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Raw Vegan dog food
Melinda Shore wrote:
In article , chardonnay9 wrote: If a pet food lists "meat by-products" on the label, remember that this is the material that usually comes from the slaughterhouse industry or dead stock removal operations, classified as condemned or contaminated, That is incorrect. Meat meal, meat and bone meal, digests, and tankage (specifically animal tissue including bones and exclusive of hair, hoofs, horns, and contents of digestive tract) are composed of rendered material. That is *so* incorrect. You just keep thinking that while your dogs eat rendered animals. |
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chardonnay9 spoke these words of wisdom in
: You just keep thinking that while your dogs eat rendered animals. When I butcher an animal, it becomes "rendered" In fact, I just rendered out the heart, lover, and tripe and sliced it up and put it in baggies and just froze it for my dogs. My dogs love rendered animals that i save for them. |
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chardonnay9 wrote: You just keep thinking that while your dogs eat rendered animals. If you choose meat over meat meal you're paying for water and and the food contains less meat as a percentage of weight. This is extremely old news among people who pay attention to dog food - it's Dog Food 101. One way to quickly identify someone who really doesn't know the basics about dog food is when they tell you that meat meal is less desirable than meat. People who don't understand water content of meat are also unable to make effective comparisons of food macronutrient contents, since they're tautalogically unable to do the arithmetic to normalize macronutrient contents in feeds with different moisture contents. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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Gary wrote:
If people can buy meat for themselves, why not for their dog? And don't say its about money. Anybody can afford it if you shop around. Chicken necks, backs, organs, beef trim, etc are all very cheap. Remove coffee, tobacco, alcohol, snack foods, pop, etc and your health will skyrocket. There goes all the fun stuff. 99% of the population wastes money on those things. So 99% of the population can afford meat for their dog. 99% of all statistics are made up. Nick |
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Shelly wrote:
chardonnay9 wrote in m: If a pet food lists "meat by-products" on the label, Mine does not. Mine either. Nick |
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Judy wrote:
(*) pig feet, pig's feet, pig foot, pigs' feet. Why do none of those phrases look right to me this morning? Judy You left out pig feets. HTH Nick |
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Melinda Shore wrote:
In article , chardonnay9 wrote: You just keep thinking that while your dogs eat rendered animals. If you choose meat over meat meal you're paying for water and and the food contains less meat as a percentage of weight. This is extremely old news among people who pay attention to dog food - it's Dog Food 101. One way to quickly identify someone who really doesn't know the basics about dog food is when they tell you that meat meal is less desirable than meat. People who don't understand water content of meat are also unable to make effective comparisons of food macronutrient contents, since they're tautalogically unable to do the arithmetic to normalize macronutrient contents in feeds with different moisture contents. As usual you are off track and confused. This has nothing to do with what form the meat is in but where the meat comes from. The quality of those "meat byproducts" is not what I'd ever allow my dogs to eat. I've lived near a rendering plant and I know what goes on there and it's disgusting. Road kill, downer cows, euthanized pets with collars and flea products still on them, stuff people aren't allowed to eat, it goes into much of commercial dog food. People who don't understand the sources of the food they feed their dogs shouldn't own dogs. |
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chardonnay9 wrote: As usual you are off track and confused. This has nothing to do with what form the meat is in but where the meat comes from. You categorized "meat meal" together with "meat byproducts" and asserted that they come from: Road kill, downer cows, euthanized pets with collars and flea products still on them, stuff people aren't allowed to eat, it goes into much of commercial dog food. all of which is factually incorrect. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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Nick wrote:
Shelly wrote: chardonnay9 wrote: If a pet food lists "meat by-products" on the label, Mine does not. Mine either. Funny, neither does mine; its first three ingredients are listed as turkey, chicken, and chicken meal. Dianne |
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Gary wrote:
So why not suggest something? https://www.petdiets.com/ is run by a board-certified veterinary nutritionist and has a recipe for a vegan diet for a 30-pound dog with no medical problems. The recipe is $15, so I don't know if it's all-raw or not (I doubt it). If your dog does not meet the description above, Dr. Remillard will formulate a recipe for his/her specific needs for $250 (if you deal with her directly) or $100 if the contact with her is made through your veterinarian. If you happen to live anywhere near UC Davis in northern California, they also have a nutrition clinic that will help with formulating nutritionally-complete home-prepared diets. To be honest, there is no way I would feed a homemade diet without receiving qualified professional advice from a veterinary nutritionist like those that provide the above two services. (Incidentally, there are only 61 board-certified veterinary nutritionists in the world; you can view the list at http://www.acvn.org/site/view/58670_...Diplomates.pml .) Hope that helps. Dianne |
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