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Old September 9th 04, 06:21 PM
Tee
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Not sure what that state's law is but I find it doubtful that he'll end up
doing more than paying a fine. I will agree that he was taking
responsibility for his mess rather than dumping them at a shelter and
pushing another dog to its death faster. My guess is that the mentality
borders along something like "if we allow some people to do this then what's
to stop people from randomly shooting dogs?" I wonder if it was a rural
community where this man lived. In the Carolinas its completely normal for
people in rural areas to kill their puppies, usually before they're even old
enough to find homes for. Their dogs aren't s/n and they generally aren't
confined so there tend to be many "oops" litters each year.

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Tara


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Old September 9th 04, 06:28 PM
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Tee wrote:

Not sure what that state's law is but I find it doubtful that he'll end up
doing more than paying a fine.


I agree, if that.

I will agree that he was taking
responsibility for his mess rather than dumping them at a shelter and
pushing another dog to its death faster.



I agree too. I guess my initial response was more in regards to the age
of the puppies
and that he was holding 2 in his hands while shooting.

My guess is that the mentality
borders along something like "if we allow some people to do this then what's
to stop people from randomly shooting dogs?"



Since dogs are property then I don't think there is much to stop one from
shooting their own dogs.

I wonder if it was a rural
community where this man lived. In the Carolinas its completely normal for
people in rural areas to kill their puppies, usually before they're even old
enough to find homes for. Their dogs aren't s/n and they generally aren't
confined so there tend to be many "oops" litters each year.


Same here. In fact more people will drown or kill very young puppies, ie
at birth
rather then ever spending the money to spay or neuter. Afterall killing
the puppies
is free. For those who don't have any qualms of killing but have more
qualms about
spending their money for spaying I suppose this is an alternative. I
definitely
have seen bitches have litter after litter and never get spayed.
And the pups never make it past a week old if that.

Gwen





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Old September 9th 04, 06:59 PM
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on 2004-09-09 at 12:07 wrote:

Having puppies was probably something he was going to prevent
in the future, so he didn't have to relive that experience
again.


why do you think that? if there was any indication of such in
the article, i missed it.

I'm outraged that humans have so twisted their perceptions so
badly that this man is charged with abuse. It took a lot of
courage and was a kind caring and humane act.


it's unsurprising that we have vastly differing views on what
constitutes kind, caring, and courageous. kind and caring
would've been having his dog spayed. courageous would've been
asking for help when he realized he was in over his head.

and, while i think the situation could have been much worse, i
don't see that as a reasonable defense for his actions.

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Old September 10th 04, 05:48 AM
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"diddy" wrote in message
...

When you inject a dog, it causes the heart to stop, and they die of a

heart
attack.
Heart attacks are NOT instant, and they do have momentary pain.



That's not how it works.

Euthanasia solution is typically sodium pentobarbital, an old school
anesthesic drug. A simple explaination, an overdose of the drug is given,
and it shuts down the neurotransmitters in the brain. The animal's brain is
no longer comprehending anything by the time the heart stops.

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Old September 11th 04, 02:08 AM
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When the ancient war dogs did battle on Fri, 10 Sep 2004 06:23:45
-0500, diddy did speak the following bit of
wisdom:

It's obviously an unpleasant experience.


If it is the least bit unpleasant, then you might want to seek out a
new vet. In all but the most grave emergency situations, the practice
I go to actually puts animals to SLEEP before issuing the final
injection. Thus, there is nothing at all unpleasant for either the pet
or the owner. The animal really does "go to sleep" and is totally
unaware of anything at the time the euthanasia solution is actually
administered. BTW: This practice also makes it a point of leaving the
owners and family members alone in a quiet back room with their
sleeping pal to say their goodbyes and grieve in peace -- both before
and after the procedure. It's as positive an experience as it can be,
under the circumstances.

My 3 dogs are quite elderly now and we have already pre-made their
final arrangements, including the fact that we desire individual
cremation with ashes returned. We even have a little bottle of mild
tranquilizers in the drawer weighed out for each of them for the
"final office call" as my vet calls it. (God, I love that man!!) I can
guarantee you... my girls will not be aware of what is happening on
that day. It will be an extremely kind and loving death experience for
all of us. If only it could be this way for people!

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Old September 11th 04, 02:08 AM
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Fla. Stat. s. 828.12. Cruelty to animals

(1) A person who unnecessarily overloads, overdrives, torments, deprives
of necessary sustenance or shelter, or unnecessarily mutilates, or kills any
animal, or causes the same to be done, or carries in or upon any vehicle, or
otherwise, any animal in a cruel or inhumane manner, is guilty of a
misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or by
a fine of not more than $5,000, or both.

(2) A person who intentionally commits an act to any animal which results
in the cruel death, or excessive or repeated infliction of unnecessary pain
or suffering, or causes the same to be done, is guilty of a felony of the
third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or by a fine of not more
than $10,000, or both.

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"Tee" wrote in message
...
Not sure what that state's law is but I find it doubtful that he'll end

up
doing more than paying a fine. I will agree that he was taking
responsibility for his mess rather than dumping them at a shelter and
pushing another dog to its death faster. My guess is that the mentality
borders along something like "if we allow some people to do this then

what's
to stop people from randomly shooting dogs?" I wonder if it was a rural
community where this man lived. In the Carolinas its completely normal

for
people in rural areas to kill their puppies, usually before they're even

old
enough to find homes for. Their dogs aren't s/n and they generally

aren't
confined so there tend to be many "oops" litters each year.

--
Tara




 




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