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Dog throwing up yellow bile
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i am new to this group, but the reason that I am writing is because my rescue dog is frequently throwing up yellow bile. Three months ago I rescued a German Shepherd/Belgian Malinois mix (city stray) and when I first got him he had serious itching/biting - I figured allergies. My regular vet put him on what ended up being 2 rounds of Triacimaolone (a form of steroid) until the weather changed (we live in MD) to see if he was having seasonal allergies. The drugs worked, but as he came off the last round he started throwing up yellow bile all of the time. For the first couple weeks it always happened two times, one right after the other and its always been yellow bile. Now its only happening once at a time. I have had bloodwork run and he is currently on Hills Z/D (allergen-free food). 2 weeks ago I took him to the allergist thinking the throwing up might be allergy related (he has started itching again and has mucous in his eyes) but the allergist referred us to an internist. The internist did a thorough exam and did an ultra sound and found nothing. I've done lots of research on the net and did stumble across something where people feed their dogs at bedtime to keep the dog's gastric juices from causing nauseas. Last night was the first night I have tried and he did not throw up this morning, but that does not necessarily put us in the clear - he doesn't always do it everyday. And although a good majority of the time he throws up in the morning, that's not always when he does it. Like yesterday, he threw up in the afternoon. The internist wants me to get him scoped and I've scheduled it for Thursday. I just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing and that the scope is a worth while procedure or if someone else out there has a dog who's been doing the same - I'm just very afraid they are going to scope him and find nothing. I have seen 2 instances now where a dog has had skin irritation and throwing up and maybe there is a relationship between the two. ANY help would be greatly appreciated!!! Jenn |
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My dog did this for a while and we switched dog foods and she hasn't done it
since. She did it mostly in the morning, but there were a few times she'd do it during other times of the day. Some dogs just have a sensitive stomach, and she may also be reacting somewhat to coming off the steroids. Also, you can give a dog Benadryl for allergies. If you do and this tones down the symptoms she's having, then you will know it is indeed allergies. As for the itching, have you tried adding supplements to her diet? Omega-3 Fatty Acids are wonderul for dry skin. My girl has eczema and it hasn't bothered her for years because of the supplements. I also add instant cooked oatmeal and some canned salmon to her food daily, and it helps tremendously. Since your dog has allergies though I would consult with the vet on adding food. But the supplements won't hurt one bit. You can get it at most pet supply stores at reasonable prices. ~J "furryfriends24" wrote in message ups.com... hi - i am new to this group, but the reason that I am writing is because my rescue dog is frequently throwing up yellow bile. Three months ago I rescued a German Shepherd/Belgian Malinois mix (city stray) and when I first got him he had serious itching/biting - I figured allergies. My regular vet put him on what ended up being 2 rounds of Triacimaolone (a form of steroid) until the weather changed (we live in MD) to see if he was having seasonal allergies. The drugs worked, but as he came off the last round he started throwing up yellow bile all of the time. For the first couple weeks it always happened two times, one right after the other and its always been yellow bile. Now its only happening once at a time. I have had bloodwork run and he is currently on Hills Z/D (allergen-free food). 2 weeks ago I took him to the allergist thinking the throwing up might be allergy related (he has started itching again and has mucous in his eyes) but the allergist referred us to an internist. The internist did a thorough exam and did an ultra sound and found nothing. I've done lots of research on the net and did stumble across something where people feed their dogs at bedtime to keep the dog's gastric juices from causing nauseas. Last night was the first night I have tried and he did not throw up this morning, but that does not necessarily put us in the clear - he doesn't always do it everyday. And although a good majority of the time he throws up in the morning, that's not always when he does it. Like yesterday, he threw up in the afternoon. The internist wants me to get him scoped and I've scheduled it for Thursday. I just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing and that the scope is a worth while procedure or if someone else out there has a dog who's been doing the same - I'm just very afraid they are going to scope him and find nothing. I have seen 2 instances now where a dog has had skin irritation and throwing up and maybe there is a relationship between the two. ANY help would be greatly appreciated!!! Jenn |
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Jessica -
What kind of food is your dog on now? I had started him on Nutro Natural Choice. Then when I realized that the itching was more than just dry skin, I switched him to Solid Gold Hunden-Flocken - a more natural food w/ minimal allergens in it in case he had food allergies. It was while he was on that food that he came off the steroids and started throwing up. So we changed his food yet again to the Hills z/d in case the throwing up was allergy related. He's also been off the steroids for a month now, so I'm not sure at this point it could still be a reaction to that? We tried giving him Benadryl for his allergies (well it was a generic antihistamine Equate, recommended by my vet) and they didn't do a thing for him. The only thing that helped was the steroids. I have been strongly thinking about adding a fatty acids supplement, but wanted to wait until the throwing up ceased before doing anything else to his diet, at this time he only gets his food. Thanks so much for your response, I appreciate it! Jenn |
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furryfriends24 said in rec.pets.dogs.health:
I've done lots of research on the net and did stumble across something where people feed their dogs at bedtime to keep the dog's gastric juices from causing nauseas. Giving the dog a snack at bedtime has "fixed" the yellow bile problem the great majority of times this question has come up. You don't have to feed the entire evening meal right before bedtime, just reserve a portion of it or give your dog a biscuit before bedtime. How often do you feed him? -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
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Well he's 75 lbs, so he'd been getting 3c in the AM and 3c in the PM,
somewhere between 4pm - 5pm. What I started doing yesterday was split it into thirds, 2c AM, 2c PM, and 2c when we go to bed. Jenn |
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Well he's 75 lbs, so he'd been getting 3c in the AM and 3c in the PM,
somewhere between 4pm - 5pm. What I started doing yesterday was split it into thirds, 2c AM, 2c PM, and 2c when we go to bed. Jenn |
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furryfriends24 said in rec.pets.dogs.health:
Well he's 75 lbs, so he'd been getting 3c in the AM and 3c in the PM, somewhere between 4pm - 5pm. What I started doing yesterday was split it into thirds, 2c AM, 2c PM, and 2c when we go to bed. That'll probably work. I asked how often he was fed because there are a lot of people who feed only once per day. -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
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Jenn,
Dunno about the puking, but I HIGHLY recc. you go to a health food store and pick up a bottle (make sure it's refrigerated) of flaxseed oil for the scratching. My girl (shephard/bordie collie mix) went through months of pain (would scratch herself constantly, then those became infected, vet would put her on prednizone and whatever antibiotic/anthistamine of the week)..... no help. Allergy tests all negative. Later on she started developing ear infections about every 3 months, I suspect, but have no way to back it up - from all the various meds the vet had her on. I spent somewhere around 2K looking for a fix, and the doc(s) were always more than hapy to take my money. If I remember their standard line was "she has an allergy, and we simply have to keep trying different meds until we find the right one for her." The only thing that came out of all of it was she got very adept at removing the peanut butter, cheese, etc from the pills themselves before swallowing. 1 teaspoon of flaxseed oil a day cured her virtually from the first dose. Seriously.... I mean after that first teaspoon, she hopped up on the couch, and slept for 8 hours more deeply than I had ever seen before. Eventually I was able to lower it to every other day, and then weekly. The stuff is supposed to be good for humans too..... although I tried a teaspoon of it and almost puked. But she loved it straight from a spoon, but wouldn't eat it if I mixed it with food. I've preached about it here before..... in the past, I always thought the homeopathic stuff was nonsense, and the vet knew best. I don't think that way any longer........... Best of luck! Matt |
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Thanks Matt! I think I will go and do that. I had planned to wait until
the puking was cured to try it, but he's bloodying himself up again. Was your dog itching all year round or just during the winter time? also, what brand of flax seed oil do you use? Thanks again for all of your help, it is GREATLY appreciated!!! Jenn |
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Jenn -
She was a year round scratcher. I don't remember the brand, (she passed some time back from bloat) but as I recall there was only 1 brand to choose from. I guess the only advice I can offer is that if they have many brands, go for the most expensive.... if I recall, the bottle I got was about $25 - $30. Good luck ! Matt |
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