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Old October 29th 11, 09:42 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Once asked this group for help in stopping pink-brownish colors on
light/white coat of our now 3 1/2 yr Goldendoodle.. Apparently in
some dogs, bacteria and/or minerals are the culprit.

Sought help here and there - Angel Eyes and the like. Zero,

Results: now give Bella distilled water only. Gal jugs cost $o.69
here in SRQ, Florida.

Formerly "pinked" hair is growing out - clipped every 5-6 week.

Bella licks a lot - no "pink" remants. Area around mouth is
lightening up.

Passing this on for general comment, agreements, other solutions, etc.

Best Regards,
Wayne
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Old October 30th 11, 04:24 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Once asked this group for help in stopping pink-brownish colors on
light/white coat of our now 3 1/2 yr Goldendoodle.. Apparently in
some dogs, bacteria and/or minerals are the culprit.
Results: now give Bella distilled water only. Gal jugs cost $o.69
here in SRQ, Florida.

Formerly "pinked" hair is growing out - clipped every 5-6 week.



..........AH! Very interesting. Have no time to figure this out now, but
may do a search later. Good on ya! And thanks for posting the info.

buglady
take out the dog before replying


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Old October 30th 11, 06:28 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Yep, keeping the drainage area in the corners of the eye clean and
somewhat drier with a daily flush and pat or lightly rub dry removes a
lot of the bacteria that stain the areas..... same around the mouth.

Years ago blame was placed on the red dye commonly added to cheapo dog
foods (still is added), then someone studied the issue more deeply and
did cultures of the stained area and found "buggs".........

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia, USA

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Old November 19th 11, 01:04 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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In continuation of using distilled water, hair around/under mouth is
slowly turning her natural hair color. Mineral-free water "must" be
doing this.
Areas around eyes are no problem - never were. All Beautiful. Bella's
hair color - cream-white.

Thank You to those who reply

Wayne
SRQ, FL



On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:28:31 -0400, (Jo Wolf) wrote:

Yep, keeping the drainage area in the corners of the eye clean and
somewhat drier with a daily flush and pat or lightly rub dry removes a
lot of the bacteria that stain the areas..... same around the mouth.

Years ago blame was placed on the red dye commonly added to cheapo dog
foods (still is added), then someone studied the issue more deeply and
did cultures of the stained area and found "buggs".........

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia, USA

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Old November 20th 11, 08:21 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Logic would say that. However, what it is is reducing the bacterial
load that dyes the hair in that area. What you use is not critical, as
long as it's safe. You could use tap water and get the same results.
Or unscented baby wipes. How do I know? I used both methods with the
tear dainage streaks on my mixed breed bitch who had a pale honey color
coat..... and both worked.

But glad to know that you are getting the results that you need! Thanks
for checking back in to report!

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia, USA

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Old December 19th 11, 03:37 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Yeh, same effect in the area of the lips.... bacteria growing in the
constantly wet hair....

What about..... Clean washcloth daily, wet with warm tapwater and a
drop or two of shampoo; wash the area well and rinse well (with a
hand-held shower thingie)..... Dry as well as possible with clean towel
(hand towel size micro-fiber version that soaks up maximum water), then
dry with hair drier on low or no heat......

Or maybe..... Carefully trim that area as short as possible using a
blunt tip scissors such as mustache scissors.... available at beauty
supply shops.

Consult an experienced groomer. One at a private shop, NOT one at a
big-box pet store (usually unable to keep job at a good shop or just
starting out with minimal training). A poodle (any size) breeder who
shows her dogs might be even better!

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia, USA

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Old December 19th 11, 01:07 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 21:37:56 -0500, (Jo Wolf) wrote:

Yeh, same effect in the area of the lips.... bacteria growing in the
constantly wet hair....

What about..... Clean washcloth daily, wet with warm tapwater and a
drop or two of shampoo; wash the area well and rinse well (with a
hand-held shower thingie)..... Dry as well as possible with clean towel
(hand towel size micro-fiber version that soaks up maximum water), then
dry with hair drier on low or no heat......

Or maybe..... Carefully trim that area as short as possible using a
blunt tip scissors such as mustache scissors.... available at beauty
supply shops.

Consult an experienced groomer. One at a private shop, NOT one at a
big-box pet store (usually unable to keep job at a good shop or just
starting out with minimal training). A poodle (any size) breeder who
shows her dogs might be even better!

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia, USA


Thank You for your reply, Jo. After following your advice, is there
really a way to eliminate the bacteria? Someone said it might be her
diet. Now feeding her all "dog" food,no people food (well once in a
while - at 72, we are not properly trained!). Kibbles (splg?),
hollistic-type-style.

Bella is a real people dog. EXCELLENT with humans and other dogs.
LIkes to roam in The Home Depot. Her looks/coat attract couples
thinking about getting a dog.

Current groomer owns a private shop. No big-box stores. Their
advice: change her diet.

Tks,
Wayne Dengel in SRQ, Fl.

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Old December 20th 11, 02:26 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Well, my guys get their pizza bones (crusts), and left over meat or
veggies added to their kibble now and then.... Meat, cheese for
training treats, raw fruit and veggies for household treats....

The bacteria is a common one, IIRC, and not very pathogenic (doesn't
often cause infections). It's on skin, in environment.... Yes, food
remaining in the fur around the mouth encourages growth. The food gets
there from direct contact in the bowl and from less than perfectly neat
eating, licking.... Folks who show long coated dogs with hairy faces,
especially light colored faces, clean the mouth area the same way they
clean the tear path. They "scrub" the area with a clean damp cloth (the
blue shop-type paper towels are very strong) after each meal. It
reduces staining, but doesn't totally prevent it.

The process and materials they use on stained white fur elsewhere isn't
safe for the face.... plain talc or chalk powder mixed into a stiff
slurry with hydrogen peroxide and rub it thickly into the stained areas
of the coat (mostly the lower legs and feet) and let it dry, then brush
all directions for a long time to get it all out.... GACK! But this is
usually done only on a show day. Their retired dogs have short
haircuts.....

Friends in Oklahoma have West Highland White Terriers and Wire Fox
Terriers..... Lotsa white fur.... and live in an area with bright red
clay. They had to pave the dogs' exercise yard to avoid pink coat
(After the bleaching efforts).....

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia, USA

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Old December 20th 11, 02:17 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On Dec 18, 7:51*am, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 02:21:25 -0500, (Jo Wolf) wrote:
Logic would say that. *However, what it is is reducing the bacterial
load that dyes the hair in that area. *What you use is not critical, as
long as it's safe. * You could use tap water and get the same results.
Or *unscented baby wipes. *How do I know? *I used both methods with the
tear dainage streaks on *my mixed breed bitch who had a pale honey color
coat..... and both worked.


But glad to know that you are getting the results that you need! *Thanks
for checking back in to report!


Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia, USA


Well - not so sure now. *Bacteria in her saliva is the answer.

Distilled water is NOT working as I originally thought.

Is there a safe method? * We do not have tear stains! *Purely around
her muzzle and where she continues to nibble, etc. *Bella lives with
it, it is her owners!

Thank you for your help/suggestions.

Wayne in Sarasota, FL


Try putting a little colloidal silver in her water. It does help. You
can get it at most health food stores.

Cyndi
 




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