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"A Relative Judgement Of A Circular Assignment Of Thought."



 
 
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Old May 10th 05, 10:05 PM
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HOWEDY People,

Soup To Nuts: "A Relative Judgement
Of A Circular Assignment Of Thought."


That's exactly HOWE Your Puppy Wizard
sees these forums.


Your Puppy Wizard doesn't socialize or
celebrate holidays. Dogs don't take days
off, so dog trainers get to work the days
most folks take off for holidays.


The discussions on these forums revolve
around the types of collars and tools and
crates and shock / intimidation / pain
devices and BREEDS they cannot train
Vs the clickeroo's and the PP'rs and the
alphalpaha / koehler / dominance "methods"
and the risks of NOT hurting dogs to train
them and back to the types of collars and
tools and crates and shock / intimidation /
pain devices and the BREEDS they're best
used on and what BREEDS cannot be trained.


Look at the astonishing % of dogs with
pancreatitis, suspected Cushings (even a
DISEASE gets UPPER CASE and HOWER
dog lovers DON'T) disease, seizuers, OCD'S,
immune system malfunctions, IBD's, self
mutilation, POISONING, organ failure from
anti seizure meds, diabetes and endocrine
failure, thyroid disease, shadow / light / tail
chasing, OCD's, all STRESS INDUCED conditions,
and all EZ to REHABILITATE if you know HOWE.


That nothing is accomplished other than
confusion is THE INTENT of our DOG
LOVERS who are only interested in
defending their alleged right to hurt and
kill dogs as they've become accustomed.


Clicker training was promoted on our
forum by Master Of Deception blankman
and lying frosty dahl as a subterfuge to
CONfound folks interested in the FREE
Wits' End Dog Training Method. See lying
frosty dahl's post "clicker project FIZZLES."


The dog abusing Thugs chose the clicker
bribe method cause it's ALLEGEDLY got
all the elements of being able to do everything
yet IN FACT, fails 10% right off the top and is
incapable of doing anything to control undesirable
behaviors withHOWET extensive repeted time
consuming effort.


The anxiety produced while tempting dogs
with bribes often causes serious behavior
health and temperament problems.


IOW, so called clicker training is little
more than a parlor trick for some of us
and a lifesaver for others, and a joke
for anybody who needs instant total
control (like Your Puppy Wizard) and
is DANGERHOWES for some dogs or
behaviors... like aggression.


Lots of dogs can't wait weeks and months
to be cured of aggression and GET DEAD
before the click / treat / alternate behavor
scam bunk is installed.


See lying frosty dahl's post "Clicker Project FIZZLES."


Well, perhaps we can figure out the
WON method that works for all dogs
and appeals to all dog owners, and
we'll all be very happy?


I suppose SOME of us won't be happy
changing methods or philosophy, but
just as dogs learn, we'll likeWIZE learn
our new methods and our dogs will
love us for that.


Won't they.


Let's take a look around and shake
this doHOWEN so we're all on the
same page and then we'll all be able
to come to the same conclusions, as
this is NOT about YOU and ME, this
IS about DOG TRAINING, is it not?


Your Puppy Wizard sez HOWE we
train our dogs is not a matter of
PERSONAL PREFERENCE. All
dog behavior problems are CAUSED
BY MISHANDLING.


The dog only reflexes in predictable
ways to situations and circumstances
of their environment which WE provide.


Knowing HOWE our dog is going to
respond to his innate, natural, normal,
reflexive, instincts, gives us the opportunity
to habituate the dog to respond exactly
HOWE we prefer.


Dogs do not do BAD behaviors, they
do DOG behaviors. Dogs will naturally
want to do everything we ask if we know
HOWE to ask them because their innate
loyalty, teamwork and cooperation for
pack survival, are naturally instinctive,
just like HOWESbreaking.


Only a dog trainer could confound
Nature's Perfect HOWESbreaking
Program.


Individual dogs do not dictate appropriate
handling and training techniques. The dog
has NO say so about HOWE he is going
to respond, the dog is going to respond
HOWE we make him respond.


All we got to do is know HOWE to make
the dog naturally want to do every thing
we ask, and simply DO IT.


Appropriate handling and training techniques
dictate HOWE the dog is going to respond
according to the SCIENTIFIC METHODS
employed. These scientific methods do not
change to conform to the dog's preferences
and desires.


The individual dog does not manipulate
the SCIENTIFIC METHOD, the METHOD
manipulates the DOG or it would NOT BE
a scientific method and therefore would
not work on all animals.


Would it.


Your Puppy Wizard laughs at the food
bribes and limits of the clicker method
but uses many of its principles in HIS
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual.


Science is science, like it or not.


Ain't it.


Non force non confrontational methods
cure all animal behavior problems nearly
instantly. That's the bottom line for our
professional trainers and aggressive dog
owners.


Ain't it?


The fastest most effective methods are
also the gentlest.


We cannot force an animal not to be
afraid. We cannot bribe an animal to
love us. Forcing control through food
bribery is ineffective unless all the
food in creation is in the trainers treat bag.


Monty Roberts sez you'll never see a
horse run to the next blade of grass.
Your Puppy Wizard sez your weenie
can't compete with a nice garbage can
and your squeaky toy can't compete
with a kid with a ball or a bunny lookin
like a weenie on a pogo stick goin bye.


As for corrections?


HA! Take your lead off and correct the dog.


You'd need a shock collar to do that.


Well, HOWE COME that's not appropriate?
Cause it makes some dogs shy aggressive
hyperactive and gets SOME DOGS DEAD.


Your Puppy Wizard knows our shock collar
trainers are not fond of that FACT, but it's
true, and it's a fact, and that's the bottom line.


Who among our professional trainers has not
found THE DOG that NEEDS to be KILLED
because IT won't RESPECT his trainer's
AUTHORITY?


Now that the shock trainers are shocked,
Your Puppy Wizard will be happy to extend
the facts of the matter to our traditional
trainers who rely on any other force fear
punishment or coercion method of forcing
control.


Forced control is much like a parent of
teens sayin good bye for the weekend,
don't entertain your pals in our HOWES
while we're gone and do your chores.
It'll only work if there's been a proper
foundation of trust and respect and
appropriate non force controls.


Otherwise, the teens will do as they
will and mom and dad got nothin to
say about it till it's all over. Of curse,
our dogs ain't adolescent kids and
vice versa.


REPRESSING behavior problems only
causes the problem to CHANGE CLOTHES.
You cannot frighten fright HOWETA a critter.
It's GOTTA GO SOMEWHERE, so it CHANGES.


Rewarding completed behaviors doesn't
add up either. HOWE can we reward a
behavior the dog is not thinking of?


If we cannot punish a past behavior,
HOWE can we reward a PAST behavior?


Either we correct or punish a behavior in
the act or we've missed the opportunity for
that instance, is that not so?


Now all we got to do is figure out HOWE
to correct without punishing or criticizing
or diminishing our standing as best pals
and buddies and yet maintain our necessary
100% total control, discipline, and respect?


HOWE can we earn respect if we violate
personal space and individual preferences?


HOWE can we "cater to" our dog's
preferences and meet our needs for control?


HOWE can we think in terms of alpha
or dominance and mingle that with the
human family social order and structure
of the human HOWEShold and the
dichotomy of a pack of feral dogs or
wild wolves?


Your living room is not a dugout in the
woods and it's not a laboratory where
the conditions are scientifically consistent
and controlled. We got kids, friends,
spouses, extended family members,
everything to worry about that we cannot
control unless we're on the spot and in charge.


That can't always happen.


That's HOWE COME we delegate
authority and set rules and train our
children HOWE to respond when
they are in control.


Everything is done in an ordinary basic
approach in most HOWESes so mom
and dad and the kids know each other's
whereabouts and schedules and responsibilities.


For the most part, it works well. HOWEver,
when it fails, it fails big time. That's HOWE
COME we get stray dogs and run away kids
and juvenile delinquents and hyperactive out
of control dogs kids spouses divorces and
fratricide, matricide and patricide.


One trainer friend of The Puppy Wizard
sez your wife is many times more likely
to hurt or kill your kid than your pit bull
dog is likely to.


Your Puppy Wizard has the facts.


Debate is for pleasure. The bottom line is,
Your Puppy Wizard has only WON method
and NO alternatives because we do not
modify the method to suite the individual.


The individual learns according to the method.


There's no force, but there's no CHOICE.
Dogs do not make decisions for which they
need to be corrected or rewarded, THEY'RE
DUMB FREAKIN ANIMALS. Like your kids.


Dogs "make decisions" for situations they've
not been pupperly trained and conditioned
to respond to do as you'd prefer.


Dog training ain't LUCK.


Is it.


The Wits' End Dog Training Method works
for all dogs, all handlers, and all training
goals. It's EZ, FAST, and FREE, and
guarantees perfect results, nearly instantly.


Your Puppy Wizard. }YPW ; ~ }


From: Your Name )
Subject: A Relative Judgement Of A Circular
Assignment Of Thought
Date: 2003-05-12 17:42:39 PST


Excellent post wiz. Applicable to rural areas where there
are lots of dogs and to all dog owners, and to those who are
grieving for dogs they have lost. Maybe they will do better
with their next dog(s).


If only they know HOWE.


the reason our "experts" don't like your posts Wiz, and try
to hide from them, is because you've got them pegged, dead
to rights, SOUP to nuts. They are AFRAID of being exposed
for who and what they are.


================


"I know that most men, including those at ease with
problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept
even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would
oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they
have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly
taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by
thread, into the fabric of their lives."
-Leo Tolstoy-


Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated
more complaints to my personal email than any other
controversial post I have made to date, bar none?:


CAVEAT
If you have to do things to your dog to train him that you
would rather not have to do, then you shouldn't be doing
them. If you have a dog trainer who tells you to jerk your
dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes,
shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, chin cuff, scruff shake or
punish your dog in any manner, that corrections
are appropriate, that the dog won't think of you as the
punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they
can't train your dog to do what you want, look for a
trainer that knows HOWE.


Thank you,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092
http://www.doggydoright.com

Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed.
-Francis Bacon-


There are terrible people who, instead of solving a
problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who
come after. Who ever can't hit the nail on the head
should, please, not hit at all.
-Nietzsche-


The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are
learned qualities.


The Wits' End Dog Training Method challenges the learning
centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged,
develop and continue to grow to make him smarter.


The Wits' End Dog Training method capitalizes on
praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and
timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant
corrections, and scolding.


-Jerry Howe-
The Puppy Wizard. }TPW ; ~ )


ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. }YPW ; ~ }
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