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Sitmeanssit wrote: I prefer the dog to drive to heel- So do I. http://www.fredhassen.com/video/bubbadogpark1.wmv shrug the article you published here will not reliably produce such a result. It's more based in the "look at me or else" mode, which is the most common way of teaching attention by most competition obedience trainers. I notice in your video you are indeed using a toy. I'm at this exact stage of heel training with my young dog Cala after 3 practices of less than 5 minutes each--including working her last night at a dog park, complete with strange dogs sniffing her butt and her ignoring same (and she hates strange dogs invading her space). Haven't needed an e-collar either. Not that I'm anti collar, I simply disagree that it's an essential to get top results. It's not. |
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Sitmeanssit wrote: I prefer the dog to drive to heel- So do I. http://www.fredhassen.com/video/bubbadogpark1.wmv shrug the article you published here will not reliably produce such a result. It's more based in the "look at me or else" mode, which is the most common way of teaching attention by most competition obedience trainers. I notice in your video you are indeed using a toy. I'm at this exact stage of heel training with my young dog Cala after 3 practices of less than 5 minutes each--including working her last night at a dog park, complete with strange dogs sniffing her butt and her ignoring same (and she hates strange dogs invading her space). Haven't needed an e-collar either. Not that I'm anti collar, I simply disagree that it's an essential to get top results. It's not. |
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Sitmeanssit wrote: I prefer the dog to drive to heel- So do I. http://www.fredhassen.com/video/bubbadogpark1.wmv shrug the article you published here will not reliably produce such a result. It's more based in the "look at me or else" mode, which is the most common way of teaching attention by most competition obedience trainers. I notice in your video you are indeed using a toy. I'm at this exact stage of heel training with my young dog Cala after 3 practices of less than 5 minutes each--including working her last night at a dog park, complete with strange dogs sniffing her butt and her ignoring same (and she hates strange dogs invading her space). Haven't needed an e-collar either. Not that I'm anti collar, I simply disagree that it's an essential to get top results. It's not. |
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"C.L." wrote in message ... Anyone come up with any clever way to teach a dog to walk on a loose lead? Do you simply want the dog to walk on a loose lead, or do you want the dog to heel? Apologies if I'm repeating something you already know, but teaching a dog to *heel* means teaching the dog to walk very closely at your left side - usually, almost touching you- holding to an exact position relative to you no matter where or how you move, matching your speed precisely, and instantly sitting in that exact position whenever you stop. And the eventual aim is for the dog to do it *without* a leash. That's what all the advice in this thread is aimed at teaching. Some of it's going even further, and is directed to the current competition-ring fad of "attention heel", in which the dog not only holds rigidly to the prescribed position, but turns his head sideways and up, staring at your face instead of looking where he's going. (Personally, I find the "attention heel" both silly-looking and impractical.) Walking on a loose leash simply means keeping a bit of slack in the leash- IOW, not pulling. :-) There's a medium between the two, in which the dog is taught not to walk very far *ahead* of you, keeps moving in the direction you do, and doesn't pull, but otherwise moves freely. |
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"C.L." wrote in message ... Anyone come up with any clever way to teach a dog to walk on a loose lead? Do you simply want the dog to walk on a loose lead, or do you want the dog to heel? Apologies if I'm repeating something you already know, but teaching a dog to *heel* means teaching the dog to walk very closely at your left side - usually, almost touching you- holding to an exact position relative to you no matter where or how you move, matching your speed precisely, and instantly sitting in that exact position whenever you stop. And the eventual aim is for the dog to do it *without* a leash. That's what all the advice in this thread is aimed at teaching. Some of it's going even further, and is directed to the current competition-ring fad of "attention heel", in which the dog not only holds rigidly to the prescribed position, but turns his head sideways and up, staring at your face instead of looking where he's going. (Personally, I find the "attention heel" both silly-looking and impractical.) Walking on a loose leash simply means keeping a bit of slack in the leash- IOW, not pulling. :-) There's a medium between the two, in which the dog is taught not to walk very far *ahead* of you, keeps moving in the direction you do, and doesn't pull, but otherwise moves freely. |
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"C.L." wrote in message ... Anyone come up with any clever way to teach a dog to walk on a loose lead? Do you simply want the dog to walk on a loose lead, or do you want the dog to heel? Apologies if I'm repeating something you already know, but teaching a dog to *heel* means teaching the dog to walk very closely at your left side - usually, almost touching you- holding to an exact position relative to you no matter where or how you move, matching your speed precisely, and instantly sitting in that exact position whenever you stop. And the eventual aim is for the dog to do it *without* a leash. That's what all the advice in this thread is aimed at teaching. Some of it's going even further, and is directed to the current competition-ring fad of "attention heel", in which the dog not only holds rigidly to the prescribed position, but turns his head sideways and up, staring at your face instead of looking where he's going. (Personally, I find the "attention heel" both silly-looking and impractical.) Walking on a loose leash simply means keeping a bit of slack in the leash- IOW, not pulling. :-) There's a medium between the two, in which the dog is taught not to walk very far *ahead* of you, keeps moving in the direction you do, and doesn't pull, but otherwise moves freely. |
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Sionnach wrote: (Personally, I find the "attention heel" both silly-looking and impractical.) Well there's not much "practical" about heeling at all. Who needs their dog to be in one exact spot on their left side at all times? The attention heel is something for obedience and schutzhund competitions. It *does* have a practical use in schutzhund--it proves the dog can keep focused on the handler in the face of some pretty spectacular (to the dog) distractions. But all attention heeling is directed toward sport work of some sort--not every day life. For every day life, walking on a loose leash on any side as long the dog isn't tripping the owner is all that's required. |
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Sionnach wrote: (Personally, I find the "attention heel" both silly-looking and impractical.) Well there's not much "practical" about heeling at all. Who needs their dog to be in one exact spot on their left side at all times? The attention heel is something for obedience and schutzhund competitions. It *does* have a practical use in schutzhund--it proves the dog can keep focused on the handler in the face of some pretty spectacular (to the dog) distractions. But all attention heeling is directed toward sport work of some sort--not every day life. For every day life, walking on a loose leash on any side as long the dog isn't tripping the owner is all that's required. |
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