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shelly wrote:
on 2005-06-15 at 15:23 wrote: I am perfectly willing to offer up the sort of advice I think is appropriate, and have done so in other threads. By the time I started reading this particular thread, it was all over but the shouting. that makes no sense to me. you had a choice of offering what you consider to be good, kind help to the OP or chastising someone else. The OP had already declared that she was outta here, so that was not a choice. now, i'm all for the latter (duh!), but under the circumstances, i find your decision odd (hi, diddy!). from where i'm sitting, it looks like you whined about the crap, which ended up adding to the crap. Whined? Hardly I've noticed that the tactic of characterizing comments as "whining" in order to dismiss them has spread from talk radio and the like. (Another thing to thank the right wing for.) I would suggest, though, that "help" with a side of attitude is often no help at all, because it is dismissed. of course. but that wasn't the only flavor of help the OP received. several people, myself included (hi, diddy!), gave her information with nary a smidgen of attitude. Believe me, I do not underestimate the frustration that people feel at the same questions coming over and over, the people asking why they can't do what they like with "their" property (ie, random breed), the people who think dogs are fine tied up in the yard, yadda, yadda, yadda. i think, in this particular case, the frustration stems from the OP seeming, at least, to understand the the breeder she's dealing with is not responsible, but still expressing willingness to deal with her. i don't know about you, but i can perfectly understand being irritated by someone who asks for an opinion, appears to generally understand the given opinion and to agree with it, but who seems bent on disregarding that opinion. what do you say to someone like that? clearly, any kind, helpful information has been and likely will be disregarded. about all you can do, i think, is beat your head against a brick wall, ignore the poster in the future or vent your frustration at them. i can't say i would blame someone for choosing either of the last two options. I don't *blame* someone for being frustrated and venting it. I'm just saying that it's not effective. YMMV. |
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on 2005-06-15 at 16:41 wrote:
The OP had already declared that she was outta here, so that was not a choice. so she did. Whined? Hardly I've noticed that the tactic of characterizing comments as "whining" in order to dismiss them has spread from talk radio and the like. so it's not whining. what is it, then? you called it net nannying. i'm not sure that's any better. (Another thing to thank the right wing for.) good lord. crap is crap, no matter who's piloting the manure spreader. your post struck me as whiny, as in, you were venting about something that's bugging you that you have no hope of changing or controlling. i should know, for i am the Queen of the Whinypantses. I don't *blame* someone for being frustrated and venting it. I'm just saying that it's not effective. YMMV. nor is chastising people to play nicely. okay, from what i can tell, there were 11 nice, kind, helpful replies to the OP (some were blunt, but not unkind). AFAICT there was *one* post that might be construed as "not so nice." message ID: 2sJre.10920$lb5.4671@trnddc04 it appears to me that Christy's sin was to state that she thought--based on the 14 day return policy--that the breeder was "rancid." maybe she could've stated it more nicely, but really, i can't see that she said anything objectionable. it's not like she insulted the OP. or are you referring to the part wherein she stated she thought the OP was ignorant or stubborn? duh! the woman is clearly either ignorant or stubborn--both, more like it. personally, i think Laurie crossed the line into "doesn't deserve the time of day" when she told Melinda to **** off. but even after that, Melinda forgave her and people *still* tried to be helpful. honestly, what more do you want from people? -- shelly http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com/ http://letters-to-esther.blogspot.com/ (updated 4/3/05) |
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"Janet Puistonen" wrote in message news:vbVre.3613$kl1.2548@trndny08... I'm sorry to act like a net nanny, but I've just see this pattern over and over again in this NG over the years, and it gets to me. Did you read my prior responses? I did pretty much exactly as you suggested, and it fell on deaf ears. Sometimes folks respond to a nudge, sometimes you have to hit them with a hammer - this one, I fear, won't respond to anything less than a Mack truck running her over, and mine is in the shop. Christy |
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"diddy" wrote in message ... VERY good. It's not that the message is wrong, but the delivery sucks. Well, you've been a huge educational aid in this thread. Now we all know how to be a hypocrite! Thanks bunches!! Christy |
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"shelly" wrote in message arble.net... it appears to me that Christy's sin was to state that she thought--based on the 14 day return policy--that the breeder was "rancid." maybe she could've stated it more nicely, but really, i can't see that she said anything objectionable. it's not like she insulted the OP. And I'll stand by that. I find that kind of "return policy" rancid, plain and simple. It doesn't mean anything, other than if the puppy has contracted a communicable disease while at the breeders and the symptoms become apparent within that timeframe - basically, a pet store type of "guarantee." A true responsible breeder will at least give as long as it takes for conditions to be diagnosed - 2 years for OFA, lifetime for epilepsy, that sort of thing, and will give support, either financial or with a replacement puppy, without requiring return of the beloved pet. But two weeks? Reeks. or are you referring to the part wherein she stated she thought the OP was ignorant or stubborn? duh! the woman is clearly either ignorant or stubborn--both, more like it. Ignorant isn't a dirty word. Uneducable is worse, and I fear the OP falls into that category. But at any rate, after several posts where I explained potential problems of BYB dogs, and how to find a responsible breeder (which were not sugary sweet but certainly polite) it seemed a waste to continue to pussyfoot around. Anyway, for tact and patience, we have Diane whatsherface - the role of "bad cop" suits me more. Christy |
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BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!
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