If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Bark Collar? Which one?
I have a French bulldog that is a very good dog, but often goes to the fence
and barks excessively. A little barking is good, but I don't want to alienate the neighbors with constant yapping. Will an anti-bark collar help? She is very trainable and remembers unpleasant consequences very well. Thanks for any help. Tom |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Bark Collar? Which one?
"Tom Ginkel" said in
rec.pets.dogs.breeds: [Follow-ups set to rec.pets.dogs.behavior] I have a French bulldog that is a very good dog, but often goes to the fence and barks excessively. What do you currently do to stop this behaviour? A little barking is good, In this case, I'd say that a little barking is not good. Dogs deal easiest with black and white, and a little barking is still barking. but I don't want to alienate the neighbors with constant yapping. A very good goal. Some dog owners don't consider their neighbours. Will an anti-bark collar help? No. I have no problem with remote e-collars used properly, but bark collars (set off by the bark) may lead to an unintended increase in your fence fighting issue. She is very trainable and remembers unpleasant consequences very well. Train her, then. A bark collar doesn't train. -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Bark Collar? Which one?
"Tom Ginkel" wrote in message news:xLmkk.223490$TT4.169005@attbi_s22... I have a French bulldog that is a very good dog, but often goes to the fence and barks excessively. A little barking is good, but I don't want to alienate the neighbors with constant yapping. Will an anti-bark collar help? She is very trainable and remembers unpleasant consequences very well. Thanks for any help. Tom From: Shelley ) Subject: no bark training revisited Date: 2003-11-06 14:50:21 PST Typically, the dog stops barking within seconds. I have to disagree with this. Not our dog. We tried one (and never will again). When the doorbell rang, he would tear over to the door and bark and bark and bark with this collar on. He'd end up screaming in pain and it continue to zap him until it hit its maximum. I will never torture my dog like that again. -- Shelley & Rusty http://www.bump.us/rusty ------------------------------ BARK! ZAP! SCREAM...ZAP ...SCREAM...ZAP... SCREAM... ZAP... SCREAM...ZAP...SCREAM...ZAP ...SCREAM "Susan Fraser" wrote in message ... Did you try it on your throat? Not very pleasant. Umm, yes. As a matter of fact, I did. It the sensation is actually much milder than it is on the palm, which has sweat glands and so conducts more. You're full of crap. "JC" wrote in message .. . A friend of mine told this story about his experience with a shock-collar: Jim's sister-in-law had a shock collar she wanted to use on her dog stop it from barking. Not being very technical, she brought it over for Jim to assemble and adjust. Jim got it all put together and decided to try it on himself to see which setting would be most appropriate. With the collar around his neck, set on minimum, Jim tried a little bark... woof. Nothing.... Woof Woof. Nothing.... Bark. Nothing.... Bark Bark. Nothing... BARK! ZAP! The collar worked! Unfortunately, the zap was painful enough to make Jim scream with pain, which the collar interpreted as another bark, which lead to another ZAP! Which made Jim scream again... ZAP...SCREAM...ZAP...SCREAM... Eventually, Jim got the collar off but it never survived the chance to end up on the dog. (Names have been changed to protect the stupid) : ) -------------------- From the Dayton Daily News: 05.05.2001] Lawsuit on dog's behalf could set legal precedent Electrified collar burned family pet By Cathy Mong Dayton Daily News VANDALIA | A civil lawsuit filed by a Vandalia family on behalf of its injured dog could set legal precedent in Ohio, says Dayton attorney Paul R. Leonard, an avowed animal lover who wants the state to toughen its penalties for abuse of pets. Leonard, former Dayton mayor and state legislator in the 1970s, said the case of Boomer, a 4-year-old rambunctious golden retriever burned by an electrified collar, is the first to be filed by his newly formed Center for Animal Law and Advocacy. The lawsuit, brought by Andrew and Alyce Pacher and their children, Andrew III, and Sarah, against Invisible Fence of Dayton, is set for a pretrial conference May 17 in Montgomery County Common Pleas Court. Leonard, who has studied animal law the past 18 months through Lewis and Clark College in Portland, Ore., is incorporating his center as a nonprofit organization. He said he hopes Boomer's case can put some bite into what he describes as antiquated criminal laws regarding animal cruelty. Scott G. Oxley, the lawyer for the Centerville fence company, has filed a motion to dismiss three of the five counts in the lawsuit because he said that, under Ohio law, companion animals are considered personal property. "This (lawsuit) was filed by Boomer, that's how I read it," Oxley said. "It's my opinion that it's clear dogs cannot sue under Ohio law. I would be surprised if a court would extend to this dog an ability to file a lawsuit." Leonard said Oxley is correct, but he's going to court because the legislature has not toughened criminal laws. Leonard said his center's focus is to use the civil courts to collect damages when animals have been intentionally harmed or suffered from someone's negligence. "If judges aren't going to penalize them criminally, we'll go after pocketbooks," Leonard said. Leonard said "Animal-friendly" legislation gets "little or no serious consideration" by lawmakers, "but I think the movement is getting stronger. People are treating animals more like family and less like property. I think the votes are there." Although 27 states recognize forms of inhumane and cruel treatment of animals as felonies, Ohio does not. Only Tennessee limits awards in civil lawsuits - $4,000 - based on emotional distress and loss of companionship of a pet. Ohio House Bill 108, introduced last year to increase penalties for people who are abusive or cruel to companion animals, died in committee, said Kevin Usilton, executive director of the Humane Society of Greater Dayton. Ohio's existing animal welfare laws have remained virtually unchanged for 125 years and are among the country's worst, he said. The Pachers' lawsuit claims the fence company's negligence caused Boomer to suffer psychological damage and physical injuries. The Pachers purchased Invisible Fence of Dayton's "Top Dog Package," which cost $1,527.80 and advertised "praise-based training" in its "classic conditioning techniques with radio technology." An electrical wire is buried in the yard and the dog wears a special collar that shocks the dog with electricity if it goes beyond the fence. Boomer repeatedly escaped the Pachers' back yard after the fence was installed so the company's "pet consultant" told the Pachers that Boomer needed sandbags attached to his collar to slow him down so he'd get a "greater correction " - a more prolonged zap of electricity transmitted through a metal-pronged collar, according to court papers. After a month, the Pachers asked for another consultation, and this time a second collar - providing a total of six metal prongs - was placed by the company representative snugly around Boomer's neck, and the amount of electricity was increased, the lawsuit states. According to the Pachers' veterinarian, Boomer received second-degree burns on his neck. Usilton said the voltage appears to be a "brutal amount of (electrical) charge to cause that kind of pain and injury," and said Boomer's owners should bear some responsibility for the injuries. Nevertheless, Usilton said the case might "bring to light the stupid, antiquated laws" governing companion animals in Ohio. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Bark Collar? Which one?
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:37:33 GMT, "Tom Ginkel"
wrote: I have a French bulldog that is a very good dog, but often goes to the fence and barks excessively. A little barking is good, but I don't want to alienate the neighbors with constant yapping. Will an anti-bark collar help? She is very trainable and remembers unpleasant consequences very well. Thanks for any help. Tom I use a citronella spray collar on my doxie. It's extremely effective and humane. It helps a ton with safety issues, too, since he'll try to bolt into the street after a passing dog or person unless he's wearing the collar. |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Bark Collar? Which one?
Mason Barge said in
rec.pets.dogs.breeds: I use a citronella spray collar on my doxie. It's extremely effective and humane. How is it humane? The smell lingers - there's no defined end to the pushment that the collar provides. It helps a ton with safety issues, too, since he'll try to bolt into the street after a passing dog or person unless he's wearing the collar. Why do you think that happens? -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
What to do with used Lithium bark-collar, locator collar batteries? | [email protected] | Dog behavior | 9 | February 28th 05 03:00 AM |
Bark collar vs ? for growling? | Steve Bukosky | Dog behavior | 290 | July 19th 04 05:35 AM |
Bark collar vs ? for growling? | Steve Bukosky | Dog behavior | 0 | July 3rd 04 04:42 PM |
Bark collar vs ? for growling? | Steve Bukosky | Dog behavior | 0 | July 3rd 04 04:42 PM |
Bark collar vs ? for growling? | Steve Bukosky | Dog behavior | 0 | July 3rd 04 04:42 PM |