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Zipper's first MACH points (and video links)



 
 
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Old August 4th 09, 03:53 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.activities
sionnach
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"Rocky" said:

I've judged tens of thousands of dogs on the teeter and have
never seen a problem with properly-trained small or large dogs


Which directly implies that you've seen problems you attribute to "poor
training". Of course, if your mind is locked in to the idea that there
can't POSSIBLY be a problem with the teeter (since your teeters are
uniformly perfect), you WOULD interpret any problems you see as being the
dog's or trainer's fault.

I'm betting that a more impartial observer would see things a bit
differently.

Of course, AAC trials are not held on hard surfaces.


Surface has nothing to do with the problems I've seen, although a surface
which prevents staking down the teeter can exacerbate them.


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Old August 4th 09, 04:08 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.activities
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"sionnach" said in
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"Rocky" said:

I've judged tens of thousands of dogs on the teeter and
have never seen a problem with properly-trained small or
large dogs


Which directly implies that you've seen problems you
attribute to "poor training".


No.

Of course, if your mind is locked in to the
idea that there can't POSSIBLY be a problem with the teeter
(since your teeters are uniformly perfect), you WOULD
interpret any problems you see as being the dog's or
trainer's fault.


No.

I'm betting that a more impartial observer would see things
a bit differently.


I'm sorry that you're having a bad day. I'll see ya around.

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--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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Old August 4th 09, 05:08 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.activities
sionnach
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Default Zipper's first MACH points (and video links)


"Rocky" said:

I've judged tens of thousands of dogs on the teeter and
have never seen a problem with properly-trained small or
large dogs


Which directly implies that you've seen problems you
attribute to "poor training".


No.


So - you're saying you've never seen any problems on the teeter, full
stop??

I'm sorry that you're having a bad day. I'll see ya around.


I'm not "having a bad day". I simply don't believe that AAC dogs never have
teeter problems, nor that weighting teeters as you describe is a magic
solution for the problems they can present to small dogs. There are many
more factors to teeter safety for small dogs than the rate at which the
teeter drops forward; see Robin's post for more information.


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Old August 4th 09, 06:14 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.activities
Robin Nuttall
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sionnach wrote:
"Rocky" said:



I'm not "having a bad day". I simply don't believe that AAC dogs never have
teeter problems, nor that weighting teeters as you describe is a magic
solution for the problems they can present to small dogs. There are many
more factors to teeter safety for small dogs than the rate at which the
teeter drops forward; see Robin's post for more information.


I actually think a lot teeter problems are applicable to all dogs, not
just small dogs. Board whip is a huge problem for lighter smaller dogs,
but bucking and jumping is more likely with heavier dogs. A sharp drop
is more likely to affect dogs of any size who ride the end down. I
personally think teaching the dog to fly out to the very end and ride it
down is not good training with a very few exceptions (i.e., I've seen
good performances by dogs who do a crouch-and-slide past the pivot,
versus dogs who make no effort to control the drop at all).

Zipper will never have a blazing fast teeter, though his teeter at home
is far faster than those at trials right now. I'm okay with that,
because my goals for him are a MACH, not World Team or anything like
that. He rides the teeter down at a comfortable point past the pivot
then trots off. Hopping off really doesn't happen that often.
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Old August 4th 09, 06:35 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.activities
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"sionnach" said in
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I'm not "having a bad day".


You were incredibly insulting instead of being informatively
argumentative. You're in my Gwen filter (or will be when I
restart Xnews). See you in a week or so.

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--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
 




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