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Death by Vaccinosis
"We present these gruesome photos, video (below) and records as
examples of widespread veterinary malpractice through unregulated over- vaccination. Millions of people have lost their companion animals due to ignorance and/or callous disregard for animal health and the deleterious effects of unscientific, unsafe and unnecessary vaccinations." http://www.thedogplace.org/VACCINES/...Staff-1112.asp If you've ever clicked on a link, this is one that should be clicked on. There are pictures, tons of evidence and a remarkable video at the end. It makes you want to cry. Cyndi |
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Death by Vaccinosis
Yes it happens.
Yes it is uncommon. Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia, USA |
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Death by Vaccinosis
On Dec 11, 9:14*pm, (Jo Wolf) wrote:
Yes it happens. Yes it is uncommon. Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia, USA Stop being a bitch! It isn't nearly as uncommon as you'd think, mostly because people don't recognize symptoms as being from vaccinosis. Do you really think you know everything there is to know? I'm human enough to know there is always more to be learned. You surely aren't humble. |
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Death by Vaccinosis
Right, I'm not humble. I'm a medical professional who keeps up on pet
health issues by frequent conversations with real live practicing vets, and borrowing their journals. I also work with the pet owning public and hear of the health problems they are dealing with... or not. And what are your credentials? Oh, and I also have easy access to a European Trained homeopath.... I stick with things that have worked for me and my dogs. As a member of an international infectious diseases organization, I understand how vaccines work, what their limitations are, and the degrees of problems they do and do not generate.... and the concepts of community immunity and immunity memory.... for humans and animals. Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia, USA |
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Death by Vaccinosis
On Dec 14, 6:19*pm, (Jo Wolf) wrote:
Right, I'm not humble. *I'm a medical professional who keeps up on pet health issues by frequent conversations with real live practicing vets, and borrowing their journals. *I also work with the pet owning public and hear of the health problems they are dealing with... or not. *And what are your credentials? *Oh, and I also have easy access to a European Trained homeopath.... I stick with things that have worked for me and my dogs. As a member of an international infectious diseases organization, I understand how vaccines work, what their limitations are, and the degrees of problems they do and do not generate.... and the concepts of community immunity and immunity memory.... for humans and animals. Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia, USA Well there's your first problem. You think you know it all. Secondly vaccines don't work much if at all. I'm comfortable with what I know and how I got there. Sounds like you aren't. Real live practicing vets are trained by Big Pharma and the kibble companies. Most never look past that and see what is out there unfortunately. This article very much proves that. These dogs are victims of vets and it's really sad. Since you get much of your info from such vets I'd say your knowledge is very much limited. You should try learning from others instead of attacking the messengers. There is no one on this planet that can't learn something. I am joyful when I learn new things, not hateful like you are. |
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Death by Vaccinosis
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 04:04:33 -0800, cyndi wrote:
On Dec 14, 6:19Â*pm, (Jo Wolf) wrote: Right, I'm not humble. Â*I'm a medical professional who keeps up on pet health issues by frequent conversations with real live practicing vets, and borrowing their journals. Â*I also work with the pet owning public and hear of the health problems they are dealing with... or not. Â*And what are your credentials? Â*Oh, and I also have easy access to a European Trained homeopath.... I stick with things that have worked for me and my dogs. As a member of an international infectious diseases organization, I understand how vaccines work, what their limitations are, and the degrees of problems they do and do not generate.... and the concepts of community immunity and immunity memory.... for humans and animals. Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia, USA Well there's your first problem. You think you know it all. Secondly vaccines don't work much if at all. I'm comfortable with what I know and how I got there. Sounds like you aren't. Real live practicing vets are trained by Big Pharma and the kibble companies. Most never look past that and see what is out there unfortunately. This article very much proves that. These dogs are victims of vets and it's really sad. Since you get much of your info from such vets I'd say your knowledge is very much limited. You should try learning from others instead of attacking the messengers. There is no one on this planet that can't learn something. I am joyful when I learn new things, not hateful like you are. and you have jumped to conclusions based on your sick imagination, you are a victim of paranoia,perhaps you have had some bad experiences that have turned off all your logic. Jo is the most friendly user of this groups and his advise is always prompt and never offending. If you behave like this everyday you should seek a help from a shrink. |
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Death by Vaccinosis
Thank you sonofdog. It helps to have stayed awake during science
classes.... and not to fear science.... {grin} Also helps that I grew up and entered nursing before there were as many vaccines for humans and animals as there are today, and saw the results........ Like the 6 yo girl who was left in a vegetative state from measles encephalitis (1962), and having had mumps as a teenager myself (1957)..... and watched puppy after puppy after kitten in the neighborhood die from common communicable diseases of those species. Even back in the 1960s many docs had never seen diphtheria, and certainly had never seen smallpox. Now I know young vets, just out of school, who have never seen a case of canine distemper or a case of rabies....... Why the change? Community immunity because a high percentage of individuals were vaccinated against those diseases. How are they now protecting babies too young to be immunized against pertussis (whooping cough)? They are re-vaccinating the adults and adolescents around the baby to develop a "safe coccoon" that prevents exposure.... because that vaccine is now known to not be effective for the lifetime. Vaccines work. Yes, some dogs are "over vaccinated". Education works, too..... Cyndi is just one of those folks who've never met a quack she doesn't like. You and I can't change that. We can only hope to present the truth and give those exposed to her paranoia the opportunity to explore.... and reach the safest conclusions. It's a shame her schools had such a poor science program. Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia, USA |
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Death by Vaccinosis
cyndi wrote:
On Dec 11, 9:14 pm, (Jo Wolf) wrote: Yes it happens. Yes it is uncommon. Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia, USA Stop being a bitch! It isn't nearly as uncommon as you'd think, mostly because people don't recognize symptoms as being from vaccinosis. FWIW I consider her ressponses to be very polite. Do you really think you know everything there is to know? I'm human enough to know there is always more to be learned. You surely aren't humble. Pot. If you were truly willing to learn you'ld listen more to knowledgeable people and not worry about whether they are humble.Whether they are humble has nothing to do with how knowlegeable they are. -- Bill Clodius los the lost and net the pet to email |
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Death by Vaccinosis
cyndi wrote:
On Dec 14, 6:19 pm, (Jo Wolf) wrote: Right, I'm not humble. I'm a medical professional who keeps up on pet health issues by frequent conversations with real live practicing vets, and borrowing their journals. I also work with the pet owning public and hear of the health problems they are dealing with... or not. And what are your credentials? Oh, and I also have easy access to a European Trained homeopath.... I stick with things that have worked for me and my dogs. As a member of an international infectious diseases organization, I understand how vaccines work, what their limitations are, and the degrees of problems they do and do not generate.... and the concepts of community immunity and immunity memory.... for humans and animals. Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia, USA Well there's your first problem. You think you know it all. Secondly vaccines don't work much if at all. They don't? What caused the disappearance of smallpox, the large reductions in mumps, measles, polio? The near elimination of canine specific rabies in North America? Why is it still endemic in much of the third world? I'm comfortable with what I know and how I got there. Sounds like you aren't. Real live practicing vets are trained by Big Pharma and the kibble companies. Most never look past that and see what is out there unfortunately. This article very much proves that. These dogs are victims of vets and it's really sad. Since you get much of your info from such vets I'd say your knowledge is very much limited. You should try learning from others instead of attacking the messengers. There is no one on this planet that can't learn something. I am joyful when I learn new things, not hateful like you are. -- Bill Clodius los the lost and net the pet to email |
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Death by Vaccinosis
On Dec 15, 11:45*pm, (William Clodius) wrote:
cyndi wrote: Well there's your first problem. You think you know it all. Secondly vaccines don't work much if at all. They don't? What caused the disappearance of smallpox, the large reductions in mumps, measles, polio? The near elimination of canine specific rabies in North America? If you look at time lines for many of these diseases they were already decreasing before the vaccine was given. Polio is a great example of this. Not only did the vaccine *not* help, it created many more cases of polio. The credit given to Dr. Salk for ending polio is based on a fraudulent misrepresentation of the historical data -- something that was intentionally done by the vaccine industry in order to convince people that vaccines ended polio! The polio death rate in the United States declined on its own by 47% from 1923 to 1953. A similar decline occurred in European countries as well. There is no credible evidence that the polio vaccines caused polio to disappear. When the polio vaccines became available ( Salk vaccine 1955 and Sabin 1959 ) many European countries questioned their effectiveness and refused to systematically inoculate their populations. Despite these refusals to use the vaccines, polio epidemics also ended in these countries. The number of reported cases of polio following mass inoculations with the Salk vaccine jumped dramatically. For example, when comparing the number of polio cases over a one year period just prior to the Salk vaccination to a one year period just following the vaccinations, we have: Vermont (266% increase), Rhode Island (454% increase), New Hampshire (239% increase), Connecticut (92% increase) and Massachusetts (642% increase). http://www.rifeenergymedicine.com/VACCINES.html Even Salk himself would not stand by the vaccine he created later on in life. Myth No. 6: Polio vaccinations were very successful False again. In 1955, when the Salk vaccine was introduced, polio was considered the most serious post-war public health problem. A year later, six New England states reported sharp rises ranging from more than double in Vermont to a 642% increase in Massachusetts. Other states also were badly impacted enough for Idaho and Utah to halt immunizations due to increased incidence and death rates. In his 1962 congressional testimony, Dr. Bernard Greenberg, Biostatistics Department head at the University of North Carolina, reported sharp polio increases from 1957 to 1959 and a Public Health Service whitewash that suppressed it. In 1985, the CDC reported that 87% of US cases between 1973 and 1983 were caused by the vaccine. Later it added that it caused nearly all imported cases, and most of the victims were fully vaccinated. Further, misdiagnosing, poor reporting, and cover-ups suggest that the actual number of vaccine-associated paralytic polio (VAPP) cases "may be 10 to 100 times higher than that cited by the CDC." In 1977, even Jonas Salk admitted that mass inoculations caused most polio cases since 1961. Truth No. 6 The Salk vaccine proved highly dangerous. Information about it was suppressed, and declines in the disease were well underway when mass- immunizations were begun. In Europe, they occurred in countries that used, then rejected the vaccine proving it was never needed in the first place. Showing also that the same is true for other diseases, including Swine Flu with the WHO and CDC admitting that most cases are mild, unthreatening, and generally pass without treatment, let alone risking dangerous unneeded vaccines. http://www.rense.com/general86/vacci.htm |
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