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Subject: Home Visit Checklist?
From: "Child" Date: Tue, Sep 23, 2003 11:18 PM Message-id: "Kind2dogs" wrote in message ... Subject: Home Visit Checklist? From: "Child" Date: Tue, Sep 23, 2003 9:27 PM Message-id: Doing my first home visit for rescue. Does anyone have a checklist for me to use? Check outside for upkeep of property. Trash? Broken Windows? Fence? How Secure? Area for dog? Secure How large? Other dogs in area? Problem dogs? Inside Where the dog will live? How secure for the dog to not escape? Who else (dog people other animals)is in the home that you did not evaluate? Is this a rental? Did you do a landlord check? Myself while I could care less if the house is an ocean side mansion or a studio apartment,if the furniture is tattered or museum quality,I am looking to see it the dog is going to have a secure loving home. Good Luck Paulette~ Thanks Paulette! Tara sent me a good list to take with me, I will probably be nervous. The rescue org asked me to bring my dog. Does that sound weird? Hmmmmm while I would have wanted to bring the dog that is being adopted, I think you bringing your own dog will be ok as well. This way you will be more relaxed as you know your dog and you can see how the people interact with your dog. You can see how your dog interacts with them too. While I would have wanted to see the people with the dog they wanted to adopt at the home for a visit,as YOUR is NOT the dog being adopted, many rescues work differently. If your rescue hasn't already talked to the person and has evaluated the whole situation before you do the home visit, then chit chat with the family about what animals they have had what happened to them, and what they have now. Also because I do not want my dogs to be tied to the back yard and or living outside, I ask questions that circumvent what I really want to know. Another thing is ask the family " Now I see you have a garage,basement, barn ,dog house, would the dog being living there? This way it is far better than to say will the dog live outside? As usually the person will say no. As they get the feeling you would not like that. One more thing, KNOW the dog that you are going to place so you can see how finicky the people are. If they are adopting a slobbering fool, and they are neatnicks with a home that has white carpeting and tapestry chairs, or are always wiping their clothes,whenyour dog is touching them,they just might not be a good match with such a dog. Or I have found that MANY dogs dislike smokers. Check that out too. I am sure you will do fine. Where are you anyway? All Good Thoughts "The only thing about resisting temptation is you might not get another chance" |
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Subject: Home Visit Checklist?
From: "Child" Date: Tue, Sep 23, 2003 11:18 PM Message-id: "Kind2dogs" wrote in message ... Subject: Home Visit Checklist? From: "Child" Date: Tue, Sep 23, 2003 9:27 PM Message-id: Doing my first home visit for rescue. Does anyone have a checklist for me to use? Check outside for upkeep of property. Trash? Broken Windows? Fence? How Secure? Area for dog? Secure How large? Other dogs in area? Problem dogs? Inside Where the dog will live? How secure for the dog to not escape? Who else (dog people other animals)is in the home that you did not evaluate? Is this a rental? Did you do a landlord check? Myself while I could care less if the house is an ocean side mansion or a studio apartment,if the furniture is tattered or museum quality,I am looking to see it the dog is going to have a secure loving home. Good Luck Paulette~ Thanks Paulette! Tara sent me a good list to take with me, I will probably be nervous. The rescue org asked me to bring my dog. Does that sound weird? Hmmmmm while I would have wanted to bring the dog that is being adopted, I think you bringing your own dog will be ok as well. This way you will be more relaxed as you know your dog and you can see how the people interact with your dog. You can see how your dog interacts with them too. While I would have wanted to see the people with the dog they wanted to adopt at the home for a visit,as YOUR is NOT the dog being adopted, many rescues work differently. If your rescue hasn't already talked to the person and has evaluated the whole situation before you do the home visit, then chit chat with the family about what animals they have had what happened to them, and what they have now. Also because I do not want my dogs to be tied to the back yard and or living outside, I ask questions that circumvent what I really want to know. Another thing is ask the family " Now I see you have a garage,basement, barn ,dog house, would the dog being living there? This way it is far better than to say will the dog live outside? As usually the person will say no. As they get the feeling you would not like that. One more thing, KNOW the dog that you are going to place so you can see how finicky the people are. If they are adopting a slobbering fool, and they are neatnicks with a home that has white carpeting and tapestry chairs, or are always wiping their clothes,whenyour dog is touching them,they just might not be a good match with such a dog. Or I have found that MANY dogs dislike smokers. Check that out too. I am sure you will do fine. Where are you anyway? All Good Thoughts "The only thing about resisting temptation is you might not get another chance" |
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Kind2dogs" wrote in message
... While I would have wanted to see the people with the dog they wanted to adopt at the home for a visit,as YOUR is NOT the dog being adopted, many rescues work differently. True but Beth may not know this dog very well, not well enough to answer questions on anything it may do during the homevisit, or be able to read its body language well..in relation to another dog. I read, after my previous posts, that the adopters have no other pets so right now the only issue is seeing how the adopters interact with a strange dog. One more thing, KNOW the dog that you are going to place so you can see how finicky the people are. If they are adopting a slobbering fool, and they are neatnicks with a home that has white carpeting and tapestry chairs, or are always wiping their clothes,whenyour dog is touching them,they just might not be a good match with such a dog. I disagree with part of this. IMO, its not the homevisitor's job to know the dog being placed. The adoption coordinator and/or the foster home of the dog can ask more specific questions after reading the hv form. The homevisitor should take note of things like an immaculate home with antiques, breakables, white carpeting, etc...things that aren't what you'd normally envision in a pet-friendly environment. I have a personal issue with a homevisitor discussing the rescue's dogs or a dog in particular to the applicants. The way I do things is that the applicant isn't yet approved during the homevisit so talking about a particular dog may get their hopes up if they are turned down afterwards. Its also very possible that they are approved but the dog they want, and think is the best match, really isn't and wouldn't be available to them. Then that starts a touchy conversation of "well this is what the hv person told us and now you're saying the dog isn't a match?" My primary issue though has to do with not being able to control what is said about a dog. It would be far too easy for an adopter to come back later and say "well he/she said this dog was A and its not so you misrepresented the dog." Also, the homevisitors rarely know enough about a particular dog to speak accurately about it anyway. Then when you do start talking dogs with applicants, they will begin firing off questions about habits, behavior and so forth that only the adoption coordinator and foster home would be able to answer. IMO its better all the way around to avoid talking about a particular dog during a homevisit *unless* you are that dog's foster parent *and* you know the adoption coordinator well enough to know that your evaluation of the adoptive home will gain the applicant approval to adopt, and adopt your dog. I think Beth should find out how the adoption coordinator of her rescue would prefer "dog talk" to be handled. Some rescues are all for talking dogs at the homevisit but I'm strictly against it. -- Tara |
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Kind2dogs" wrote in message
... While I would have wanted to see the people with the dog they wanted to adopt at the home for a visit,as YOUR is NOT the dog being adopted, many rescues work differently. True but Beth may not know this dog very well, not well enough to answer questions on anything it may do during the homevisit, or be able to read its body language well..in relation to another dog. I read, after my previous posts, that the adopters have no other pets so right now the only issue is seeing how the adopters interact with a strange dog. One more thing, KNOW the dog that you are going to place so you can see how finicky the people are. If they are adopting a slobbering fool, and they are neatnicks with a home that has white carpeting and tapestry chairs, or are always wiping their clothes,whenyour dog is touching them,they just might not be a good match with such a dog. I disagree with part of this. IMO, its not the homevisitor's job to know the dog being placed. The adoption coordinator and/or the foster home of the dog can ask more specific questions after reading the hv form. The homevisitor should take note of things like an immaculate home with antiques, breakables, white carpeting, etc...things that aren't what you'd normally envision in a pet-friendly environment. I have a personal issue with a homevisitor discussing the rescue's dogs or a dog in particular to the applicants. The way I do things is that the applicant isn't yet approved during the homevisit so talking about a particular dog may get their hopes up if they are turned down afterwards. Its also very possible that they are approved but the dog they want, and think is the best match, really isn't and wouldn't be available to them. Then that starts a touchy conversation of "well this is what the hv person told us and now you're saying the dog isn't a match?" My primary issue though has to do with not being able to control what is said about a dog. It would be far too easy for an adopter to come back later and say "well he/she said this dog was A and its not so you misrepresented the dog." Also, the homevisitors rarely know enough about a particular dog to speak accurately about it anyway. Then when you do start talking dogs with applicants, they will begin firing off questions about habits, behavior and so forth that only the adoption coordinator and foster home would be able to answer. IMO its better all the way around to avoid talking about a particular dog during a homevisit *unless* you are that dog's foster parent *and* you know the adoption coordinator well enough to know that your evaluation of the adoptive home will gain the applicant approval to adopt, and adopt your dog. I think Beth should find out how the adoption coordinator of her rescue would prefer "dog talk" to be handled. Some rescues are all for talking dogs at the homevisit but I'm strictly against it. -- Tara |
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Kind2dogs" wrote in message
... While I would have wanted to see the people with the dog they wanted to adopt at the home for a visit,as YOUR is NOT the dog being adopted, many rescues work differently. True but Beth may not know this dog very well, not well enough to answer questions on anything it may do during the homevisit, or be able to read its body language well..in relation to another dog. I read, after my previous posts, that the adopters have no other pets so right now the only issue is seeing how the adopters interact with a strange dog. One more thing, KNOW the dog that you are going to place so you can see how finicky the people are. If they are adopting a slobbering fool, and they are neatnicks with a home that has white carpeting and tapestry chairs, or are always wiping their clothes,whenyour dog is touching them,they just might not be a good match with such a dog. I disagree with part of this. IMO, its not the homevisitor's job to know the dog being placed. The adoption coordinator and/or the foster home of the dog can ask more specific questions after reading the hv form. The homevisitor should take note of things like an immaculate home with antiques, breakables, white carpeting, etc...things that aren't what you'd normally envision in a pet-friendly environment. I have a personal issue with a homevisitor discussing the rescue's dogs or a dog in particular to the applicants. The way I do things is that the applicant isn't yet approved during the homevisit so talking about a particular dog may get their hopes up if they are turned down afterwards. Its also very possible that they are approved but the dog they want, and think is the best match, really isn't and wouldn't be available to them. Then that starts a touchy conversation of "well this is what the hv person told us and now you're saying the dog isn't a match?" My primary issue though has to do with not being able to control what is said about a dog. It would be far too easy for an adopter to come back later and say "well he/she said this dog was A and its not so you misrepresented the dog." Also, the homevisitors rarely know enough about a particular dog to speak accurately about it anyway. Then when you do start talking dogs with applicants, they will begin firing off questions about habits, behavior and so forth that only the adoption coordinator and foster home would be able to answer. IMO its better all the way around to avoid talking about a particular dog during a homevisit *unless* you are that dog's foster parent *and* you know the adoption coordinator well enough to know that your evaluation of the adoptive home will gain the applicant approval to adopt, and adopt your dog. I think Beth should find out how the adoption coordinator of her rescue would prefer "dog talk" to be handled. Some rescues are all for talking dogs at the homevisit but I'm strictly against it. -- Tara |
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Subject: Home Visit Checklist?
From: "Tara O." Date: Wed, Sep 24, 2003 12:51 AM Message-id: Kind2dogs" wrote in message ... While I would have wanted to see the people with the dog they wanted to adopt at the home for a visit,as YOUR is NOT the dog being adopted, many rescues work differently. True but Beth may not know this dog very well, not well enough to answer questions on anything it may do during the homevisit, or be able to read its body language well..in relation to another dog. I read, after my previous posts, that the adopters have no other pets so right now the only issue is seeing how the adopters interact with a strange dog. I think they should be checked to see how they are interacting with the dog they want to adopt, BUT like I said different rescues work differently. One more thing, KNOW the dog that you are going to place so you can see how finicky the people are. If they are adopting a slobbering fool, and they are neatnicks with a home that has white carpeting and tapestry chairs, or are always wiping their clothes,whenyour dog is touching them,they just might not be a good match with such a dog. I disagree with part of this. IMO, its not the homevisitor's job to know the dog being placed. Here the person that is doing the home visit, also knows the dog. Again, we all do things differently. The adoption coordinator and/or the foster home of the dog can ask more specific questions after reading the hv form. You see I would have already done the interview and background check (vets,landlord,town licenses)with these people ,they would have already interacted with the dog, I would have made most of my decision on that,and then also the home visit. and knew The homevisitor should take note of things like an immaculate home with antiques, breakables, white carpeting, etc...things that aren't what you'd normally envision in a pet-friendly environment. I have a personal issue with a homevisitor discussing the rescue's dogs or a dog in particular to the applicants. Well here we would discuss it. As the volunteers have been taught and most have been doing it now for over 15 years. The way I do things is that the applicant isn't yet approved during the homevisit so talking about a particular dog may get their hopes up if they are turned down afterwards. The people always know that there is only one person that has the final say, and also that there might be several applications for the one dog. Its also very possible that they are approved but the dog they want, and think is the best match, really isn't and wouldn't be available to them. Then that starts a touchy conversation of "well this is what the hv person told us and now you're saying the dog isn't a match?" Again this is why I think the fewer people involved in the adoption is the way to go. I want the same vet and doctor and plumber and dentist, as getting a new person each times loses much in the transaction. I feel the same way about the adoption process. My primary issue though has to do with not being able to control what is said about a dog. It would be far too easy for an adopter to come back later and say "well he/she said this dog was A and its not so you misrepresented the dog." Also, the homevisitors rarely know enough about a particular dog to speak accurately about it anyway. Well again all rescues work differently. Then when you do start talking dogs with applicants, they will begin firing off questions about habits, behavior and so forth that only the adoption coordinator and foster home would be able to answer. Well, I like that ANYONE that is involved in the adoption knows A LOT about it from start to finish. IMO its better all the way around to avoid talking about a particular dog during a homevisit *unless* you are that dog's foster parent *and* you know the adoption coordinator well enough to know that your evaluation of the adoptive home will gain the applicant approval to adopt, and adopt your dog. I agree there. I think Beth should find out how the adoption coordinator of her rescue would prefer "dog talk" to be handled. Some rescues are all for talking dogs at the homevisit but I'm strictly against it. And I am not fond of too many people involved in one adoption. ALso just like in evaluating the dog, or home or people, the evaluation is only as good as the evaluator. Tara "The only thing about resisting temptation is you might not get another chance" |
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Subject: Home Visit Checklist?
From: "Tara O." Date: Wed, Sep 24, 2003 12:51 AM Message-id: Kind2dogs" wrote in message ... While I would have wanted to see the people with the dog they wanted to adopt at the home for a visit,as YOUR is NOT the dog being adopted, many rescues work differently. True but Beth may not know this dog very well, not well enough to answer questions on anything it may do during the homevisit, or be able to read its body language well..in relation to another dog. I read, after my previous posts, that the adopters have no other pets so right now the only issue is seeing how the adopters interact with a strange dog. I think they should be checked to see how they are interacting with the dog they want to adopt, BUT like I said different rescues work differently. One more thing, KNOW the dog that you are going to place so you can see how finicky the people are. If they are adopting a slobbering fool, and they are neatnicks with a home that has white carpeting and tapestry chairs, or are always wiping their clothes,whenyour dog is touching them,they just might not be a good match with such a dog. I disagree with part of this. IMO, its not the homevisitor's job to know the dog being placed. Here the person that is doing the home visit, also knows the dog. Again, we all do things differently. The adoption coordinator and/or the foster home of the dog can ask more specific questions after reading the hv form. You see I would have already done the interview and background check (vets,landlord,town licenses)with these people ,they would have already interacted with the dog, I would have made most of my decision on that,and then also the home visit. and knew The homevisitor should take note of things like an immaculate home with antiques, breakables, white carpeting, etc...things that aren't what you'd normally envision in a pet-friendly environment. I have a personal issue with a homevisitor discussing the rescue's dogs or a dog in particular to the applicants. Well here we would discuss it. As the volunteers have been taught and most have been doing it now for over 15 years. The way I do things is that the applicant isn't yet approved during the homevisit so talking about a particular dog may get their hopes up if they are turned down afterwards. The people always know that there is only one person that has the final say, and also that there might be several applications for the one dog. Its also very possible that they are approved but the dog they want, and think is the best match, really isn't and wouldn't be available to them. Then that starts a touchy conversation of "well this is what the hv person told us and now you're saying the dog isn't a match?" Again this is why I think the fewer people involved in the adoption is the way to go. I want the same vet and doctor and plumber and dentist, as getting a new person each times loses much in the transaction. I feel the same way about the adoption process. My primary issue though has to do with not being able to control what is said about a dog. It would be far too easy for an adopter to come back later and say "well he/she said this dog was A and its not so you misrepresented the dog." Also, the homevisitors rarely know enough about a particular dog to speak accurately about it anyway. Well again all rescues work differently. Then when you do start talking dogs with applicants, they will begin firing off questions about habits, behavior and so forth that only the adoption coordinator and foster home would be able to answer. Well, I like that ANYONE that is involved in the adoption knows A LOT about it from start to finish. IMO its better all the way around to avoid talking about a particular dog during a homevisit *unless* you are that dog's foster parent *and* you know the adoption coordinator well enough to know that your evaluation of the adoptive home will gain the applicant approval to adopt, and adopt your dog. I agree there. I think Beth should find out how the adoption coordinator of her rescue would prefer "dog talk" to be handled. Some rescues are all for talking dogs at the homevisit but I'm strictly against it. And I am not fond of too many people involved in one adoption. ALso just like in evaluating the dog, or home or people, the evaluation is only as good as the evaluator. Tara "The only thing about resisting temptation is you might not get another chance" |
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Subject: Home Visit Checklist?
From: "Tara O." Date: Wed, Sep 24, 2003 12:51 AM Message-id: Kind2dogs" wrote in message ... While I would have wanted to see the people with the dog they wanted to adopt at the home for a visit,as YOUR is NOT the dog being adopted, many rescues work differently. True but Beth may not know this dog very well, not well enough to answer questions on anything it may do during the homevisit, or be able to read its body language well..in relation to another dog. I read, after my previous posts, that the adopters have no other pets so right now the only issue is seeing how the adopters interact with a strange dog. I think they should be checked to see how they are interacting with the dog they want to adopt, BUT like I said different rescues work differently. One more thing, KNOW the dog that you are going to place so you can see how finicky the people are. If they are adopting a slobbering fool, and they are neatnicks with a home that has white carpeting and tapestry chairs, or are always wiping their clothes,whenyour dog is touching them,they just might not be a good match with such a dog. I disagree with part of this. IMO, its not the homevisitor's job to know the dog being placed. Here the person that is doing the home visit, also knows the dog. Again, we all do things differently. The adoption coordinator and/or the foster home of the dog can ask more specific questions after reading the hv form. You see I would have already done the interview and background check (vets,landlord,town licenses)with these people ,they would have already interacted with the dog, I would have made most of my decision on that,and then also the home visit. and knew The homevisitor should take note of things like an immaculate home with antiques, breakables, white carpeting, etc...things that aren't what you'd normally envision in a pet-friendly environment. I have a personal issue with a homevisitor discussing the rescue's dogs or a dog in particular to the applicants. Well here we would discuss it. As the volunteers have been taught and most have been doing it now for over 15 years. The way I do things is that the applicant isn't yet approved during the homevisit so talking about a particular dog may get their hopes up if they are turned down afterwards. The people always know that there is only one person that has the final say, and also that there might be several applications for the one dog. Its also very possible that they are approved but the dog they want, and think is the best match, really isn't and wouldn't be available to them. Then that starts a touchy conversation of "well this is what the hv person told us and now you're saying the dog isn't a match?" Again this is why I think the fewer people involved in the adoption is the way to go. I want the same vet and doctor and plumber and dentist, as getting a new person each times loses much in the transaction. I feel the same way about the adoption process. My primary issue though has to do with not being able to control what is said about a dog. It would be far too easy for an adopter to come back later and say "well he/she said this dog was A and its not so you misrepresented the dog." Also, the homevisitors rarely know enough about a particular dog to speak accurately about it anyway. Well again all rescues work differently. Then when you do start talking dogs with applicants, they will begin firing off questions about habits, behavior and so forth that only the adoption coordinator and foster home would be able to answer. Well, I like that ANYONE that is involved in the adoption knows A LOT about it from start to finish. IMO its better all the way around to avoid talking about a particular dog during a homevisit *unless* you are that dog's foster parent *and* you know the adoption coordinator well enough to know that your evaluation of the adoptive home will gain the applicant approval to adopt, and adopt your dog. I agree there. I think Beth should find out how the adoption coordinator of her rescue would prefer "dog talk" to be handled. Some rescues are all for talking dogs at the homevisit but I'm strictly against it. And I am not fond of too many people involved in one adoption. ALso just like in evaluating the dog, or home or people, the evaluation is only as good as the evaluator. Tara "The only thing about resisting temptation is you might not get another chance" |
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"Kind2dogs" wrote in message ... The rescue org asked me to bring my dog. Does that sound weird? Hmmmmm while I would have wanted to bring the dog that is being adopted, I think you bringing your own dog will be ok as well. This way you will be more relaxed as you know your dog and you can see how the people interact with your dog. You can see how your dog interacts with them too. While I would have wanted to see the people with the dog they wanted to adopt at the home for a visit,as YOUR is NOT the dog being adopted, many rescues work differently. The dog in question is in Washington and I am in Alaska. Thats why i am doing the home check in the first place! If your rescue hasn't already talked to the person and has evaluated the whole situation before you do the home visit, then chit chat with the family about what animals they have had what happened to them, and what they have now. Also because I do not want my dogs to be tied to the back yard and or living outside, I ask questions that circumvent what I really want to know. Another thing is ask the family " Now I see you have a garage,basement, barn ,dog house, would the dog being living there? This way it is far better than to say will the dog live outside? As usually the person will say no. As they get the feeling you would not like that. Very smart. I might try this! If they are adopting a slobbering fool, and they are neatnicks with a home that has white carpeting and tapestry chairs, or are always wiping their clothes,whenyour dog is touching them,they just might not be a good match with such a dog. LOL, like my grandmother! Or I have found that MANY dogs dislike smokers. Check that out too. Will do. I am sure you will do fine. Where are you anyway? In Anchorage!! |
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"Kind2dogs" wrote in message ... The rescue org asked me to bring my dog. Does that sound weird? Hmmmmm while I would have wanted to bring the dog that is being adopted, I think you bringing your own dog will be ok as well. This way you will be more relaxed as you know your dog and you can see how the people interact with your dog. You can see how your dog interacts with them too. While I would have wanted to see the people with the dog they wanted to adopt at the home for a visit,as YOUR is NOT the dog being adopted, many rescues work differently. The dog in question is in Washington and I am in Alaska. Thats why i am doing the home check in the first place! If your rescue hasn't already talked to the person and has evaluated the whole situation before you do the home visit, then chit chat with the family about what animals they have had what happened to them, and what they have now. Also because I do not want my dogs to be tied to the back yard and or living outside, I ask questions that circumvent what I really want to know. Another thing is ask the family " Now I see you have a garage,basement, barn ,dog house, would the dog being living there? This way it is far better than to say will the dog live outside? As usually the person will say no. As they get the feeling you would not like that. Very smart. I might try this! If they are adopting a slobbering fool, and they are neatnicks with a home that has white carpeting and tapestry chairs, or are always wiping their clothes,whenyour dog is touching them,they just might not be a good match with such a dog. LOL, like my grandmother! Or I have found that MANY dogs dislike smokers. Check that out too. Will do. I am sure you will do fine. Where are you anyway? In Anchorage!! |
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