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Doberman Pup with Demodectic Mange Question
Hello,
We have a great Doberman male pup, found small bare spots on his coat, after a scrape and a look under the microscope found that he has Demodectic mites. We have scheduled the Vet to begin a regiment of dips. Until then, I am curious of the "home remedies" course of action and thought I'd see if anyone had treatments that have been successful for them in this type of case. I was told benzoyl peroxide might help some but it seems a bit weak for that even at the strength of 10%. Another question, what is the best way to increase a dog's immune system Vitamins?? We have him on Science Diet Puppy Food for Large Breed Dogs and we mix in a bit of Diamond Puppy Food for the best of both foods and we have given him vitamin E and Fish Oil to help his skin, our other Dobe had a skin rash early on and those vitamins helped, plus we use a bit of sunflower or peanut oil on their food. I thought about giving them some human vitamins till I get him some for dogs....but I think they are about the same and might be better in quality. Any remedies? Thanks!! Hal |
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You are doing well with the supplements. I myself am not a Science Diet
person, but we each find what works for our animals. I found that a good pediatric vitamin worked well - plus, they are flavored. You might want to look at a bottle of biotin - gives the oils a jump start. One suggestion - Don't drag out the dip therapy if the breed is not sensitive to ivermec. My current dog was a demodex dog - every hormonal surge brought about another session of dips. She's a bullmastiff, so there were alot of growth surges. It got to the point where she would not go any where near the tub if the dip was being mixed. That wasn't a problem until she got past the 70 pound mark. I switched to the Ivermec shot, it cleared the situation right up. Plus, the dog now gets into the tub by herself! "Hal Jordan" wrote in message ... Hello, We have a great Doberman male pup, found small bare spots on his coat, after a scrape and a look under the microscope found that he has Demodectic mites. We have scheduled the Vet to begin a regiment of dips. Until then, I am curious of the "home remedies" course of action and thought I'd see if anyone had treatments that have been successful for them in this type of case. I was told benzoyl peroxide might help some but it seems a bit weak for that even at the strength of 10%. Another question, what is the best way to increase a dog's immune system Vitamins?? We have him on Science Diet Puppy Food for Large Breed Dogs and we mix in a bit of Diamond Puppy Food for the best of both foods and we have given him vitamin E and Fish Oil to help his skin, our other Dobe had a skin rash early on and those vitamins helped, plus we use a bit of sunflower or peanut oil on their food. I thought about giving them some human vitamins till I get him some for dogs....but I think they are about the same and might be better in quality. Any remedies? Thanks!! Hal |
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Great idea with the ped. vitamins and biotin, I'll be putting those on the list for my next trip to the drug store. I am going to ask the vet about the Ivermec shot, anything better than the dip is good by me. On the dog food, I have always used Science Diet but we used Diamond a few years back on an abused wolf we rescued that had some digetive troubles, I liked that it has no corn and has a lot of Omega vitamins but I am still not sure of the quality in comparison. Thanks for the suggestions! On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:03:42 -0600, "ZPL" wrote: You are doing well with the supplements. I myself am not a Science Diet person, but we each find what works for our animals. I found that a good pediatric vitamin worked well - plus, they are flavored. You might want to look at a bottle of biotin - gives the oils a jump start. One suggestion - Don't drag out the dip therapy if the breed is not sensitive to ivermec. My current dog was a demodex dog - every hormonal surge brought about another session of dips. She's a bullmastiff, so there were alot of growth surges. It got to the point where she would not go any where near the tub if the dip was being mixed. That wasn't a problem until she got past the 70 pound mark. I switched to the Ivermec shot, it cleared the situation right up. Plus, the dog now gets into the tub by herself! "Hal Jordan" wrote in message .. . Hello, We have a great Doberman male pup, found small bare spots on his coat, after a scrape and a look under the microscope found that he has Demodectic mites. We have scheduled the Vet to begin a regiment of dips. Until then, I am curious of the "home remedies" course of action and thought I'd see if anyone had treatments that have been successful for them in this type of case. I was told benzoyl peroxide might help some but it seems a bit weak for that even at the strength of 10%. Another question, what is the best way to increase a dog's immune system Vitamins?? We have him on Science Diet Puppy Food for Large Breed Dogs and we mix in a bit of Diamond Puppy Food for the best of both foods and we have given him vitamin E and Fish Oil to help his skin, our other Dobe had a skin rash early on and those vitamins helped, plus we use a bit of sunflower or peanut oil on their food. I thought about giving them some human vitamins till I get him some for dogs....but I think they are about the same and might be better in quality. Any remedies? Thanks!! Hal |
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Hal Jordan wrote: Hello, We have a great Doberman male pup, found small bare spots on his coat, after a scrape and a look under the microscope found that he has Demodectic mites. We have scheduled the Vet to begin a regiment of dips. Until then, I am curious of the "home remedies" course of action and thought I'd see if anyone had treatments that have been successful for them in this type of case. I was told benzoyl peroxide might help some but it seems a bit weak for that even at the strength of 10%. See if your vet has something called Goodwinol Ointment. And there are some indications that with localized demodex (around head and neck) just being patient may result in it going away on its own. I do NOT like the dips, they are extremely strong. I had a dobe many years ago who had demodex, I dipped her according to instructions, and she lost consciousness for about 6 hours. Quite, quite scary. Another question, what is the best way to increase a dog's immune system Vitamins?? We have him on Science Diet Puppy Food for Large Breed Dogs and we mix in a bit of Diamond Puppy Food for the best of both foods and we have given him vitamin E and Fish Oil to help his skin, our other Dobe had a skin rash early on and those vitamins helped, plus we use a bit of sunflower or peanut oil on their food. The truth is, the tendency to get demodex is almost always something that is inherited. You're correct to target the immune system--a weak immune system is the primary cause of the disease, and dogs who get demodectic mange should not be bred. So being as a weak immune system is genetic, I'm not sure there's a tremendous amount you can do to boost it. In fact, the best thing may be to do nothing. Our instinctual response to things like demodex, staph (bumpy, pimply coat), etc, is to throw meds and antibiotics at them. Unless your puppy has a serious problem that demands antibiotics, try to avoid them at all costs and let him work through the issue. For instance, if the puppy had a bladder infection I'd do antibiotics. but if it had a pimply chin, I would not. Try to give the dog's own immune system a chance to kick in and fight the minor puppy issues that come along. |
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Thanks for the response Robin, I had read about the Goodwinol Ointment I was not sure if it was over-the-counter or not. I don't like the sounds of the dip, the stories I have heard, like yours, makes it all the less my preferance...and the $50 per visit for 6 weeks doesn't sound good either but we'll do what it takes. Thank you, Hal On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 17:00:11 GMT, Robin Nuttall wrote: Hal Jordan wrote: Hello, We have a great Doberman male pup, found small bare spots on his coat, after a scrape and a look under the microscope found that he has Demodectic mites. We have scheduled the Vet to begin a regiment of dips. Until then, I am curious of the "home remedies" course of action and thought I'd see if anyone had treatments that have been successful for them in this type of case. I was told benzoyl peroxide might help some but it seems a bit weak for that even at the strength of 10%. See if your vet has something called Goodwinol Ointment. And there are some indications that with localized demodex (around head and neck) just being patient may result in it going away on its own. I do NOT like the dips, they are extremely strong. I had a dobe many years ago who had demodex, I dipped her according to instructions, and she lost consciousness for about 6 hours. Quite, quite scary. Another question, what is the best way to increase a dog's immune system Vitamins?? We have him on Science Diet Puppy Food for Large Breed Dogs and we mix in a bit of Diamond Puppy Food for the best of both foods and we have given him vitamin E and Fish Oil to help his skin, our other Dobe had a skin rash early on and those vitamins helped, plus we use a bit of sunflower or peanut oil on their food. The truth is, the tendency to get demodex is almost always something that is inherited. You're correct to target the immune system--a weak immune system is the primary cause of the disease, and dogs who get demodectic mange should not be bred. So being as a weak immune system is genetic, I'm not sure there's a tremendous amount you can do to boost it. In fact, the best thing may be to do nothing. Our instinctual response to things like demodex, staph (bumpy, pimply coat), etc, is to throw meds and antibiotics at them. Unless your puppy has a serious problem that demands antibiotics, try to avoid them at all costs and let him work through the issue. For instance, if the puppy had a bladder infection I'd do antibiotics. but if it had a pimply chin, I would not. Try to give the dog's own immune system a chance to kick in and fight the minor puppy issues that come along. |
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