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Old February 7th 04, 06:59 AM
Tee
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"culprit" wrote in message
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a lot of people don't even believe it exists in children, let alone dogs.
:-)


I used to be one of those people...well I figured it existed but not on the
scale it does.

but yeah, i think there are probably ADD dogs out there. i hardly think

it
would be appropriate to try to treat it chemically though. you'd just

have
to try to learn how to live with them, i guess.


That's the problem though. For alot of these dogs few owners can live with
it..without relegating the dog to 24/7 outside living. I believe Prozac is
probably the medicine of choice for this problem in dogs although I'm not
entirely sure of that. IMO, if there's a medication to help, when the
problem is an internal one where training is made difficult to impossible,
then its kind of like punishing the dog for things it can't help, same with
kids. If there's a legitimate problem inside the brain, one that negatively
impacts their ability to function properly and be happy (not always being
yelled at or sent away), then it makes sense to treat it.

i think Lola has Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Separation Anxiety,

Obsessive
Compulsive Disorder and Panic Disorder. my cat Mo is surely

Schizophrenic
(he has long involved conversations with things only he can see). i think
Manu is the only normal one in the house.


My pets only have man-syndrome. IOW they hear what they want, when they
want, and all else is just noise.

--
Tara


  #12  
Old February 7th 04, 06:59 AM
Tee
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"culprit" wrote in message
...

a lot of people don't even believe it exists in children, let alone dogs.
:-)


I used to be one of those people...well I figured it existed but not on the
scale it does.

but yeah, i think there are probably ADD dogs out there. i hardly think

it
would be appropriate to try to treat it chemically though. you'd just

have
to try to learn how to live with them, i guess.


That's the problem though. For alot of these dogs few owners can live with
it..without relegating the dog to 24/7 outside living. I believe Prozac is
probably the medicine of choice for this problem in dogs although I'm not
entirely sure of that. IMO, if there's a medication to help, when the
problem is an internal one where training is made difficult to impossible,
then its kind of like punishing the dog for things it can't help, same with
kids. If there's a legitimate problem inside the brain, one that negatively
impacts their ability to function properly and be happy (not always being
yelled at or sent away), then it makes sense to treat it.

i think Lola has Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Separation Anxiety,

Obsessive
Compulsive Disorder and Panic Disorder. my cat Mo is surely

Schizophrenic
(he has long involved conversations with things only he can see). i think
Manu is the only normal one in the house.


My pets only have man-syndrome. IOW they hear what they want, when they
want, and all else is just noise.

--
Tara


  #13  
Old February 7th 04, 06:59 AM
Tee
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"culprit" wrote in message
...

a lot of people don't even believe it exists in children, let alone dogs.
:-)


I used to be one of those people...well I figured it existed but not on the
scale it does.

but yeah, i think there are probably ADD dogs out there. i hardly think

it
would be appropriate to try to treat it chemically though. you'd just

have
to try to learn how to live with them, i guess.


That's the problem though. For alot of these dogs few owners can live with
it..without relegating the dog to 24/7 outside living. I believe Prozac is
probably the medicine of choice for this problem in dogs although I'm not
entirely sure of that. IMO, if there's a medication to help, when the
problem is an internal one where training is made difficult to impossible,
then its kind of like punishing the dog for things it can't help, same with
kids. If there's a legitimate problem inside the brain, one that negatively
impacts their ability to function properly and be happy (not always being
yelled at or sent away), then it makes sense to treat it.

i think Lola has Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Separation Anxiety,

Obsessive
Compulsive Disorder and Panic Disorder. my cat Mo is surely

Schizophrenic
(he has long involved conversations with things only he can see). i think
Manu is the only normal one in the house.


My pets only have man-syndrome. IOW they hear what they want, when they
want, and all else is just noise.

--
Tara


  #14  
Old February 7th 04, 09:04 AM
Jo Wolf
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There's also hyper-reactivity.... which is not the same as
hyperactivity.

Hyperactivity was the Wirehair Pointing Griffon a student owned.... The
dog fit Tara's description beautifully. Indeed, the owners were ready
to pull their hair out. The vet put him on Prozac and it slightly
reduced the activity level, but made no change in evidence of learning.
They tried a stimulant, not Ritalin... one of the others... and there
was enough improvement to save his home.... but he was still much busier
than normal for this active breed. A couple of years later, he
developed multi-system failure and died quickly... not drug related..

Hyper-reactivity is the dog that can stand still, rest on a lap, and
learn, often quite quickly, but that over-reacts to the whole world!
That's my Schroeder. He was pretty unbearable at times, too, but I
could talk-him-down, relax him with massage, or bring things to a halt
with a sit or down. Fortunately he had a strong desire to please and
loved doing tricks and short obedience command combinations, and some of
that energy could be burned off that way. He was the first dog to
notice the moving squirrel, and go for it (now, he sends the puppy to
chase it for him.... funny to watch). He would startle into a hover
above ground if a door slammed. The mere sound of the Dremel sent him
into a swivet. And as he approached middle age, he developed fear of
thunder and fireworks. At 11, he's still Very active... and very
reactive. In five years of trying, he got one Novice obedience leg...
it was exceptionally unstimulating in the building when he was in the
ring that day... and the judge was generous. In real life, he's very
obedient, and in training, he loves Rally, grinning his way around the
ring with a prance. Using voice and hand signals, I can hold his
attention on me, not on the environment. He's a great little therapy
dog and a World Class Bed Dog every night.

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia

  #15  
Old February 7th 04, 09:04 AM
Jo Wolf
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There's also hyper-reactivity.... which is not the same as
hyperactivity.

Hyperactivity was the Wirehair Pointing Griffon a student owned.... The
dog fit Tara's description beautifully. Indeed, the owners were ready
to pull their hair out. The vet put him on Prozac and it slightly
reduced the activity level, but made no change in evidence of learning.
They tried a stimulant, not Ritalin... one of the others... and there
was enough improvement to save his home.... but he was still much busier
than normal for this active breed. A couple of years later, he
developed multi-system failure and died quickly... not drug related..

Hyper-reactivity is the dog that can stand still, rest on a lap, and
learn, often quite quickly, but that over-reacts to the whole world!
That's my Schroeder. He was pretty unbearable at times, too, but I
could talk-him-down, relax him with massage, or bring things to a halt
with a sit or down. Fortunately he had a strong desire to please and
loved doing tricks and short obedience command combinations, and some of
that energy could be burned off that way. He was the first dog to
notice the moving squirrel, and go for it (now, he sends the puppy to
chase it for him.... funny to watch). He would startle into a hover
above ground if a door slammed. The mere sound of the Dremel sent him
into a swivet. And as he approached middle age, he developed fear of
thunder and fireworks. At 11, he's still Very active... and very
reactive. In five years of trying, he got one Novice obedience leg...
it was exceptionally unstimulating in the building when he was in the
ring that day... and the judge was generous. In real life, he's very
obedient, and in training, he loves Rally, grinning his way around the
ring with a prance. Using voice and hand signals, I can hold his
attention on me, not on the environment. He's a great little therapy
dog and a World Class Bed Dog every night.

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia

  #16  
Old February 7th 04, 09:04 AM
Jo Wolf
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There's also hyper-reactivity.... which is not the same as
hyperactivity.

Hyperactivity was the Wirehair Pointing Griffon a student owned.... The
dog fit Tara's description beautifully. Indeed, the owners were ready
to pull their hair out. The vet put him on Prozac and it slightly
reduced the activity level, but made no change in evidence of learning.
They tried a stimulant, not Ritalin... one of the others... and there
was enough improvement to save his home.... but he was still much busier
than normal for this active breed. A couple of years later, he
developed multi-system failure and died quickly... not drug related..

Hyper-reactivity is the dog that can stand still, rest on a lap, and
learn, often quite quickly, but that over-reacts to the whole world!
That's my Schroeder. He was pretty unbearable at times, too, but I
could talk-him-down, relax him with massage, or bring things to a halt
with a sit or down. Fortunately he had a strong desire to please and
loved doing tricks and short obedience command combinations, and some of
that energy could be burned off that way. He was the first dog to
notice the moving squirrel, and go for it (now, he sends the puppy to
chase it for him.... funny to watch). He would startle into a hover
above ground if a door slammed. The mere sound of the Dremel sent him
into a swivet. And as he approached middle age, he developed fear of
thunder and fireworks. At 11, he's still Very active... and very
reactive. In five years of trying, he got one Novice obedience leg...
it was exceptionally unstimulating in the building when he was in the
ring that day... and the judge was generous. In real life, he's very
obedient, and in training, he loves Rally, grinning his way around the
ring with a prance. Using voice and hand signals, I can hold his
attention on me, not on the environment. He's a great little therapy
dog and a World Class Bed Dog every night.

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia

  #17  
Old February 7th 04, 09:04 AM
Jo Wolf
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There's also hyper-reactivity.... which is not the same as
hyperactivity.

Hyperactivity was the Wirehair Pointing Griffon a student owned.... The
dog fit Tara's description beautifully. Indeed, the owners were ready
to pull their hair out. The vet put him on Prozac and it slightly
reduced the activity level, but made no change in evidence of learning.
They tried a stimulant, not Ritalin... one of the others... and there
was enough improvement to save his home.... but he was still much busier
than normal for this active breed. A couple of years later, he
developed multi-system failure and died quickly... not drug related..

Hyper-reactivity is the dog that can stand still, rest on a lap, and
learn, often quite quickly, but that over-reacts to the whole world!
That's my Schroeder. He was pretty unbearable at times, too, but I
could talk-him-down, relax him with massage, or bring things to a halt
with a sit or down. Fortunately he had a strong desire to please and
loved doing tricks and short obedience command combinations, and some of
that energy could be burned off that way. He was the first dog to
notice the moving squirrel, and go for it (now, he sends the puppy to
chase it for him.... funny to watch). He would startle into a hover
above ground if a door slammed. The mere sound of the Dremel sent him
into a swivet. And as he approached middle age, he developed fear of
thunder and fireworks. At 11, he's still Very active... and very
reactive. In five years of trying, he got one Novice obedience leg...
it was exceptionally unstimulating in the building when he was in the
ring that day... and the judge was generous. In real life, he's very
obedient, and in training, he loves Rally, grinning his way around the
ring with a prance. Using voice and hand signals, I can hold his
attention on me, not on the environment. He's a great little therapy
dog and a World Class Bed Dog every night.

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia

  #18  
Old February 7th 04, 02:29 PM
Melinda Shore
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In article ,
C. L. wrote:
There's no such thing as ADHD in humans either. It's all a myth that the
drug companies got everyone to buy into.


It's probably overdiagnosed, but if it doesn't exist at all
how do explain the difference in glucose use in the portion
of the brain controlling attention in people who have been
diagnosed as ADHD?
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

The number of American manufacturing jobs has been
shrinking for 42 straight months.
  #19  
Old February 7th 04, 02:29 PM
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In article ,
C. L. wrote:
There's no such thing as ADHD in humans either. It's all a myth that the
drug companies got everyone to buy into.


It's probably overdiagnosed, but if it doesn't exist at all
how do explain the difference in glucose use in the portion
of the brain controlling attention in people who have been
diagnosed as ADHD?
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

The number of American manufacturing jobs has been
shrinking for 42 straight months.
  #20  
Old February 7th 04, 02:29 PM
Melinda Shore
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In article ,
C. L. wrote:
There's no such thing as ADHD in humans either. It's all a myth that the
drug companies got everyone to buy into.


It's probably overdiagnosed, but if it doesn't exist at all
how do explain the difference in glucose use in the portion
of the brain controlling attention in people who have been
diagnosed as ADHD?
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

The number of American manufacturing jobs has been
shrinking for 42 straight months.
 




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