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"culprit" wrote in message
... a lot of people don't even believe it exists in children, let alone dogs. :-) I used to be one of those people...well I figured it existed but not on the scale it does. but yeah, i think there are probably ADD dogs out there. i hardly think it would be appropriate to try to treat it chemically though. you'd just have to try to learn how to live with them, i guess. That's the problem though. For alot of these dogs few owners can live with it..without relegating the dog to 24/7 outside living. I believe Prozac is probably the medicine of choice for this problem in dogs although I'm not entirely sure of that. IMO, if there's a medication to help, when the problem is an internal one where training is made difficult to impossible, then its kind of like punishing the dog for things it can't help, same with kids. If there's a legitimate problem inside the brain, one that negatively impacts their ability to function properly and be happy (not always being yelled at or sent away), then it makes sense to treat it. i think Lola has Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Separation Anxiety, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and Panic Disorder. my cat Mo is surely Schizophrenic (he has long involved conversations with things only he can see). i think Manu is the only normal one in the house. My pets only have man-syndrome. IOW they hear what they want, when they want, and all else is just noise. -- Tara |
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"culprit" wrote in message
... a lot of people don't even believe it exists in children, let alone dogs. :-) I used to be one of those people...well I figured it existed but not on the scale it does. but yeah, i think there are probably ADD dogs out there. i hardly think it would be appropriate to try to treat it chemically though. you'd just have to try to learn how to live with them, i guess. That's the problem though. For alot of these dogs few owners can live with it..without relegating the dog to 24/7 outside living. I believe Prozac is probably the medicine of choice for this problem in dogs although I'm not entirely sure of that. IMO, if there's a medication to help, when the problem is an internal one where training is made difficult to impossible, then its kind of like punishing the dog for things it can't help, same with kids. If there's a legitimate problem inside the brain, one that negatively impacts their ability to function properly and be happy (not always being yelled at or sent away), then it makes sense to treat it. i think Lola has Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Separation Anxiety, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and Panic Disorder. my cat Mo is surely Schizophrenic (he has long involved conversations with things only he can see). i think Manu is the only normal one in the house. My pets only have man-syndrome. IOW they hear what they want, when they want, and all else is just noise. -- Tara |
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"culprit" wrote in message
... a lot of people don't even believe it exists in children, let alone dogs. :-) I used to be one of those people...well I figured it existed but not on the scale it does. but yeah, i think there are probably ADD dogs out there. i hardly think it would be appropriate to try to treat it chemically though. you'd just have to try to learn how to live with them, i guess. That's the problem though. For alot of these dogs few owners can live with it..without relegating the dog to 24/7 outside living. I believe Prozac is probably the medicine of choice for this problem in dogs although I'm not entirely sure of that. IMO, if there's a medication to help, when the problem is an internal one where training is made difficult to impossible, then its kind of like punishing the dog for things it can't help, same with kids. If there's a legitimate problem inside the brain, one that negatively impacts their ability to function properly and be happy (not always being yelled at or sent away), then it makes sense to treat it. i think Lola has Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Separation Anxiety, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and Panic Disorder. my cat Mo is surely Schizophrenic (he has long involved conversations with things only he can see). i think Manu is the only normal one in the house. My pets only have man-syndrome. IOW they hear what they want, when they want, and all else is just noise. -- Tara |
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There's also hyper-reactivity.... which is not the same as
hyperactivity. Hyperactivity was the Wirehair Pointing Griffon a student owned.... The dog fit Tara's description beautifully. Indeed, the owners were ready to pull their hair out. The vet put him on Prozac and it slightly reduced the activity level, but made no change in evidence of learning. They tried a stimulant, not Ritalin... one of the others... and there was enough improvement to save his home.... but he was still much busier than normal for this active breed. A couple of years later, he developed multi-system failure and died quickly... not drug related.. Hyper-reactivity is the dog that can stand still, rest on a lap, and learn, often quite quickly, but that over-reacts to the whole world! That's my Schroeder. He was pretty unbearable at times, too, but I could talk-him-down, relax him with massage, or bring things to a halt with a sit or down. Fortunately he had a strong desire to please and loved doing tricks and short obedience command combinations, and some of that energy could be burned off that way. He was the first dog to notice the moving squirrel, and go for it (now, he sends the puppy to chase it for him.... funny to watch). He would startle into a hover above ground if a door slammed. The mere sound of the Dremel sent him into a swivet. And as he approached middle age, he developed fear of thunder and fireworks. At 11, he's still Very active... and very reactive. In five years of trying, he got one Novice obedience leg... it was exceptionally unstimulating in the building when he was in the ring that day... and the judge was generous. In real life, he's very obedient, and in training, he loves Rally, grinning his way around the ring with a prance. Using voice and hand signals, I can hold his attention on me, not on the environment. He's a great little therapy dog and a World Class Bed Dog every night. Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia |
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There's also hyper-reactivity.... which is not the same as
hyperactivity. Hyperactivity was the Wirehair Pointing Griffon a student owned.... The dog fit Tara's description beautifully. Indeed, the owners were ready to pull their hair out. The vet put him on Prozac and it slightly reduced the activity level, but made no change in evidence of learning. They tried a stimulant, not Ritalin... one of the others... and there was enough improvement to save his home.... but he was still much busier than normal for this active breed. A couple of years later, he developed multi-system failure and died quickly... not drug related.. Hyper-reactivity is the dog that can stand still, rest on a lap, and learn, often quite quickly, but that over-reacts to the whole world! That's my Schroeder. He was pretty unbearable at times, too, but I could talk-him-down, relax him with massage, or bring things to a halt with a sit or down. Fortunately he had a strong desire to please and loved doing tricks and short obedience command combinations, and some of that energy could be burned off that way. He was the first dog to notice the moving squirrel, and go for it (now, he sends the puppy to chase it for him.... funny to watch). He would startle into a hover above ground if a door slammed. The mere sound of the Dremel sent him into a swivet. And as he approached middle age, he developed fear of thunder and fireworks. At 11, he's still Very active... and very reactive. In five years of trying, he got one Novice obedience leg... it was exceptionally unstimulating in the building when he was in the ring that day... and the judge was generous. In real life, he's very obedient, and in training, he loves Rally, grinning his way around the ring with a prance. Using voice and hand signals, I can hold his attention on me, not on the environment. He's a great little therapy dog and a World Class Bed Dog every night. Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia |
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There's also hyper-reactivity.... which is not the same as
hyperactivity. Hyperactivity was the Wirehair Pointing Griffon a student owned.... The dog fit Tara's description beautifully. Indeed, the owners were ready to pull their hair out. The vet put him on Prozac and it slightly reduced the activity level, but made no change in evidence of learning. They tried a stimulant, not Ritalin... one of the others... and there was enough improvement to save his home.... but he was still much busier than normal for this active breed. A couple of years later, he developed multi-system failure and died quickly... not drug related.. Hyper-reactivity is the dog that can stand still, rest on a lap, and learn, often quite quickly, but that over-reacts to the whole world! That's my Schroeder. He was pretty unbearable at times, too, but I could talk-him-down, relax him with massage, or bring things to a halt with a sit or down. Fortunately he had a strong desire to please and loved doing tricks and short obedience command combinations, and some of that energy could be burned off that way. He was the first dog to notice the moving squirrel, and go for it (now, he sends the puppy to chase it for him.... funny to watch). He would startle into a hover above ground if a door slammed. The mere sound of the Dremel sent him into a swivet. And as he approached middle age, he developed fear of thunder and fireworks. At 11, he's still Very active... and very reactive. In five years of trying, he got one Novice obedience leg... it was exceptionally unstimulating in the building when he was in the ring that day... and the judge was generous. In real life, he's very obedient, and in training, he loves Rally, grinning his way around the ring with a prance. Using voice and hand signals, I can hold his attention on me, not on the environment. He's a great little therapy dog and a World Class Bed Dog every night. Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia |
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There's also hyper-reactivity.... which is not the same as
hyperactivity. Hyperactivity was the Wirehair Pointing Griffon a student owned.... The dog fit Tara's description beautifully. Indeed, the owners were ready to pull their hair out. The vet put him on Prozac and it slightly reduced the activity level, but made no change in evidence of learning. They tried a stimulant, not Ritalin... one of the others... and there was enough improvement to save his home.... but he was still much busier than normal for this active breed. A couple of years later, he developed multi-system failure and died quickly... not drug related.. Hyper-reactivity is the dog that can stand still, rest on a lap, and learn, often quite quickly, but that over-reacts to the whole world! That's my Schroeder. He was pretty unbearable at times, too, but I could talk-him-down, relax him with massage, or bring things to a halt with a sit or down. Fortunately he had a strong desire to please and loved doing tricks and short obedience command combinations, and some of that energy could be burned off that way. He was the first dog to notice the moving squirrel, and go for it (now, he sends the puppy to chase it for him.... funny to watch). He would startle into a hover above ground if a door slammed. The mere sound of the Dremel sent him into a swivet. And as he approached middle age, he developed fear of thunder and fireworks. At 11, he's still Very active... and very reactive. In five years of trying, he got one Novice obedience leg... it was exceptionally unstimulating in the building when he was in the ring that day... and the judge was generous. In real life, he's very obedient, and in training, he loves Rally, grinning his way around the ring with a prance. Using voice and hand signals, I can hold his attention on me, not on the environment. He's a great little therapy dog and a World Class Bed Dog every night. Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia |
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C. L. wrote: There's no such thing as ADHD in humans either. It's all a myth that the drug companies got everyone to buy into. It's probably overdiagnosed, but if it doesn't exist at all how do explain the difference in glucose use in the portion of the brain controlling attention in people who have been diagnosed as ADHD? -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - The number of American manufacturing jobs has been shrinking for 42 straight months. |
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In article ,
C. L. wrote: There's no such thing as ADHD in humans either. It's all a myth that the drug companies got everyone to buy into. It's probably overdiagnosed, but if it doesn't exist at all how do explain the difference in glucose use in the portion of the brain controlling attention in people who have been diagnosed as ADHD? -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - The number of American manufacturing jobs has been shrinking for 42 straight months. |
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In article ,
C. L. wrote: There's no such thing as ADHD in humans either. It's all a myth that the drug companies got everyone to buy into. It's probably overdiagnosed, but if it doesn't exist at all how do explain the difference in glucose use in the portion of the brain controlling attention in people who have been diagnosed as ADHD? -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - The number of American manufacturing jobs has been shrinking for 42 straight months. |
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