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OT- Dunning-Kruger Effect, was Cesar Millan and dog body language
"Julia Altshuler" wrote in message
. .. Terri wrote: "Cj" wrote in : You won't find any agreement on this list, the 'ladies' know everything already and are incapable of learning anything more. They are perfect examples of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Aw. Too bad too. You started out sounding as if you were a logical, if not misguided adult, just prone to blanket statements ... Buh bye. I looked up Dunning-Kruger Effect. (I swear, as annoying as this group is with all the sniping, I don't get led down such interesting paths on quilting.) From widipedia: 1. Incompetent individuals tend to overestimate their own level of skill. 2. Incompetent individuals fail to recognize genuine skill in others. 3. Incompetent individuals fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy. 4. If they can be trained to substantially improve their own skill level, these individuals can recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill. Classic. Incompetent individuals who learn about the Dunning-Kruger Effect will come to conclusion that anyone who thinks highly of their own level of skill is automatically incompetent. --Lia Actually there are a lot of interesting paths about dogs and animal behavior that could be followed from this list if people weren't so interested in sniping and backstabbing. The Dunning-Kruger effect was derived from and named after studies of the general knowledge of a wide variety of people who were interviewed about their beliefs concerning the extent their own knowledge. Those who scored the worst on the tests were the ones who greatly overestimated their knowledge and understanding. By contrast those who did very well on the test rated themselves about average. Standard psychological testing ... Cj |
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Cesar Millan and dog body language
"Rocky" wrote in message
... "Cj" said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior: An idea is never responsible for those who hold it and you guys miss a lot of ideas because you're too busy dumping on people. An idea is often not seen when a poseur crossposts to five freakin' newsgroups. I responded to someone else's comment and didn't notice that they were posting to other NGs. Have to be more careful in future. C |
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Cesar Millan
In article OYX9j.256849$Fc.71814@attbi_s21,
Robin Nuttall wrote: Melinda Shore wrote: In article , Kevin Michael Vail wrote: I remember that episode (Michael watches cooking shows a lot)! RR kept saying "I'm the only one here who isn't a chef", but the judges liked a couple of her things better than anyone else's. Isn't she the one who makes a lot of stuff out of prepared food? No, that's the show "Semi-Homemade," which is actually pretty decent except I can't stand the hostess. She does these gawdawful table preparations or "stylings" or somesuch. Blech. I probably should *not* post this, at least not under my own name :-), but I recall seeing a special last year with a lot of Food Network stars, and Sandra Lee was wearing a dress which made it appear that her breasts were only semi-homemade as well. -- Kevin Michael Vail | I would rather have a mind opened by wonder | than one closed by belief. -- Gerry Spence |
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Cesar Millan and Robin's Comments
diddy wrote:
Whether someone has sex fetishes, or other interests, it's no reason to rag them on it. And why the ragging continues is the question that keeps bringing me back to this group. I can't figure it out, and I want to know. I figure it's: 1. The raggers think that if they keep telling the targets that the targets are stupid, ugly, and shallow, the targets will choose to reform and suddenly become smart, pretty, and deep. 2. The raggers think that if they keep ragging on the targets, the targets will go away and leave the raggers in a perfect world. 3. The raggers are think they are offering friendship and can't understand why they are misunderstood. It's like when the boy in kindergarten keeps teasing the girls in the class. He likes them, and they tell the teacher on him. With adults, it's a weird form of flirting. --Lia |
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Cesar Millan and Robin's Comments
In article ,
Julia Altshuler wrote: And why the ragging continues is the question that keeps bringing me back to this group. I can't figure it out, and I want to know. I figure it's: Gosh - that's really *deep*. Did it ever occur to you to ask? -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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Cesar Millan and Robin's Comments
Robin Nuttall wrote news:%XX9j.240737$Xa3.174276
@attbi_s22 in rec.pets.dogs.behavior: Marcel Beaudoin wrote: Robin Nuttall wrote news:e3D9j.253398$Fc.49333@attbi_s21 in rec.pets.dogs.behavior: My big addiction at the moment is urban sci-fi fantasy. The early Laurell K. Hamilton (until her books got to be all about very badly written sex), Lilith Saintcrow, Kim Harrison, C. E. Murphy and several more. Have you read Mercedes Lackey's Serrated Edge series?? How about her Bedlam's Bard series?? Not a Mercedes Lackey fan. The unkind nickname is Mercedes Lacking. I did try one of hers (I think a fantasy) and got about 50 pages in. Ahh, that's too bad. I rather enjoy her work. Granted, they are pretty easy to read, requiring not a whole lot of thought. -- Marcel and Moogli |
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Cesar Millan and Robin's Comments
Marcel Beaudoin wrote:
Robin Nuttall wrote news:%XX9j.240737$Xa3.174276 @attbi_s22 in rec.pets.dogs.behavior: Marcel Beaudoin wrote: Robin Nuttall wrote news:e3D9j.253398$Fc.49333@attbi_s21 in rec.pets.dogs.behavior: My big addiction at the moment is urban sci-fi fantasy. The early Laurell K. Hamilton (until her books got to be all about very badly written sex), Lilith Saintcrow, Kim Harrison, C. E. Murphy and several more. Have you read Mercedes Lackey's Serrated Edge series?? How about her Bedlam's Bard series?? Not a Mercedes Lackey fan. The unkind nickname is Mercedes Lacking. I did try one of hers (I think a fantasy) and got about 50 pages in. Ahh, that's too bad. I rather enjoy her work. Granted, they are pretty easy to read, requiring not a whole lot of thought. Oh I don't mind that. I love good reads. Not at all pretentious about my reading and am far more likely to go low brow than high brow. I'll try her again. Maybe I'll like her better. I do get tired of formulaic, and I tend to really like series books where I get to know a set of characters over time. I'm reading the last of the 5-book Dante Valentine series tonight and am trying to savor each word because this is the end of a great series. |
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Cesar Millan and Robin's Comments
"elegy" wrote: Saintcrow, Kim Harrison, C. E. Murphy and several more. Have you read Charles DeLint? his books are utterly beautiful. Yes. His books are, IMO, well out of the realm of "fiction" and firmly in "good literature". I'm using quotes there because I don't really like those terms, but at the moment can't come up with anything better to describe what I mean. Or to put it another way, he's a superb writer whose field just happens to be "urban fantasy", not a writer of popular fiction. And if I were still running a bookstore, he'd be cross-shelved in both the "Science Fiction" and the "Literature" sections. :-) |
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