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Odd Behaviour
I have asked several people this question but have never been given the
right answer, I guess it's hard without knowing the dog in question well but maybe someone may have an idea. Some of you may know that my Lab x Collie George is a touch "odd" he's been likened to an Autistic person in his personality. Nevertheless he is a good dog and well behaved and quite obedient. George sleeps in my bedroom at night because he used to (very rarely now) pinch things and swallows them whole so we had to keep and eye on him. George has been neutered but if he has free reign of upstairs he will urinate on the beds. He knows this is naughty but he will still do it, he done it before Doug came along, don't laugh he even done it when my other half was in bed asleep!!! Can anyone shed any light on why he does it?? He was neutered as a youngster so surely it shouldn't be marking territory? I have an animal gate on the stairs to stop him getting up there now. Someone told me it was because he wasn't allowed upstairs but he used to be able to, Any suggestions??? Shell see my boys at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/hollyputt |
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Mark/Shell wrote: Someone told me it was because he wasn't allowed upstairs but he used to be able to, Any suggestions??? Shell see my boys at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/hollyputt I have no background with dogs peeing on beds. But I can assure you dogs don't do things out of spite. There could be several things going on. This has been suggested to me by a friend and trainer: Dogs who eliminate on the bed in no way communicate that they are spiteful, mean, or stupid; they communicate that they have a medical, behavioral, and bond problem that requires an immediate, knowledgeable, and caring response. Yelling at the dog or punishing it will simply make the problem worse. Instead, take your pet for a long walk to calm down and consider all the different reasons that could lead to this behavior. Make sure the dog has limited access to areas which he has previously marked. Clean the marked areas thoroughly with a strong odor eliminator. Is Doug new to your life? If so there may be a bit of problem in that your dog is feeling pushed aside? Maybe more bonding time is in order. But maybe a trip to the Vet or behaviorist is in order. Gwen |
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"Mark/Shell" wrote in message
... I have asked several people this question but have never been given the right answer, I guess it's hard without knowing the dog in question well but maybe someone may have an idea. Some of you may know that my Lab x Collie George is a touch "odd" he's been likened to an Autistic person in his personality. Nevertheless he is a good dog and well behaved and quite obedient. George sleeps in my bedroom at night because he used to (very rarely now) pinch things and swallows them whole so we had to keep and eye on him. George has been neutered but if he has free reign of upstairs he will urinate on the beds. He knows this is naughty but he will still do it, he done it before Doug came along, don't laugh he even done it when my other half was in bed asleep!!! Can anyone shed any light on why he does it?? He was neutered as a youngster so surely it shouldn't be marking territory? I have an animal gate on the stairs to stop him getting up there now. Someone told me it was because he wasn't allowed upstairs but he used to be able to, It could be an uncommon form of dominance behavior and/or marking. Neutering doesn't completely erase a dog's desire to mark territory. I know plenty of neutered males who hike their legs every few feet outside. They normally won't do it anymore in the house but its not a 100% guarantee. -- Tara |
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"Gwen Watson" wrote in message ... Mark/Shell wrote: Someone told me it was because he wasn't allowed upstairs but he used to be able to, Any suggestions??? Shell see my boys at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/hollyputt I have no background with dogs peeing on beds. But I can assure you dogs don't do things out of spite. There could be several things going on. This has been suggested to me by a friend and trainer: Dogs who eliminate on the bed in no way communicate that they are spiteful, mean, or stupid; they communicate that they have a medical, behavioral, and bond problem that requires an immediate, knowledgeable, and caring response. I understand that he doesn't do it out of spite, he is only told off for it if he has been caught in the act, not if I notice it a while after it's done. George does have psychological problems which is why we took him on, he is a lovely well behaved dog but with odd ways. I have spoken to behavourists but noone has come up with a solution. At the moment he is only allowed upstairs when we are there not unaccomppanied. In all other areas he is fine. Yelling at the dog or punishing it will simply make the problem worse. Instead, take your pet for a long walk to calm down and consider all the different reasons that could lead to this behavior. Make sure the dog has limited access to areas which he has previously marked. Clean the marked areas thoroughly with a strong odor eliminator. Is Doug new to your life? If so there may be a bit of problem in that your dog is feeling pushed aside? Maybe more bonding time is in order. But maybe a trip to the Vet or behaviorist is in order. Doug arrived about 4 months after George and to be honest he has helped George immensley with his problems. George and Doug have bonded well and are like tue brothers. There is no rivalry in affection etc, George is the dominant dog. I would like to add that George is housetrained but has urinated on my sons bean bag and several times on the laundrybasket. Shell Gwen |
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"Mark/Shell" wrote in message
... I would like to add that George is housetrained but has urinated on my sons bean bag and several times on the laundrybasket. Does it matter if the bedding has recently been changed, washing away the previous scent? IOW, have you noticed a pattern of him only doing things like this on newly washed items? That would lead me to believe he doesn't like the scent being washed out so he puts it back. It just sounds like fairly normal marking behavior. -- Tara |
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Mark/Shell wrote: Any ideas how to stop it?? I'd like him to have free reign of the house. Shell Time and patience. How long have you had George? If you have had him less than 1 year I would say he just needs a bit more time to settle in. I hope the best for you and George. Gwen |
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"Tara O." wrote in message ... "Mark/Shell" wrote in message ... I would like to add that George is housetrained but has urinated on my sons bean bag and several times on the laundrybasket. Does it matter if the bedding has recently been changed, washing away the previous scent? IOW, have you noticed a pattern of him only doing things like this on newly washed items? That would lead me to believe he doesn't like the scent being washed out so he puts it back. It just sounds like fairly normal marking behavior. -- Tara What a horrible thought "fairly normal behaviour" too be honest I would say it is not clean stuff, I meant the dirty laundry baskey, and my adolescent sons bean bag (say no more) oh well the animal gate will have to stay put I guess. |
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"Gwen Watson" wrote in message ... Mark/Shell wrote: I understand that he doesn't do it out of spite, he is only told off for it if he has been caught in the act, not if I notice it a while after it's done. George does have psychological problems which is why we took him on, he is a lovely well behaved dog but with odd ways. I have spoken to behavourists but noone has come up with a solution. At the moment he is only allowed upstairs when we are there not unaccomppanied. In all other areas he is fine. Well has he been checked by the Vet for possible urinary problems? Just a possibility. It may be worth checking into. Doubtful but again one of those things better safe than sorry. It's rare he urinates on anything because wev'e leaned from past experience and he's not ever left in a situation where he can do it so I feel it rules out any medical problems. It's only on certain things, also he as free run to outside usually as when it's dry the back door is left open. Yelling at the dog or punishing it will simply make the problem worse. Instead, take your pet for a long walk to calm down and consider all the different reasons that could lead to this behavior. Make sure the dog has limited access to areas which he has previously marked. Clean the marked areas thoroughly with a strong odor eliminator. Is Doug new to your life? If so there may be a bit of problem in that your dog is feeling pushed aside? Maybe more bonding time is in order. But maybe a trip to the Vet or behaviorist is in order. Doug arrived about 4 months after George and to be honest he has helped George immensley with his problems. George and Doug have bonded well and are like tue brothers. There is no rivalry in affection etc, George is the dominant dog. That is good. It doesn't sound as though the problem has anything to do with the two of them at all. Again maybe there is something physical going on. BTW do you know anything about his past history? Owned by only male? Owned by only female? Abuse. Were there children in his past household? Did he live inside or out? Past history is sad, 5 homes by the time he was 6 months, we were his 6th, he was born in an animal shelter. I don't know that much about past owners but the ones before us brought him back to the shelter within 24hrs! He was a thief and would pinch anything and everything and swallow it, when we first had him he literally had to be watched 24/7, he is 100 times better now but can't resist a piece of shiney paper, a kids sock etc. so we are always careful whats hanging around. A lot of hard work with training taught him that pinching things was not on and to either drop it or bring it back meant a reward. He shadow watches (rarely now) and will sometimes sit and stare at nothing for long periods of time but can be distracted. He has been checked out by vets so epilepsy was ruled out and doesn't need medication. As you can see he is not your normal dog, like humans I've worked out dogs can be mentily ill too. But after saying all that otherwise he is well behave, loving and obedient and I wouldn't swap him for he world. I think he may have been beaten as quick movements would mean he would nip, not bite but nip. I would like to add that George is housetrained but has urinated on my sons bean bag and several times on the laundrybasket. Shell I don't know but I sure hope you find a solution soon. Good that you aren't allowing him upstairs for now. I think you should go up there with him. Maybe play with him on bed and then take him outside to go pee soon afterwards. He does sleep in our room as I like to know where he is in case he gets hold of something he shouldn't, although I feel I could trust him sleeping elsewhere now our room has his basket and I wouldn't want to upset what is familiar to him. By the way he does come up on the bed, just fir a cuddle before we go to sleep so it's not as if it's not allowed territory. I would just sort of drawing at possibilites. Best wishes on finding solution for George. Gwen |
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"Gwen Watson" wrote in message ... Mark/Shell wrote: Any ideas how to stop it?? I'd like him to have free reign of the house. Shell Time and patience. How long have you had George? If you have had him less than 1 year I would say he just needs a bit more time to settle in. I hope the best for you and George. Gwen I have had him a year this month, he has settled in and is a happy dog, the urinating isn't a problem as I said in another post we just make sure the opportunity isn't three for him to do it. I think that he has overcome so much in this year and Rome wasn't built in a day. Shell See my boys at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/hollyputt |
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Mark/Shell wrote: I think that he has overcome so much in this year and Rome wasn't built in a day. Shell See my boys at http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/hollyputt You can say that again. And considering all the homes he has been in before you obtained him, I would have to say he is doing marvelously. Gwen |
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