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Any thoughts on IAMS dog food ?Is it considered a good food or is there
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Any thoughts on IAMS dog food ?Is it considered a good food or is there
issues with it ? thanks In my opinion, its not that great. I think you can do a lot better. Corn is the second ingredient. This is the #3 cause of alergies in dogs. Let the games begin..... |
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Oh boy, here we go again.... sigh Papa Dog wrote: In my opinion, its not that great. I think you can do a lot better. Corn is the second ingredient. This is the #3 cause of alergies in dogs. Do you have a cite for this or is this only your opinion? I'm very curious why you think this particular statement is true. It has Chicken By-products which consist of the rendered, clean parts of the carcass of slaughtered chicken, such as necks, beaks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines -- exclusive of feathers except in such amounts as might occur unavoidably in good processing practices. Chicken By-Products are much less expensive and less digestible than Chicken Meal. This sounds as if it was written by Nutro. The part about digestibility is not neccessarily true. Again, do you have any cites to back this up? It has ground whole sorgham. Another grain. Dogs aren't cows. No, they are omnivores. Dried beet pulp is just a filler. Actually, it's a fiber source. They add Salt, not good for high blood pressure! You can do a lot better. Just read ingredients. Do some research on the net. Ask around. If you have any questions for me you can post here or e-mail me directly. papa There's more to nutrition than just reading ingredient panels. That will not tell you the whole story and will only lead you astray. |
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In article .com,
Steve Crane wrote: Additionally the starch or carbohydrate fraction of corn - like all grains - is nearly 99% digestible in dogs. The protein fraction of corn is more digestible than any other grain commonly used in pet foods. This would be where I refer you to Huff's "How To Lie With Statistics." "99% of the good stuff is good! Woohoo!" The problem is that dog foods commonly contain corn hull and less digestible parts of corn. To the person Steve's responding to: we have a little ethics problem here in rpdh. Steve and the Gaub are on Hills payroll. Sharon sells Science Diet. They should have told you that. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community. |
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Melinda Shore wrote: This would be where I refer you to Huff's "How To Lie With Statistics." "99% of the good stuff is good! Woohoo!" The problem is that dog foods commonly contain corn hull and less digestible parts of corn. Melinda - that is simply false nonsense, which I believe you are well aware of - please show us the AAFCO definition of ground corn, corn meal, or any other corn commonly used in any premium pet foods that permits any of the things you are claiming. Good luck. To the person Steve's responding to: we have a little ethics problem here in rpdh. Steve and the Gaub are on Hills payroll. Sharon sells Science Diet. They should have told you that. I used to worry about that, but you and Paws are so very good at following around on the NG's and making the proclamation at every post that it's beginning to seem a waste of time. Kind of like having a personal secretary- Thanks Now, when you're done with the personal attacks - prove what you said above. It continues to be my observation that when any opponent is losing the debate and cannot provide any facts to base their claims upon, they revert to personal attacks. You may not like my employment - but prove me wrong instead of using that as a basis for personal denigration. |
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In article .com,
Steve Crane wrote: Melinda - that is simply false nonsense, which I believe you are well aware of It's neither false nor nonsense. People need to understand how you're defining ingredients/terms because it can be misleading. I have no idea whether or not it's deliberate on your part. Now, when you're done with the personal attacks You know, while I might consider being identified with Hills a personal attack I'm a bit surprised that you do. To the extent that pointing out that you've got a financial and professional interest in promoting a particular (and exceedingly peculiar) view of dog food ingredients is a "personal attack," it's only because it suggests that there were ethical lapses that prevented you from doing it yourself. As to the "peculiar view," I was down at one of the local feed stores yesterday and because I'm about to move the dogs back onto a maintenance formula I was talking to the food buyer about what's new. I was also pretty curious to know if it really is Hill's position that ingredients don't matter so I asked her what the Hills sales rep said, and yup, your sales guys tell buyers that ingredients don't matter. On a positive note, she did say that one of your feeds works well for customers - the light formula. And then she said "That's not surprising, there's nothing in there." -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community. |
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Melinda Shore wrote:
To the person Steve's responding to: we have a little ethics problem here in rpdh. Steve and the Gaub are on Hills payroll. Sharon sells Science Diet. They should have told you that. She forgot to mention that I sell flea combs too. She also forgot to mention that the sale of dog food is at the bottom of our profit centers in animal hospitals. But that really doesn't matter to her. |
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Melinda Shore wrote: In article .com, Steve Crane wrote: Additionally the starch or carbohydrate fraction of corn - like all grains - is nearly 99% digestible in dogs. The protein fraction of corn is more digestible than any other grain commonly used in pet foods. This would be where I refer you to Huff's "How To Lie With Statistics." "99% of the good stuff is good! Woohoo!" The problem is that dog foods commonly contain corn hull and less digestible parts of corn. To the person Steve's responding to: we have a little ethics problem here in rpdh. Steve and the Gaub are on Hills payroll. Sharon sells Science Diet. They should have told you that. -- ....and Melinda is another Hill's Hater who would rather kill the messenger because she is unable to kill the message. Melinda has been unable to refute many of the points made here so she responds with name calling, smear capaigns, lies, and profanity. shrug Some people are just like that. There is nothing unethical about providing facts and information to clear up misconceptions. I would rather listen to someone who is an authority on the matter than listen to someone else who does not but hate on everything. As usual, she has provided NO helpful information in this thread. Her attacks will commence shortly. |
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