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BSL - 75 Breeds Listed (Even Goldens!)
Sometimes when I read articles and discussions about breedbans, especially
pit bull bans, I wonder if the author isn't just a wee bit biased against certain racial and/or socioeconomic groups. The CEO of the Richmond SPCA has come out for breeding bans on rotts and pits. After all, those people in that part of town are breeding them. gasp and horrors! Beth |
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diddy wrote:
Because I believe Pitbulls ARE dangerous, You were talking about doing it to your own dogs. for the most part, with some exceptions. But a correctly bred pitbull is agrressive. Not toward humans. As for dog or animal aggression, there are plenty of other breeds that will happily fight or kill other animals. Pit Bulls are not unique in that. They are *dogs*, not demonic killing machines. -- Shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) |
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bethgsd wrote:
Do you not vote?! Apparently not! And she cares do little for her own dogs that she wouldn't even try to stop or change legislation that endangered their well being or lives. *boggle* For someone who talks big about shooting to kill anyone who tries to harm her animals, she sure is spineless! -- Shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) |
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bethgsd wrote:
Sometimes when I read articles and discussions about breedbans, especially pit bull bans, I wonder if the author isn't just a wee bit biased against certain racial and/or socioeconomic groups. The CEO of the Richmond SPCA has come out for breeding bans on rotts and pits. After all, those people in that part of town are breeding them. gasp and horrors! It's hugely classist and racist. That's one of the things that bugs me about folks whose reasoning is similar to Diddy's. It's those *Other* people who are the problem, dontchaknow? And I don't believe for a moment that dog fighters are the only people in Diddy's area who own Pit Bulls. It defies logic, for one thing. The rural midwest is just not a seething hotbed of dog fighting. I lived for a long time in Diddy's general area, though across the state line, and believe me, all sorts of people own Pit Bulls. A small percentage of owners might actually fight their dogs, but it's not that common, and certainly *not* ubiquitous. I tend to agree with JohnF, in that the real problem is not dog fighters (though they should be punished when caught!), but hysteria and ignorance. -- Shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) |
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BSL - 75 Breeds Listed (Even Goldens!)
"Shelly" wrote in message ... bethgsd wrote: Do you not vote?! Apparently not! And she cares do little for her own dogs that she wouldn't even try to stop or change legislation that endangered their well being or lives. *boggle* For someone who talks big about shooting to kill anyone who tries to harm her animals, she sure is spineless! -- Shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) And given the legislation that is proposed now and again attempting to limit certain aspects of gun ownership you would think that she would get involved,if for no other reason. Better to have a knee jerk reaction to those dog fighters and killer pit bulls, doncha know. Beth |
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BSL - 75 Breeds Listed (Even Goldens!)
diddy wrote in
: in thread : Shelly shelly@cat- sidh.net whittled the following words: Like I said, I was curious about whether or not you had followed your "some breeds shouldn't be banned" sentiment to its logical conclusion. I guess not. BAD people have guns, so all guns should be banned. And we all know you don't believe in this way of thinking....so I must assume you're being sarcastic here. Fine. But what follows is confusing.... BAD PEOPLE have pitbulls therefore all pitbulls should be banned. You have actually saud things very mych LIKE this. And, you've clearly stated that in your area, you believe this very thing. I'm curious how you hold such opposing positions on such similar mindsets. ILLEGAL DRUGS ARE BAD, therefore all drug paraphanalia should be banned. Um, no one has mentioned this, and I don't know many people who believe it....don;t really get the pont in bringing it up. Tara |
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diddy wrote in news:Xns9948C84CE6F15danny@
216.196.97.142: in thread : Shelly whittled the following words: You would really harm your dogs just because some assholes passed an insane law? I don't consider it insane at all. I would accept a concession if the teeth were pulled. I would do a lifesaving procedure to my dog if it was required. YES. I don't buy this for half a second. If people were rallying to scapegoat your breed over all the others that have done more damage, you would be out there doing seminars, showing off your dogs' know-how and trainability, presenting your dog in front of city councils and local government despots. You would not read in the paper that they were coming after your breed, and make an appointment to have Tuck taken in for a total tooth extraction by that afternoon. That is just utter nonsense. Tara |
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"diddy" wrote: I am VERY surprised the American cocker spaniel is not on the bite list posted by Paul. When and where did Paul post a "bite list"? It wasn't in this thread. In this thread, he posted a list which puports to be of breeds that are banned "somewhere in the United States". Given that a goodly number of them are obviously local breeds and/or "designer dogs" (the sort the ConKC registers), if the list is for real, I'm guessing that quite few of those bans are in small local jurisdictions. Which is not to say that I support breed bans in any way, shape, or form. |
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BSL - 75 Breeds Listed (Even Goldens!)
I own 3 of these breeds =) We have an 11 yr old female boxer, a year and a half american bulldog male and a 1 yr old Presa Canario. Ive owned a doberman, pittie breeds, a rottie, german shepard etc. I think a lot of dogs are on this list bc of their size in general. The obviously will do damage if they bite. Most commonly you find small dogs with more actual aggression, and I mean that they will actually do something. Most larger dogs will bark to warn off ppl or animals. In my experience small dogs will actually act on it instead. But its not recorded as often of course bc its not a painful/destructive bite usually.
I will say from personal experience that our dogs are very trustworthy with children, amazingly so. The boxer and american bulldog have dog agression issues but that is my fault bc of the boxer being attacked when she was with a sitter once and I didnt train her properly after and then now I freak out when shes by a dog which does not help. Our presa is a year old and the most amazing dog weve owned. Incredibly trained and smart. Very chill but goofy when playing etc. Shes amazing and a great protector if needed but is such an amazing family dog with no agressive bones in her body! On Tuesday, June 5, 2007 1:29:43 PM UTC-4, Paul E. Schoen wrote: You may have seen this before, but I thought it would be good to post it here. I was surprised to see some of the breeds, such as Golden Retriever, Lab, and Airedale. So, from now on, Muttley is just a Mutt! Paul and MUTTley ================================================== ========================= May 22, 2007 List Of 75 Banned Or Restricted Breeds - Is Your Dog On The List? The Responsible Dog Owners Of The Western States (RDOWS) has just updated the list of breeds that have been banned or restricted in the U.S.. All you dog lovers out there may just be in for a shock. BSL - or breed-specific legislation and breed discriminstion- isn't just for pitbulls or Rottweilers anymore The RDOWS has tracked a list of 75 breeds of dogs that have been banned or restricted - yep - that's Seventy-five. That's 75! Just who or what is behind this breed ban frenzy? Is your dog on the list of banned or restricted breeds? Here's the deal............... Media Frenzy Equals Breed Bans And just who is pouring gasoline onto the fire, whipping up the flams of pit bull hysteria? Who is driving the onslaught of anti-dog legislation? Your local paper, TV or radio station - with innacurate reports than use inflammatory language ("vicious" Rottweiler, "marauding" pitbulls, etc.) and show UNRELATED footage of dogfights supplied by the Humane Society of the United States. Across the country - and indeed around the world - cities, counties and local town councils are busy banning or restricting breeds instead of punishing irresponsible behavior. Here's what is happening: Breed bans - an outright ban on owning a specific breed of dog Breed-specific sterilization - owners are forced to spay or neuter animal Breed-specific Breed-specific insurance requirements - forces owners to obtain the unobtainable "vicious" breed insurance - in reality this forces owners to surrender dogs or move Weight or size restrictions - banning dogs over an arbitrarily determined weight or size - as in Fairfield, Iowa where all dogs over 100 lbs are banned (St. Bernard, Irish Wolfhound, Great Dane, etc.) BTW - your insurance company is happily waiting in the background too - waiting to exclude coverage of your dog, waiting to drop your policy, or waiting to outrageously raise your rates. So - without further ado, courtesy of the RDOWS, here is the list of 75 - count 'em - SEVENTY FIVE - banned or restricted breeds ..................... List of 75 Banned or Restricted Dogs 1. AIREDALE TERRIER 2. AKBASH 3. AKITA 4. ALAPAHA BLUE BLOOD BULLDOG 5. ALASKAN MALAMUTE 6. ALSATIAN SHEPHERD 7. AMERICAN BULLDOG 8. AMERICAN HUSKY 9. AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER 10. AMERICAN STAFFORDSHIRE TERRIER 11. AMERICAN WOLFDOG 12. ANATOLIAN SHEPHERD 13. ARIKARA DOG 14. AUSTRALIAN CATTLE DOG 15. AUSTRALIAN SHEPHERD 16. BELGIAN MALINOIS 17. BELGIAN SHEEPDOG 18. BELGIAN TURVUREN 19. BLUE HEELER 20. BOERBUL 21. BORZOI 22. BOSTON TERRIER 23. BOUVIER DES FLANDRES 24. BOXER 25. BULLDOG 26. BULL TERRIER 27. BULL MASTIFF 28. CANE CORSO 29. CATAHOULA LEOPARD DOG 30. CAUCASIAN SHEPHERD 31. CHINESE SHAR PEI 32. CHOW-CHOW 33. COLORADO DOG 34. DOBERMAN PINSCHER 35. DOGO DE ARGENTINO 36. DOGUE DE BORDEAUX 37. ENGLISH MASTIFFS 38. ENGLISH SPRINGER SPANIEL 39. ESKIMO DOG 40. ESTRELA MOUNTAIN DOG 41. FILA BRASILIERO 42. FOX TERRIER 43. FRENCH BULLDOG 44. GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG 45. GOLDEN RETRIEVER 46. GREENLAND HUSKY 47. GREAT DANE 48. GREAT PYRANEES 49. ITALIAN MASTIFF 50. KANGAL DOG 51. KEESHOND 52. KOMONDOR 53. KOTEZEBUE HUSKY 54. KUVAZ 55. LABRADOR RETRIEVER 56. LEONBERGER 57. MASTIFF 58. NEOPOLITAN MASTIFF 59. NEWFOUNDLAND 60. OTTERHOUND 61. PRESA DE CANARIO 62. PRESA DE MALLORQUIN 63. PUG 64. ROTTWEILER 65. SAARLOOS WOLFHOND 66. SAINT BERNARD 67. SAMOYED 68. SCOTTISH DEERHOUND 69. SIBERIAN HUSKY 70. SPANISH MASTIFF 71. STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER 72. TIMBER SHEPHERD 73. TOSA INU 74. TUNDRA SHEPHERD 75. WOLF SPITZ How's that for scary? |
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