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puppies for sale
german shepherd puppies imported lines.4 males 2 females ready june 3
2004 working lines from v and va rated progeny.Belgium german lines 750.00 plus shipping and crate. http://community.webtv.net/samatha51 location odessa texas http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!BE!63!F024E67AD9D6/samatha51/WESTTEXASGERMAN |
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:22:07 -0500 West Texas German Shepherds whittled these words:
german shepherd puppies imported lines.4 males 2 females ready june 3 2004 working lines from v and va rated progeny.Belgium german lines 750.00 plus shipping and crate. http://community.webtv.net/samatha51 location odessa texas Wow, you have no confidence at all in the future health of your puppies. "If this dog develops crippling hip dysplasia at anytime from purchase to one year of age (confirmed by ex-rays from a competent licenced veterinarian).The dog must be returned to us at the expense of the buyer." A one year "guarantee"? I know of pet shops that can do better than that. You want the dog returned? So you are really making sure that no one who actually cares about their dog will ask the "guarantee" to be enforced. If the first puppy ends up crippled so young why on earth would anyone want *another* puppy? A responsible breeder of German Shepherd Dogs will provide a lot more than that. First, at barest minimum the warranty would be for 24 months. But most good breeders give it for much longer, many for the lifetime of the dog. Second, all good breeders warranty on the diagnosis of hip dysplasia, not whether the dog is actually crippled by it. Third, good breeders do not require return of the dog. They will require (if they have not already done so) that the dog be spayed or neutered. "No futher guarantees are made or implied" Well, the warranty regarding hip dysplasia will speak to people who haven't done their homework regarding genetic health issues, but to the educated buyer it shouts that here is a breeder who doesn't care about breeding for genetic health. Because the educated buyer knows that there are other important health issues in the breed. And responsible breeders know this as well and will warranty against the conditions to the extent they are able. And they will clarify the steps they have taken to reduce the risks, because that's all any breeder can do. At $750 these puppies are way overpriced. There is nothing on the website to suggest the sire or dam have been tested for, or shown by any objective standards to have the kinds of qualities one expects from a well bred GSD. A little bite work, a bit of obedience, none of it being proved up by showing any actual accomplishments in those areas. And the empahsis on the puppies being "big" is pathetic. The GSD is not supposed to be a "big" dog. Bigger is not better. I'm amused and saddened by the addition of "AKC" to the sire and dam names as if AKC were some kind of title, or some indication of quality. Any educated puppy buyer knows that "AKC" is nothing more than a birth certificate. AKC can and will register crippled dogs as easily as they will healthy ones, and the same for good and poor breeding. AKC is a pedigree registry, not a guarantor of health, fitness, temperament, nor even consistency with breed quality and standards. And no wonder the breeder has so little confidence in the health of his puppies. The poor dam isn't even fully mature and she's already had a litter. No responsible breeder would breed a GSD at less than 2 years of age. And this one won't even be a one year old until Sunday. Am I angry? You bet I am. I'm sick and tired of dogs dying because of people who can't be bothered to learn. I just wish people would actually get involved in rescuing their breed BEFORE they add more to the population. Save some, learn how to stop the killing before putting more puppies in that situation. There are far more GSDs in shelters than GSD rescue can hope to save. There is absolutely no reason to breed dogs with so little thought and caring, and even less reason for anyone to encourage that kind of breeding by buying such a carelessly bred puppy. Anyone who doesn't mind breedings with so little behind it can easily get that same kind of puppy from rescue, with just a tad of patience. -- Diane Blackman http://dog-play.com/ http://dog-play.com/shop2.html |
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Check the pricing page Diane!
There will be six suckers somewhere who'll buy these ;o( Sue |
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Diane said in rec.pets.dogs.breeds:
At $750 these puppies are way overpriced. But purchasers will be able to earn their money back; from the pricing page: "NO LIMITED REGISTRATION AT ALL". I'm surprised that the females aren't being sold for more. -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
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"West Texas German Shepherds" wrote in message ... german shepherd puppies imported lines.4 males 2 females ready june 3 2004 working lines from v and va rated progeny.Belgium german lines 750.00 plus shipping and crate. http://community.webtv.net/samatha51 location odessa texas http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!BE!63!F024E67AD9D6/samatha51/WESTTEXASGERMAN my boyfriend has a petstore. his puppy mill breeder was shut down by the authorities.. would you consider becoming his new supplier? |
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The responses to a single email I sent regarding puppies for sale...
email #1 your opinion is well noted and I thank you for your imput,but I have my reasons for doing what I did.i did improve the breed also this will be the only breeding I will do for at least 2 years. my dogs wont end up in rescue I can guarantee that. can you? Anyway again thank y ou for your opinions and have a nice day.I spend more time with my dogs than most people I care for their wellfare and well being and I dont do it for the money do you regards email #2 (apparently after rereading my original email and getting mad) one question where is your location and what state are you in.for my own personally information if you care to reveal it and your organization if any. if you are a breeder your breed and years of expieerence I did not take the time to fix any of her grammatical errors. Also, did any notice that the male #3 photo and the picture labeled another female photo are the same? I was raised with a GSD an he was simply the best dog I have ever owned. Max was a black and tan, and was kind enough to give us all sixteen years of his life. How anyone could simply see them as investments is quite disturbing to me. I have been reading from this newsgroup for a good while now and this bothered me too much to just read on past. Sorry if I ramble. wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:22:07 -0500 West Texas German Shepherds whittled these words: german shepherd puppies imported lines.4 males 2 females ready june 3 2004 working lines from v and va rated progeny.Belgium german lines 750.00 plus shipping and crate. http://community.webtv.net/samatha51 location odessa texas Wow, you have no confidence at all in the future health of your puppies. "If this dog develops crippling hip dysplasia at anytime from purchase to one year of age (confirmed by ex-rays from a competent licenced veterinarian).The dog must be returned to us at the expense of the buyer." A one year "guarantee"? I know of pet shops that can do better than that. You want the dog returned? So you are really making sure that no one who actually cares about their dog will ask the "guarantee" to be enforced. If the first puppy ends up crippled so young why on earth would anyone want *another* puppy? A responsible breeder of German Shepherd Dogs will provide a lot more than that. First, at barest minimum the warranty would be for 24 months. But most good breeders give it for much longer, many for the lifetime of the dog. Second, all good breeders warranty on the diagnosis of hip dysplasia, not whether the dog is actually crippled by it. Third, good breeders do not require return of the dog. They will require (if they have not already done so) that the dog be spayed or neutered. "No futher guarantees are made or implied" Well, the warranty regarding hip dysplasia will speak to people who haven't done their homework regarding genetic health issues, but to the educated buyer it shouts that here is a breeder who doesn't care about breeding for genetic health. Because the educated buyer knows that there are other important health issues in the breed. And responsible breeders know this as well and will warranty against the conditions to the extent they are able. And they will clarify the steps they have taken to reduce the risks, because that's all any breeder can do. At $750 these puppies are way overpriced. There is nothing on the website to suggest the sire or dam have been tested for, or shown by any objective standards to have the kinds of qualities one expects from a well bred GSD. A little bite work, a bit of obedience, none of it being proved up by showing any actual accomplishments in those areas. And the empahsis on the puppies being "big" is pathetic. The GSD is not supposed to be a "big" dog. Bigger is not better. I'm amused and saddened by the addition of "AKC" to the sire and dam names as if AKC were some kind of title, or some indication of quality. Any educated puppy buyer knows that "AKC" is nothing more than a birth certificate. AKC can and will register crippled dogs as easily as they will healthy ones, and the same for good and poor breeding. AKC is a pedigree registry, not a guarantor of health, fitness, temperament, nor even consistency with breed quality and standards. And no wonder the breeder has so little confidence in the health of his puppies. The poor dam isn't even fully mature and she's already had a litter. No responsible breeder would breed a GSD at less than 2 years of age. And this one won't even be a one year old until Sunday. Am I angry? You bet I am. I'm sick and tired of dogs dying because of people who can't be bothered to learn. I just wish people would actually get involved in rescuing their breed BEFORE they add more to the population. Save some, learn how to stop the killing before putting more puppies in that situation. There are far more GSDs in shelters than GSD rescue can hope to save. There is absolutely no reason to breed dogs with so little thought and caring, and even less reason for anyone to encourage that kind of breeding by buying such a carelessly bred puppy. Anyone who doesn't mind breedings with so little behind it can easily get that same kind of puppy from rescue, with just a tad of patience. -- Diane Blackman http://dog-play.com/ http://dog-play.com/shop2.html |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:42:13 -0400 whittled these words: the thing that has ruined shepards is the need to lower the back end which has lead to enourmous amount of hip problems in the breed just lok at the dogs back end to see what i mean If the theory is that a "straight back" is less likely to result in poor hips then we should be able to predict the incidence of CHD based on conformation. Well, let's give it a try. Here are 12 breeds I've listed in reverse alphabetical order. St. Bernard Shih Tzu Pug Old English Sheepdog Mastiff Kuvasz Golden Retriever Giant Schnauzer German Shepherd Dog Chow Chow Chesapeake Bay Retriever Bullmastiff American Bulldog To test the theory we can try predicting the order in which the above dogs appear in the CHD rankings, then compare our predictions to the actual rankings. What order did you apply to these breeds? The actual rankings can be found at: http://www.offa.org/hdstats.html CHD is an important problem in the German Shepherd Dog (note the spelling of Shepherd), but it is not the breed's most important problem, nor is the GSD even among the top twenty dog breeds in terms of rate affected by the problem. And while the conformation of the american show GSD has changed over the years the rate of CHD in the breed has been declining. The rate of incidence of CHD in a breed is most strongly related to the commitment of breeders to reduce or eliminate it. And without in anyway minimizing the heartbreak and distress the disorder can cause it is, at least, a condition that is currently treatable in most cases. That is not to say we should breed affected dogs. But I'd rather end up with a CHD GSD than one with Degenerative Myelopathy, Perianal Fistulas or Megaesophagus. The over empahsis of CHD to the exclusion of concern about other important genetic health issues is a real problem for the breed. -- Diane Blackman http://dog-play.com/ http://dog-play.com/shop2.html |
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