Bichon Frise Stud Wanted

Hi,

I have a seven pound champion blood line Bichon female, 9 1/2 inches at
the withers. She has show ribbons. I am seeking a less than 10 lb
stud, preferably near New Orleans.

We have had bichons for over 20 years; she is our fourth. We had three
litters with our late female Gidget. Love to have puppies and
understand the work involved.

Please respond.

wrote in message
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Hi,

I have a seven pound champion blood line Bichon female, 9 1/2 inches at
the withers. She has show ribbons. I am seeking a less than 10 lb
stud, preferably near New Orleans.

ooh, show ribbons! my humane society pit bull has show ribbons too! maybe
i should breed her? oops, too late, i already had her spayed.

just think of all the money i could have made!


-kelly

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Date: 1/20/2005 9:53 PM Eastern Standard Time
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We have had bichons for over 20 years; she is our fourth. We had three
litters with our late female Gidget. Love to have puppies and
understand the work involved.

You've been active in your breed (presuming), showing, proving, health testing
and responsibly whelping, raising and placing puppies and you must come to an
internet discussion group looking for a stud dog?

Are there no suitable dogs at the shows you attend?

Within the clubs you belong to?

No responsible breeders at all on the Bichon lists where you post to compare
notes and to brag on your pups' accomplishments?

No friends in the breed whose dogs you admire?

That seems rather odd to me.

Your post smacks of someone that is completely clueless to the responsibility
of producing puppies that are sound in body and mind. Someone who wants to
pump out litter after litter with their pet so that they can contribute to the
classified section of their local newspaper... not to mention, Bichon
rescue....

Please respond.

Well, you did say please.

Robin

wrote:
I have a seven pound champion blood line Bichon female, 9 1/2 inches at
the withers. She has show ribbons.

Uh.... "she has show ribbons"? What's that supposed to mean? Are
they from matches? Is she pointed? Or is this like the guy who
bragged a few years back that his dog beat 7 others but when
someone looked up the show results the other dogs were all no
shows and his dog had had winners and breed withheld to boot?

I'm just really trying to figure out what you're actually saying
here. There's ribbons and then there's ribbons, you see. I'm
usually not much for jargon, but there *are* times it's necessary
and this is one of them. So if you'd said "she has ten points,
both majors, and a group placement from the classes" that would
tell an educated person a lot. But "she has show ribbons" just
doesn't. Can you elaborate, please?

Dianne

culprit wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi,

I have a seven pound champion blood line Bichon female, 9 1/2
inches at
the withers. She has show ribbons. I am seeking a less than 10 lb
stud, preferably near New Orleans.

ooh, show ribbons! my humane society pit bull has show ribbons too!
maybe
i should breed her? oops, too late, i already had her spayed.

just think of all the money i could have made!


-kelly

Dear Kelly'
Make money on breeding a pet? You're not serious?!
Kingston's Lady of Shiloh won first place ribbons at the Mississippi
Kennel Club show at Jackson (1/03), at Houston for the Houston Kennel
Club (3/03) and at the Greenville Kenel Club Show (1/ 03) plus a
reserve winner ribbon at the latter. Winning first place ribbons means
the dog has no disqualifying faults at minimum. Frequently judges give
a second or third place ribbon with only one entry if they believe the
only entry is of inferior quality. Of course the grooming, lodging,
entry fees are all " free" to your thinking. Our dog has excellent
temperament, loves all dogs (pit bulls and great danes, too) and has
excellent coat, 3 Champion grandparents, parents with points, great
proportions, good pigment, etc. There are few Bichons of half her
quality in the Gulf Coast Region
ergo I have a list of people who would love a puppy.
I will breed my dog for love of the breed, for the joy of raising the
puppies, and knowing full well that no money will be made from the
breeding.

wrote in message
oups.com...
Dear Kelly'
Make money on breeding a pet? You're not serious?!
Kingston's Lady of Shiloh won first place ribbons at the Mississippi
Kennel Club show at Jackson (1/03), at Houston for the Houston Kennel
Club (3/03) and at the Greenville Kenel Club Show (1/ 03) plus a
reserve winner ribbon at the latter.

what does this mean? are these AKC clubs? what are the "ribbons" for?
BIB? BIG? BIS? please explain this a bit more.

my dog has "ribbons" from pound pup and rescue "competitions", does that
make her breedworthy? heck no!

-kelly

Dear Robin,
Thank you for all your kind remarks. As, you may have noted, I have
had 3 litters of puppies in 20 years. I hardly would consider this
"pumping out litter after litter." Most of the dogs in the shows are
in the 15-17 pound range, much too large for my Lady. With my 15 pound
(late) Gidget, this would not have been a problem.

Lady has an excellent disposition, good proportions, great pigment, no
allergies, beautiful coat, and a very slight underbite. We've taken
her to Dr. Duke, a vet orthodontist, in Mobile who said this is a minor
cosmetic problem (could be corrected by braces but this is forbidden in
AKC shows) and he would not discourage breeding her in light of all of
her other atributes. My daughter, a veterinarian in N. Carolina,
agrees, as does Dr. Pelle at Causeway Animal Hospital here. None of
the vets, the groomers, the obedience or conformation trainers my dog
has had know of any quality small intact males in this area. They
advised looking on the internet or advertising in the paper.
There are no Bichon Clubs in this area. Lady came from Pa. where we
used to live. One of her direct line, Panama Jack, was the stud
champion for Gidget. My dogs are known there. I still hear from
people who love my puppies. We were going to co-own a show dog but
were transferred to Warsaw, Poland, Our Bichons flew business class on
Lot Polish Airlines instead of in the luggage compartment so we could
be more comfortable on a more luxurious airline. But we're just in it
for the money. I volunteer as well at a nursing home on Mondays, at a
hospital Thursdays and Fridays, and at Church--all for the money!! God
bless!

On 21 Jan 2005 18:25:17 -0800, wrote:

Our dog has excellent temperament, loves all dogs (pit bulls and great danes, too) and has excellent coat, 3 Champion grandparents, parents with points, great proportions, good pigment, etc. There are few Bichons of half her quality in the Gulf Coast Region ergo I have a list of people who would love a puppy. I will breed my dog for love of the breed, for the joy of raising the puppies, and knowing full well that no money will be made from the breeding.

Can I ask what health tests you're dog has had done? And I don't mean
the standard tests we all have done on our dogs yearly. Have you had
any genetic testing done on your dog to rule out any heredity
diseases?

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Lady has first place ribbons for the 9-12 month females as well as
puppy best of breed for AKC shows in Jackson and Greenville,
Mississippi (!/03) and from the Houston Kennel Club Show (3/03).
There's also a "Reserve Winner" ribbon from the Greenville Kennel Club
Show. This means to me that , while she may have minor flaws, she has
no major disqualifying ones and is of better quality than anything I've
seen while looking for a dog in this area. I bought her from a breeder
(kingston) whose champion stud services I used when we lived in Pa. As
a prospective show dog she cost $1500. Her parents have points and 3
of her grandparents are champions.