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Reaction to Advantage?
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 09:11:40 -0500, montana wildhack
, clicked their heels and said: Has anyone else had or seen a reaction like this? I don't use the stuff, but have heard similar. Why not just treat the new dog prior to bringing her home? Any self-serve dog washes? We have 2 close to my house - handy if there's someone questionable to bring home! -- Janet Boss www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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on 2006-11-01 at 09:11 wrote:
Has anyone else had or seen a reaction like this? I used to use Frontline for ticks. Elliott really did not like having drops applied. He'd run and hide whenever he saw me get them out. That was *completely* out of character for him. And, like Bella, he would run around like a crazy dog after they were applied. I think he found the smell *hugely* unacceptable, and I can't say that I blame him. That was another reason I switched to using amitraz collars for ticks. -- Shelly (Warning: see label for details) http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) |
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Are you using Advantage or Advantix ? The differences is that Advantage
doesn't contain a certain chemical that is found in Advantix that gets rid of tics (Pyrethrins). Advantix has been known to cause some issues with tremors and stuff (it's all in the fine print), but not advantage. Pyrethrins are one of the most widely used insecticides in today's flea and tick products and have been used as insecticides for over 100 years. Pyrethrins are natural extracts made from flowers of chrysanthemum plants. These plants grow naturally in the Middle East, Europe, Japan, and most importantly, Kenya. There are six different pyrethrins: pyrethrin I and II, cinevin I and II, and jasmolin I and II. All six are found in flea and tick products, but generally, the label only reads 'Pyrethrin,' regardless of which of the six types is actually present in advantix. If it was advantage that caused the issue, then simply switch to frontline. If that does something similar, check with your vet, but I would switch to Adams which is a spray that must be applied about once a week and it's not a prescription. TW "Shelly" wrote in message arble.net... on 2006-11-01 at 09:11 wrote: Has anyone else had or seen a reaction like this? I used to use Frontline for ticks. Elliott really did not like having drops applied. He'd run and hide whenever he saw me get them out. That was *completely* out of character for him. And, like Bella, he would run around like a crazy dog after they were applied. I think he found the smell *hugely* unacceptable, and I can't say that I blame him. That was another reason I switched to using amitraz collars for ticks. -- Shelly (Warning: see label for details) http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) |
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on 2006-11-01 at 09:47 wrote:
Are you using Advantage or Advantix ? Neither. I used to use Frontline for ticks, but several years ago I switched to amitraz collars. I'm very happy with the results, but that doesn't help Montana, as her concern is fleas, not ticks. The differences is that Advantage doesn't contain a certain chemical that is found in Advantix that gets rid of tics (Pyrethrins). Advantix has been known to cause some issues with tremors and stuff (it's all in the fine print), but not advantage. I wouldn't touch Advantix with a barge pole. Pyrethrins are one of the most widely used insecticides in today's flea and tick products and have been used as insecticides for over 100 years. Pyrethrins are natural extracts made from flowers of chrysanthemum plants. Natural != equal "magically safe" but generally, the label only reads 'Pyrethrin,' regardless of which of the six types is actually present in advantix. Pyrethroid toxicosis is a problem in cats. As I have an elderly cat, I am careful about which tick products I use. http://www.vetmedpub.com/vetmed/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=334605 http://www.dvmnewsmagazine.com/dvm/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=62240 If it was advantage that caused the issue, then simply switch to frontline. I *was* using Frontline. It proved unsatisfactory in controlling ticks, for a number of reasons. If that does something similar, check with your vet, but I would switch to Adams which is a spray that must be applied about once a week and it's not a prescription. I believe Adams products contain pyrethrins, actually. -- Shelly (Warning: see label for details) http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) |
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Yesterday I decided to put some Advantage on Bella, because she's been
itchy and because we may be getting a new dog who I'm pretty sure has fleas. A few dogs will have an uncomfortable feeling with the first application. If you are concerned, call the toll free number on the package and talk to a Bayer rep. -Sharon |
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on Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:28:24 GMT, montana wildhack
wrote: That would have made sense. Since I know she reacts like this, I'll call before I use it again (or call the vet). This is the first dog that had any reaction at all, and I really wasn't sure what was bothering her - the smell or the feeling of the drops. If it's the drops, I can "baptize" her until she gets used to it. if you aren't concerned about ticks, you may want to consider switching to Frontline. There is very little to no odor, and I've had several people tell me they think it does a better job of controlling fleas than Advantage. -- Lynne |
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on 2006-11-01 at 12:24 wrote:
I think the drops felt weird and the smell is pretty bad. I immediately washed my hands, but afterwards, we were in a closed room and not only did I find the smell offensive, I felt some numbness in my tongue. This is a similar to one of the reactions I have to eucalyptus (a "natural" flea repellant, by the way). I noticed the same thing with Frontline. Numb lips, tongue, and the smell made me headachy. I'm super sensitive to smells, though, and I'm allergic to all sorts of environmental stuff, so I tend to assume that when I have a reaction to something, it's Just Me. (Don't get me started on the vileness that is Lysol wipes. A coworker uses them obsessively on her desk, and the smell is enough to make me have a Linda Blair episode.) I'm not worried about ticks, I'm just concerned about potential fleas from the new dog. I think Janet had the best suggestion, to take the new dog to a wash-n-go place. Assuming there is such a thing in your area, of course. -- Shelly (Warning: see label for details) http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) |
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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:53:21 -0600, Lynne
wrote: on Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:28:24 GMT, montana wildhack wrote: That would have made sense. Since I know she reacts like this, I'll call before I use it again (or call the vet). This is the first dog that had any reaction at all, and I really wasn't sure what was bothering her - the smell or the feeling of the drops. If it's the drops, I can "baptize" her until she gets used to it. if you aren't concerned about ticks, you may want to consider switching to Frontline. There is very little to no odor, and I've had several people tell me they think it does a better job of controlling fleas than Advantage. My experience is the opposite; Frontline hasn't worked as well for fleas or ticks. Mustang Sally |
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now this is a post i like-we have had a big battle over here in new
zealand in the main veterinary services - Advantage or frontline.... well as i have seen many various products used on many different breeds/sex/age. i think personally frontline is better but...i think it all depends on the dogs/cats themselves. from what you are saying i would say an allergic reaction, i woodnt recommand using this product again..but then it is your dog....dogs dont 'need' to be flead unless they have fleas, and you should flea both dogs together as the new dog could have other unseen little creatures hiding somewhere else if you say you think she already has fleas..... but you no this is only my opinion montana wildhack wrote: Yesterday I decided to put some Advantage on Bella, because she's been itchy and because we may be getting a new dog who I'm pretty sure has fleas. From her reaction, you would have thought that I had dropped acid on her back. She completely freaked out and was running around like a nut for the rest of the day. Today she is behaving normally. Now, Bella is a little princess and that may be part of it - it smells and she's not used to it. I don't think she's had a flea treatment since she was a puppy (hasn't needed it). Has anyone else had or seen a reaction like this? |
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"Shelly" wrote in message arble.net... on 2006-11-01 at 12:24 wrote: I think Janet had the best suggestion, to take the new dog to a wash-n-go place. Assuming there is such a thing in your area, of course. .........that would mean letting the dog dry and for Advantage, waiting two days to apply. buglady take out the dog before replying |
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