier Health Site and Store Pet Care Tips: CHOCOLATE IS DANGEROUS FOR PETS Give chocolate to loved ones, and you could end up poisoning them. That is, if the loved ones are your pets. Even small amounts of theobromine, an ingredient in chocolate, can cause vomiting and restlessness in pets. Larger doses can be fatal. While most pet owners expect a dog to develop an upset stomach after eating a large amount of chocolate, few realize its toxic potential. The lethal dose of theobromine depends on the size of the dog and the type of chocolate. Ounce for ounce, baking chocolate has six to nine times as much of the substance as milk chocolate does. Estimates of the smallest amounts that can be fatal a 4 to 10 ounces of milk chocolate or 1/2 to 1 ounce of baking chocolate for small dogs, such as Chihuahuas and toy poodles. 1 to 1 1/2 pounds of milk chocolate or 2 to 3 ounces of baking chocolate for medium-sized dogs like cocker spaniels and dachshunds. 2 to 4 1/2 pounds of milk chocolate or 4 to 8 ounces of baking chocolate for large dogs, including collies and Labrador retrievers. While a very small amount of chocolate may not harm some dogs, it's safest to avoid giving it to them at all. If an accident occurs, a veterinarian should be consulted. Treatment may require inducing vomiting, stabilizing the animal's heartbeat and respiration, controlling seizures and slowing the absorption of theobromine. If the animal already is comatose, its stomach may need to be pumped. ----------------------------------- Chocolate contains theobromine and caffeine, which are both methylated alkaloids. Theobromine is the primary toxin. Both of these alkaloids are easily absorbed orally and widely spread throughout the body before being metabolized by the liver. Both also undergo renal excretion, which is more rapid in the presence of acid urine. One MOTA (method of toxic action) is inhibition of intercellular calcium sequestration. This results in a lowered threshold of stimulation for cardiac and skeletal muscle. These toxic alkaloids are also cAMP receptor antagonists, so there is increased stimulation of the CNS, vasoconstriction, tachycardia, and stimulation of the sensory cortex resulting in increased mental alertness. Dogs are more sensitive than cats, for once! In dogs, the lethal oral dose is 300 mg/kg; it's 700 mg/kg in cats. Baking chocolate contains about 400 mg/ounce, dark chocolate 150 mg/oz, milk chocolate 50 mg/oz (approximately!) Clinical signs of chocolate toxicity include: hyperactivity, restlessness, tachycardia, tachypnea, hyperreflexia, hyperthermia within 1-2 hours. These signs may be accompanied by urinary incontinence, vomiting and diarrhea, and can progress to muscle fasciculations, twitching, and terminal tetanic to convulsive seizures. Standard therapy includes detox with activated charcoal, (every 3-4 hours), gastric emptying (which can be hard to acheive since the chocolate makes a gooey mess which tends to adhere to the mucosa) and osmotic cathartics. Emetics are as always contraindicated with seizures (control seizures with diazepam or short-acting barbituates first). Supportive treatment includes promotion of renal excretion via acidification of urine, treatment of tachycardia with lidocaine (dogs only) or metoprolol (propanolol can also be used for tachyarrhymias, but it may slow renal excretion), and IV fluid support. Kidney Disease in Dogs website: symptoms, diagnosis, treatment, management (medical and dietary), recipes, breed specific renal diseases, genetics, current research, bibliography and abstracts http://www.geocities.com/jjfleisher/ Canine Renal Disease Website: mirror site of above http://www.geocities.com/slfleisher.geo/ Juvenile Renal Disease (JRD) in Standard Poodles: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/3596/jrd.html Clinical article on Juvenile Renal Disease (JRD) in Standard Poodles: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/H...nfleisher.html http://www.blarg.net/~jeffp/client-info.htm Juvenile and familial renal diseases in dogs: http://www.blarg.net/~jeffp/client-info.htm |
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There is a dog in our area who ate chocolate and is now blind at a
relatively young age, specifically because he ate the chocolate. Maxie P. Diddly wrote: "Zsarnok" wrote in message hlink.net... Mine love chocolate -- don't yell. Dogs love most food. That doesn't mean you should give it to them. I give them an itty bitty piece and counter it with doggie vits & flax oil. They eat better than I do. Giving your dog chocolate is neither a good thing, nor is it smart. http://members.fortunecity.com/somal...lineDiseases/C hocolate.htm QUESTION: With it being Christmas time, there's a lot of chocolate around my house, everything from cookies to miniature candy bars. I know chocolate is bad for dogs, but does anyone know WHY? I'm a pre-vet student, and I'm curious as to the physiological effects of chocolate in a dog. What is in it that is harmful, and what does that ingredient do to the dog? With two dogs in the house, and one being a puppy that chews or eats everything in sight, this would be useful information. -------------------------------------- The dangerous ingredient of chocoloate for dogs is theobromine, which is a methylxanthine and thus is chemically related to caffeine. Theobromine takes much longer to be metabolized in dogs, about 17.5 hours, than in humans. From an article in the chemistry section of about.com, "Theobromine, caffeine's chocolate cousin" http://chemistry.about.com/science/c...ekly/aa061900a. htm "In humans, theobromine has a ten-fold less stimulating effect than does caffeine. This is not the case in dogs, whose metabolic machinery removes theobromine very slowly, and who are therefore vulnerable to cardiac and central ervous system distress from this alkaloid (and from caffeine, as well). A toxic dose is estimated as between 100 to 200 milligrams of theobromine per kilogram (2.2 pounds) of a dog's body weight." From the Parvets page, "Chocolage - theobromine, further information" http://www.parkvets.com/petsandvets-...rtherinfo.html "Fatal doses of theobromine for dogs are suggested as ranging from 90-250 mg/kg though some sources report 100-500mg/kg, this suggests that there is considerable individual variation in what represents a fatal dose. But deaths have certainly been reported at the lower end of the range. Also while a dog may survive a higher dose it will probably have been seriously ill and required significant supportive care and treatment." "The LD50 is quoted as 100-300 mg/kg body weight. This is the dose that will kill 50% of the dogs eating it. 12 mg/kg causes no visible ill effects." From the page, "Chocolate Poisoning in Dogs" by Kevin Fitzgerald, Ph.D., D.V.M. http://www.apogeevideo.com/advice/article1.htm "Milk chocolate is obtained from seeds of theobroma cacao after fermentation and roasting. Milk chocolate has about 44 mg/ounce of theobromine; a 4.5 oz. milk chocolate bar has about 240 mgs. of theobromine. Unsweetened baking chocolate has even more -- about 390 to 450 mgs of theobromine per ounce." "Relative theobromine content per ounce for various products is: Milk chocolate: 44 - 60 mgs/ounce Unsweetened baking chocolate: 450 mg/oz Cacao meal: 300 - 900 mg/oz Cacao beans: 300 - 1200 mg/oz Hot chocolate: 13 mg/oz" "The lethal dosage of theobromine in dogs is between 250 and 500 mgs/kg, or about 2/3 to 1 1/3 of baking chocolate for every 2.2 pounds of body weight. However, serious non-fatal poisonings have been reported in dogs after eating smaller amounts." For more information on this: The Straight Dope, "Is chocolate poisonous to dogs?" http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_211.html ParkVets, "Chocolate, a sweet death" http://www.parkvets.com/petsandvets-chocolate.html Veterinary Information Network, "Chocolate toxicity" http://www.vin.com/mainpub/xmas/chocolate_tox.asp Janet Crosby, DVM, "Chocolate toxicity" http://vetmedicine.about.com/health/...weekly/aa02090 0a.htm I don't have saved info or time right now to search. Choc. can kill a dog and does. semii-sweet choc is 10 times worse. Get all your chocolate and immediately put it in your refrigerator. Save your self some heartache. If you ever have mice, put m&m choc. candies behind the appliance or a place your pets can't get to. Mice eat them and dehydrate and it makes them leave the house looking for water - then they die. http://www.firstaidforpets.com/drkevin/chocolate.html http://www.firstaidforpets.com/drkevin/chocolate.html Pet First Aid: Chocolate poisoning in dogs by Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald http://www.bostonterrierhealth.org/ Boston Terrier Health Site and Store Pet Care Tips: CHOCOLATE IS DANGEROUS FOR PETS Give chocolate to loved ones, and you could end up poisoning them. That is, if the loved ones are your pets. Even small amounts of theobromine, an ingredient in chocolate, can cause vomiting and restlessness in pets. Larger doses can be fatal. While most pet owners expect a dog to develop an upset stomach after eating a large amount of chocolate, few realize its toxic potential. The lethal dose of theobromine depends on the size of the dog and the type of chocolate. Ounce for ounce, baking chocolate has six to nine times as much of the substance as milk chocolate does. Estimates of the smallest amounts that can be fatal a 4 to 10 ounces of milk chocolate or 1/2 to 1 ounce of baking chocolate for small dogs, such as Chihuahuas and toy poodles. 1 to 1 1/2 pounds of milk chocolate or 2 to 3 ounces of baking chocolate for medium-sized dogs like cocker spaniels and dachshunds. 2 to 4 1/2 pounds of milk chocolate or 4 to 8 ounces of baking chocolate for large dogs, including collies and Labrador retrievers. While a very small amount of chocolate may not harm some dogs, it's safest to avoid giving it to them at all. If an accident occurs, a veterinarian should be consulted. Treatment may require inducing vomiting, stabilizing the animal's heartbeat and respiration, controlling seizures and slowing the absorption of theobromine. If the animal already is comatose, its stomach may need to be pumped. ----------------------------------- Chocolate contains theobromine and caffeine, which are both methylated alkaloids. Theobromine is the primary toxin. Both of these alkaloids are easily absorbed orally and widely spread throughout the body before being metabolized by the liver. Both also undergo renal excretion, which is more rapid in the presence of acid urine. One MOTA (method of toxic action) is inhibition of intercellular calcium sequestration. This results in a lowered threshold of stimulation for cardiac and skeletal muscle. These toxic alkaloids are also cAMP receptor antagonists, so there is increased stimulation of the CNS, vasoconstriction, tachycardia, and stimulation of the sensory cortex resulting in increased mental alertness. Dogs are more sensitive than cats, for once! In dogs, the lethal oral dose is 300 mg/kg; it's 700 mg/kg in cats. Baking chocolate contains about 400 mg/ounce, dark chocolate 150 mg/oz, milk chocolate 50 mg/oz (approximately!) Clinical signs of chocolate toxicity include: hyperactivity, restlessness, tachycardia, tachypnea, hyperreflexia, hyperthermia within 1-2 hours. These signs may be accompanied by urinary incontinence, vomiting and diarrhea, and can progress to muscle fasciculations, twitching, and terminal tetanic to convulsive seizures. Standard therapy includes detox with activated charcoal, (every 3-4 hours), gastric emptying (which can be hard to acheive since the chocolate makes a gooey mess which tends to adhere to the mucosa) and osmotic cathartics. Emetics are as always contraindicated with seizures (control seizures with diazepam or short-acting barbituates first). Supportive treatment includes promotion of renal excretion via acidification of urine, treatment of tachycardia with lidocaine (dogs only) or metoprolol (propanolol can also be used for tachyarrhymias, but it may slow renal excretion), and IV fluid support. Kidney Disease in Dogs website: symptoms, diagnosis, treatment, management (medical and dietary), recipes, breed specific renal diseases, genetics, current research, bibliography and abstracts http://www.geocities.com/jjfleisher/ Canine Renal Disease Website: mirror site of above http://www.geocities.com/slfleisher.geo/ Juvenile Renal Disease (JRD) in Standard Poodles: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/3596/jrd.html Clinical article on Juvenile Renal Disease (JRD) in Standard Poodles: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/H...nfleisher.html http://www.blarg.net/~jeffp/client-info.htm Juvenile and familial renal diseases in dogs: http://www.blarg.net/~jeffp/client-info.htm |
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I have heard that onions are toxic for dogs, however, powdered garlic is good for them (not garlic salt, and not fresh garlic). |
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I have heard that onions are toxic for dogs, however, powdered garlic is good for them (not garlic salt, and not fresh garlic). |
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My golden retriever ate two lbs of xmyth fudge once, nuts and all. She lived
a long time after that with no ill effects. But, I have to say, better safe than sorry. And no, I did not give her fudge, she snitched it! kate "Hy" wrote in message news:JELjb.109845$9l5.6373@pd7tw2no... There is a dog in our area who ate chocolate and is now blind at a relatively young age, specifically because he ate the chocolate. Maxie P. Diddly wrote: "Zsarnok" wrote in message hlink.net... Mine love chocolate -- don't yell. Dogs love most food. That doesn't mean you should give it to them. I give them an itty bitty piece and counter it with doggie vits & flax oil. They eat better than I do. Giving your dog chocolate is neither a good thing, nor is it smart. http://members.fortunecity.com/somal...lineDiseases/C hocolate.htm QUESTION: With it being Christmas time, there's a lot of chocolate around my house, everything from cookies to miniature candy bars. I know chocolate is bad for dogs, but does anyone know WHY? I'm a pre-vet student, and I'm curious as to the physiological effects of chocolate in a dog. What is in it that is harmful, and what does that ingredient do to the dog? With two dogs in the house, and one being a puppy that chews or eats everything in sight, this would be useful information. -------------------------------------- The dangerous ingredient of chocoloate for dogs is theobromine, which is a methylxanthine and thus is chemically related to caffeine. Theobromine takes much longer to be metabolized in dogs, about 17.5 hours, than in humans. From an article in the chemistry section of about.com, "Theobromine, caffeine's chocolate cousin" http://chemistry.about.com/science/c...ekly/aa061900a. htm "In humans, theobromine has a ten-fold less stimulating effect than does caffeine. This is not the case in dogs, whose metabolic machinery removes theobromine very slowly, and who are therefore vulnerable to cardiac and central ervous system distress from this alkaloid (and from caffeine, as well). A toxic dose is estimated as between 100 to 200 milligrams of theobromine per kilogram (2.2 pounds) of a dog's body weight." From the Parvets page, "Chocolage - theobromine, further information" http://www.parkvets.com/petsandvets-...rtherinfo.html "Fatal doses of theobromine for dogs are suggested as ranging from 90-250 mg/kg though some sources report 100-500mg/kg, this suggests that there is considerable individual variation in what represents a fatal dose. But deaths have certainly been reported at the lower end of the range. Also while a dog may survive a higher dose it will probably have been seriously ill and required significant supportive care and treatment." "The LD50 is quoted as 100-300 mg/kg body weight. This is the dose that will kill 50% of the dogs eating it. 12 mg/kg causes no visible ill effects." From the page, "Chocolate Poisoning in Dogs" by Kevin Fitzgerald, Ph.D., D.V.M. http://www.apogeevideo.com/advice/article1.htm "Milk chocolate is obtained from seeds of theobroma cacao after fermentation and roasting. Milk chocolate has about 44 mg/ounce of theobromine; a 4.5 oz. milk chocolate bar has about 240 mgs. of theobromine. Unsweetened baking chocolate has even more -- about 390 to 450 mgs of theobromine per ounce." "Relative theobromine content per ounce for various products is: Milk chocolate: 44 - 60 mgs/ounce Unsweetened baking chocolate: 450 mg/oz Cacao meal: 300 - 900 mg/oz Cacao beans: 300 - 1200 mg/oz Hot chocolate: 13 mg/oz" "The lethal dosage of theobromine in dogs is between 250 and 500 mgs/kg, or about 2/3 to 1 1/3 of baking chocolate for every 2.2 pounds of body weight. However, serious non-fatal poisonings have been reported in dogs after eating smaller amounts." For more information on this: The Straight Dope, "Is chocolate poisonous to dogs?" http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_211.html ParkVets, "Chocolate, a sweet death" http://www.parkvets.com/petsandvets-chocolate.html Veterinary Information Network, "Chocolate toxicity" http://www.vin.com/mainpub/xmas/chocolate_tox.asp Janet Crosby, DVM, "Chocolate toxicity" http://vetmedicine.about.com/health/...weekly/aa02090 0a.htm I don't have saved info or time right now to search. Choc. can kill a dog and does. semii-sweet choc is 10 times worse. Get all your chocolate and immediately put it in your refrigerator. Save your self some heartache. If you ever have mice, put m&m choc. candies behind the appliance or a place your pets can't get to. Mice eat them and dehydrate and it makes them leave the house looking for water - then they die. http://www.firstaidforpets.com/drkevin/chocolate.html http://www.firstaidforpets.com/drkevin/chocolate.html Pet First Aid: Chocolate poisoning in dogs by Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald http://www.bostonterrierhealth.org/ Boston Terrier Health Site and Store Pet Care Tips: CHOCOLATE IS DANGEROUS FOR PETS Give chocolate to loved ones, and you could end up poisoning them. That is, if the loved ones are your pets. Even small amounts of theobromine, an ingredient in chocolate, can cause vomiting and restlessness in pets. Larger doses can be fatal. While most pet owners expect a dog to develop an upset stomach after eating a large amount of chocolate, few realize its toxic potential. The lethal dose of theobromine depends on the size of the dog and the type of chocolate. Ounce for ounce, baking chocolate has six to nine times as much of the substance as milk chocolate does. Estimates of the smallest amounts that can be fatal a 4 to 10 ounces of milk chocolate or 1/2 to 1 ounce of baking chocolate for small dogs, such as Chihuahuas and toy poodles. 1 to 1 1/2 pounds of milk chocolate or 2 to 3 ounces of baking chocolate for medium-sized dogs like cocker spaniels and dachshunds. 2 to 4 1/2 pounds of milk chocolate or 4 to 8 ounces of baking chocolate for large dogs, including collies and Labrador retrievers. While a very small amount of chocolate may not harm some dogs, it's safest to avoid giving it to them at all. If an accident occurs, a veterinarian should be consulted. Treatment may require inducing vomiting, stabilizing the animal's heartbeat and respiration, controlling seizures and slowing the absorption of theobromine. If the animal already is comatose, its stomach may need to be pumped. ----------------------------------- Chocolate contains theobromine and caffeine, which are both methylated alkaloids. Theobromine is the primary toxin. Both of these alkaloids are easily absorbed orally and widely spread throughout the body before being metabolized by the liver. Both also undergo renal excretion, which is more rapid in the presence of acid urine. One MOTA (method of toxic action) is inhibition of intercellular calcium sequestration. This results in a lowered threshold of stimulation for cardiac and skeletal muscle. These toxic alkaloids are also cAMP receptor antagonists, so there is increased stimulation of the CNS, vasoconstriction, tachycardia, and stimulation of the sensory cortex resulting in increased mental alertness. Dogs are more sensitive than cats, for once! In dogs, the lethal oral dose is 300 mg/kg; it's 700 mg/kg in cats. Baking chocolate contains about 400 mg/ounce, dark chocolate 150 mg/oz, milk chocolate 50 mg/oz (approximately!) Clinical signs of chocolate toxicity include: hyperactivity, restlessness, tachycardia, tachypnea, hyperreflexia, hyperthermia within 1-2 hours. These signs may be accompanied by urinary incontinence, vomiting and diarrhea, and can progress to muscle fasciculations, twitching, and terminal tetanic to convulsive seizures. Standard therapy includes detox with activated charcoal, (every 3-4 hours), gastric emptying (which can be hard to acheive since the chocolate makes a gooey mess which tends to adhere to the mucosa) and osmotic cathartics. Emetics are as always contraindicated with seizures (control seizures with diazepam or short-acting barbituates first). Supportive treatment includes promotion of renal excretion via acidification of urine, treatment of tachycardia with lidocaine (dogs only) or metoprolol (propanolol can also be used for tachyarrhymias, but it may slow renal excretion), and IV fluid support. Kidney Disease in Dogs website: symptoms, diagnosis, treatment, management (medical and dietary), recipes, breed specific renal diseases, genetics, current research, bibliography and abstracts http://www.geocities.com/jjfleisher/ Canine Renal Disease Website: mirror site of above http://www.geocities.com/slfleisher.geo/ Juvenile Renal Disease (JRD) in Standard Poodles: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/3596/jrd.html Clinical article on Juvenile Renal Disease (JRD) in Standard Poodles: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/H...nfleisher.html http://www.blarg.net/~jeffp/client-info.htm Juvenile and familial renal diseases in dogs: http://www.blarg.net/~jeffp/client-info.htm |
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My golden retriever ate two lbs of xmyth fudge once, nuts and all. She lived
a long time after that with no ill effects. But, I have to say, better safe than sorry. And no, I did not give her fudge, she snitched it! kate "Hy" wrote in message news:JELjb.109845$9l5.6373@pd7tw2no... There is a dog in our area who ate chocolate and is now blind at a relatively young age, specifically because he ate the chocolate. Maxie P. Diddly wrote: "Zsarnok" wrote in message hlink.net... Mine love chocolate -- don't yell. Dogs love most food. That doesn't mean you should give it to them. I give them an itty bitty piece and counter it with doggie vits & flax oil. They eat better than I do. Giving your dog chocolate is neither a good thing, nor is it smart. http://members.fortunecity.com/somal...lineDiseases/C hocolate.htm QUESTION: With it being Christmas time, there's a lot of chocolate around my house, everything from cookies to miniature candy bars. I know chocolate is bad for dogs, but does anyone know WHY? I'm a pre-vet student, and I'm curious as to the physiological effects of chocolate in a dog. What is in it that is harmful, and what does that ingredient do to the dog? With two dogs in the house, and one being a puppy that chews or eats everything in sight, this would be useful information. -------------------------------------- The dangerous ingredient of chocoloate for dogs is theobromine, which is a methylxanthine and thus is chemically related to caffeine. Theobromine takes much longer to be metabolized in dogs, about 17.5 hours, than in humans. From an article in the chemistry section of about.com, "Theobromine, caffeine's chocolate cousin" http://chemistry.about.com/science/c...ekly/aa061900a. htm "In humans, theobromine has a ten-fold less stimulating effect than does caffeine. This is not the case in dogs, whose metabolic machinery removes theobromine very slowly, and who are therefore vulnerable to cardiac and central ervous system distress from this alkaloid (and from caffeine, as well). A toxic dose is estimated as between 100 to 200 milligrams of theobromine per kilogram (2.2 pounds) of a dog's body weight." From the Parvets page, "Chocolage - theobromine, further information" http://www.parkvets.com/petsandvets-...rtherinfo.html "Fatal doses of theobromine for dogs are suggested as ranging from 90-250 mg/kg though some sources report 100-500mg/kg, this suggests that there is considerable individual variation in what represents a fatal dose. But deaths have certainly been reported at the lower end of the range. Also while a dog may survive a higher dose it will probably have been seriously ill and required significant supportive care and treatment." "The LD50 is quoted as 100-300 mg/kg body weight. This is the dose that will kill 50% of the dogs eating it. 12 mg/kg causes no visible ill effects." From the page, "Chocolate Poisoning in Dogs" by Kevin Fitzgerald, Ph.D., D.V.M. http://www.apogeevideo.com/advice/article1.htm "Milk chocolate is obtained from seeds of theobroma cacao after fermentation and roasting. Milk chocolate has about 44 mg/ounce of theobromine; a 4.5 oz. milk chocolate bar has about 240 mgs. of theobromine. Unsweetened baking chocolate has even more -- about 390 to 450 mgs of theobromine per ounce." "Relative theobromine content per ounce for various products is: Milk chocolate: 44 - 60 mgs/ounce Unsweetened baking chocolate: 450 mg/oz Cacao meal: 300 - 900 mg/oz Cacao beans: 300 - 1200 mg/oz Hot chocolate: 13 mg/oz" "The lethal dosage of theobromine in dogs is between 250 and 500 mgs/kg, or about 2/3 to 1 1/3 of baking chocolate for every 2.2 pounds of body weight. However, serious non-fatal poisonings have been reported in dogs after eating smaller amounts." For more information on this: The Straight Dope, "Is chocolate poisonous to dogs?" http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_211.html ParkVets, "Chocolate, a sweet death" http://www.parkvets.com/petsandvets-chocolate.html Veterinary Information Network, "Chocolate toxicity" http://www.vin.com/mainpub/xmas/chocolate_tox.asp Janet Crosby, DVM, "Chocolate toxicity" http://vetmedicine.about.com/health/...weekly/aa02090 0a.htm I don't have saved info or time right now to search. Choc. can kill a dog and does. semii-sweet choc is 10 times worse. Get all your chocolate and immediately put it in your refrigerator. Save your self some heartache. If you ever have mice, put m&m choc. candies behind the appliance or a place your pets can't get to. Mice eat them and dehydrate and it makes them leave the house looking for water - then they die. http://www.firstaidforpets.com/drkevin/chocolate.html http://www.firstaidforpets.com/drkevin/chocolate.html Pet First Aid: Chocolate poisoning in dogs by Dr. Kevin Fitzgerald http://www.bostonterrierhealth.org/ Boston Terrier Health Site and Store Pet Care Tips: CHOCOLATE IS DANGEROUS FOR PETS Give chocolate to loved ones, and you could end up poisoning them. That is, if the loved ones are your pets. Even small amounts of theobromine, an ingredient in chocolate, can cause vomiting and restlessness in pets. Larger doses can be fatal. While most pet owners expect a dog to develop an upset stomach after eating a large amount of chocolate, few realize its toxic potential. The lethal dose of theobromine depends on the size of the dog and the type of chocolate. Ounce for ounce, baking chocolate has six to nine times as much of the substance as milk chocolate does. Estimates of the smallest amounts that can be fatal a 4 to 10 ounces of milk chocolate or 1/2 to 1 ounce of baking chocolate for small dogs, such as Chihuahuas and toy poodles. 1 to 1 1/2 pounds of milk chocolate or 2 to 3 ounces of baking chocolate for medium-sized dogs like cocker spaniels and dachshunds. 2 to 4 1/2 pounds of milk chocolate or 4 to 8 ounces of baking chocolate for large dogs, including collies and Labrador retrievers. While a very small amount of chocolate may not harm some dogs, it's safest to avoid giving it to them at all. If an accident occurs, a veterinarian should be consulted. Treatment may require inducing vomiting, stabilizing the animal's heartbeat and respiration, controlling seizures and slowing the absorption of theobromine. If the animal already is comatose, its stomach may need to be pumped. ----------------------------------- Chocolate contains theobromine and caffeine, which are both methylated alkaloids. Theobromine is the primary toxin. Both of these alkaloids are easily absorbed orally and widely spread throughout the body before being metabolized by the liver. Both also undergo renal excretion, which is more rapid in the presence of acid urine. One MOTA (method of toxic action) is inhibition of intercellular calcium sequestration. This results in a lowered threshold of stimulation for cardiac and skeletal muscle. These toxic alkaloids are also cAMP receptor antagonists, so there is increased stimulation of the CNS, vasoconstriction, tachycardia, and stimulation of the sensory cortex resulting in increased mental alertness. Dogs are more sensitive than cats, for once! In dogs, the lethal oral dose is 300 mg/kg; it's 700 mg/kg in cats. Baking chocolate contains about 400 mg/ounce, dark chocolate 150 mg/oz, milk chocolate 50 mg/oz (approximately!) Clinical signs of chocolate toxicity include: hyperactivity, restlessness, tachycardia, tachypnea, hyperreflexia, hyperthermia within 1-2 hours. These signs may be accompanied by urinary incontinence, vomiting and diarrhea, and can progress to muscle fasciculations, twitching, and terminal tetanic to convulsive seizures. Standard therapy includes detox with activated charcoal, (every 3-4 hours), gastric emptying (which can be hard to acheive since the chocolate makes a gooey mess which tends to adhere to the mucosa) and osmotic cathartics. Emetics are as always contraindicated with seizures (control seizures with diazepam or short-acting barbituates first). Supportive treatment includes promotion of renal excretion via acidification of urine, treatment of tachycardia with lidocaine (dogs only) or metoprolol (propanolol can also be used for tachyarrhymias, but it may slow renal excretion), and IV fluid support. Kidney Disease in Dogs website: symptoms, diagnosis, treatment, management (medical and dietary), recipes, breed specific renal diseases, genetics, current research, bibliography and abstracts http://www.geocities.com/jjfleisher/ Canine Renal Disease Website: mirror site of above http://www.geocities.com/slfleisher.geo/ Juvenile Renal Disease (JRD) in Standard Poodles: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/3596/jrd.html Clinical article on Juvenile Renal Disease (JRD) in Standard Poodles: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/H...nfleisher.html http://www.blarg.net/~jeffp/client-info.htm Juvenile and familial renal diseases in dogs: http://www.blarg.net/~jeffp/client-info.htm |
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"Goddess of Groundhogs" wrote in message ... Maxie P. Diddly poked his/her head out of his hole and screamed : at the world. Thanks Maxie. Some very good information there. I'm glad my dawgz have no taste for chocolate. Altho, according to the info you posted, it'd take about 5 pounds to hurt him seriously, it's best that he's never tasted it and doesn't crave it. My cat loves the smell of chocolate, but he won't eat it. Anytime I have some, it gets thoroughly whiskered. A good thing he doesn't take a bite, though, since my favorite perfume is a chocolate-sandalwood scent! Love & Laughter, Nightshade |
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"Goddess of Groundhogs" wrote in message ... Maxie P. Diddly poked his/her head out of his hole and screamed : at the world. Thanks Maxie. Some very good information there. I'm glad my dawgz have no taste for chocolate. Altho, according to the info you posted, it'd take about 5 pounds to hurt him seriously, it's best that he's never tasted it and doesn't crave it. My cat loves the smell of chocolate, but he won't eat it. Anytime I have some, it gets thoroughly whiskered. A good thing he doesn't take a bite, though, since my favorite perfume is a chocolate-sandalwood scent! Love & Laughter, Nightshade |
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