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Science Diet, nutrients and quality ingredients?
Why can't Science Diet have both the proper nutrients and quality
ingredients? It is so obvious that SD uses cast off filler. There is no reason for any dogfood to contain soy meal, or peanut hulls or cellulose. If they are really interested in pet nutrition then why can't they use the same human grade ingredients that companies like Innova or Canidea use and then use the nutrient profiles that SD expouses? |
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lolajo,
First of all, there is no such thing as "human grade". That means absolutely nothing. I could package horse manure, some ground up leather shoes, and lawn clippings and label it "human grade". The correct and legal term is "human edible" - you will notice that none of the companies claiming "human grade" ever use the legal term "human edible". For years companies claimed they were "organic", then that term was defined under law. For years companies claimed they were "natural" then that term was defined under law. Of the hundreds of companies that claimed to be organic only three pet foods still qualify, of the hundreds that claimed to be "natural" less than a couple dozen still qualify. Each time the law catches up with such nonsense claims - these companies do a quick retreat and invent a new name. "Holistic" is currently in vogue. Stand by for AAFCO, USDA to legally define "human grade" over the next couple years. You can bet that 99.9% of the companies currently making that claim will run for cover and switch to the next Madison Ave marketing claim. You can fooled by Madison Avenue marketing cliams like "human grade" if you choose. But why not do yourself a favor and ask a company making such claims to show you where in the law or pet food regulations the term "human grade" is defined. If you want to trust these companies why not make them prove it to you. Make them prove that the claims they are making are real - find the legally codified definition of "human grade" as it applies to pet foods. In regards to the usual nonsensical diatribe about peanut hulls and cellulose - What nonsense. Both are used by pet food companies as insoluble fiber for weight control. Ever hear of the dieting and eating things like carrots, celery, etc? What do you think the cellulose content of celery and carrots are?? The use of insoluble fiber has been proven in peer reviewed published clinical trials to cause dogs to feel full. This is called satiety. This keeps them from begging, which keep pet owners from giving in and giving them more to eat which they don't need. Try again - maybe you can find something real to harangue the NG about. |
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Paws - that's just nonsense. The American Insitute of Baking is the
same group that examines all human baking establishments. Yes it is an industry organization - the same one that inspects your human foods. from thier website AIB International has established a reputation for providing food safety solutions to a variety of companies, large and small, by building client relationships that extends beyond merely conducting food safety audits. AIB auditors are involved in every step of the food supply chain, and our clients have come to trust them as an invaluable resource in their continuous commitment to producing, packing, and distributing safe, high-quality foods. For those of you eating General Mills cereals - the Hill's plant has never failed to score higher on surprise inspection audits than the General Mills plant across the river. In the last inspection the Hill's plant scored a "superior" rating. |
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John,
Ahh Logic - what an amazing thing. I love it when people do the math and the numbers make the argument without any further ado. You are clearly correct, if consumer think they are getting filet mignon at 50 cents a pound - that's just nonsense. Good going! |
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As already mentioned, it's all about Profit. Pure and Simple.
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So my questin still wasn't aswered by the SD expert(s). Whether or not
Innova or Canidae or any other higher end dog food really uses high or low grade meat, Why does SD use low grade ingredience? I would be in SD's corner if they used brown rice or flaxseed instead of peanut hulls. Or chicken meal instead of soy meal. Why do the have to use such shitty ingredience? My old vet who was really old, told me that Hill's used to be a great company when they were independent. But when they got bought up buy these corporations like their current owners Colgate-Palmolive their ingredience had really gone down hill. He could no longer prescribe their use. I would love to see the ingredience that they used to have when they were independent and owned by their founder. One thing I do remember is that when I was a kid in the 60's and 70's the big dogs in our neigborhood all ate dog foods like Alpo, Kennel Ration, Kal Kan and their poop quickly turned to white then to powder. Now dog's poop that are on any of the popular dry diets turns black and takes forever to break down. PS. When I asked a friend of mine who is a manager at a PetsMart why they don't carry foods like Innova and Canidae. She said that PetsMart will only carry foods at a certain price point so if Innova will not lower their price down far enough for PetsMart to make the profit they want to make on each bag, then it doesn't get carried. |
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