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Scariest LOOKING breeds, public perception?
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 00:42:39 -0500, "Paul E. Schoen"
wrote: I'm really a novice with dogs, and have been criticised a lot here, but I think I have done a good job with Muttley and he is now family. And the only thing I fear when walking him at night is that he could get loose and cause injury to someone or another pet, so I must take precautions and will need to work with him and probably a good trainer or behaviorist. Yes, at 75 pounds, I reckon Muttley would be intimidating! A face that dark is really hard to read, especially in low light. I'm curious about why your fear of him getting loose, etc., is at night. Is it because he is so dark in color? I have a black Chow Chow; so, I have a very similar concern. I'm not very afraid of what Tang might do, but terrified of what might be done to him. Sophie, my Chow Chow--Pekingnese mix is a different story. I believe she would chase a grizzly bear. I was just thinking, an Akita, with the right coloring, would be intimating. They are one of my favorites. I hope you are proud of what you're achieving with Muttley. ________________________ Experience is something you don't get--until just after you need it. |
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Attn: CBB people reading here
"Paul E. Schoen" wrote in news:4599f0f2$0$2644
: need to work with him and probably a good trainer or behaviorist. See, this is why people don't think anyone could do anything for Muttley and Paul. After all that has gone on, there is still a "probably" on that working with a good trainer or behaviorist statement. Paula |
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Attn: CBB people reading here
on Tue, 02 Jan 2007 07:10:54 GMT, Paula wrote:
See, this is why people don't think anyone could do anything for Muttley and Paul. After all that has gone on, there is still a "probably" on that working with a good trainer or behaviorist statement. I don't think they read breeds. -- Lynne http://picasaweb.google.com/what.the.hell.is.it/ "First get your facts; then you may distort them at your leisure." -- Mark Twain |
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Scariest LOOKING breeds, public perception?
Shelly wrote in
. 4: I would think so. I think the OP said they already have a large black mutt, though, and that it's not enough of a deterrant. It seems to me that if a large black mutt isn't doing the trick, not much else is likely to. Well, I think s/he said it was a retriever mix -- Queenie, who is the largest of my bunch, just doesn't bark at people approaching her -- she loves people and doesn't see them as a threat, even if they run up to her. Plus she has the sweetest, funnest expression on her face, I wasn't at all scared of her the first time she bounded up to me, off leash, no owner in sight. She is a goof. So I can understand the OP's feeling that his/her current dog is not a deterrent. I think just having 2 dogs can seem like a bigger deterrent, I pretty much feel safe at all times, feeling that no one would breach my domain. On the other hand, I felt safe all the time when I had only cats, so what the hell do I know? -- Catherine & Zoe the cockerchow & Queenie the black gold retriever & Max the Pomeranian & Rosalie the calico cat |
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Scariest LOOKING breeds, public perception?
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:56:29 +0000 (UTC), ceb
, clicked their heels and said: seems to me that if a large black mutt isn't doing the trick, not much else is likely to. Well, I think s/he said it was a retriever mix -- Queenie, who is the largest of my bunch, just doesn't bark at people approaching her -- she loves people and doesn't see them as a threat, even if they run up to her. Years ago, I brought my first FCR/wannabe with me to rescue someone from an abusive situation. She was the sweetest and quietest dog around, but the guy wasn't dog wise in the least, so I figured she was a scarier looking dog than my Golden! Fortunately, I didn't need to do much, as the police responded well, but I'd probably choose the same way again. Out of my 3 dogs, Franklin rarely barks except in play. The gold dogs OTOH........ -- Janet Boss www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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Scariest LOOKING breeds, public perception?
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ceb wrote: I can vouch for the black dogs being scary to others. Plus evidently black mutts have a lower chance of being adopted, so adopting one would be a kindness in that respect. (I personally find it a little bit hard to believe that black dogs are adopted less often, but I suppose my personal preferences are not all universal.) When I was living in Berkeley I visited their animal shelter and I was pretty surprised to find one large, separate area with kennels full of big black dogs that had been deemed unadoptable. There were probably about 20 of them and they all looked very similar. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Sending more troops into a war is properly called an "escalation." |
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Scariest LOOKING breeds, public perception?
"Paul E. Schoen" wrote in
: I think perhaps my dog Muttley may fit the image of a scary dog, Gee, ya think?! and he has backed that up (unfortunately) with inappropriate use of his teeth. You can read more about him and see what he looks like at www.snippety-snip-snip. Better yet, search the rpd* archives. You're more likely to get an idea of what an assberet Paul is and just how scary his dog is. It is possible that he had been bred by drug dealers to have the characteristics of other dogs thought of as intimidating or scary: Oh for the love of God! Do you *ever* quit? German Shepherd, Chow, Boxer, and Pit Bull. He is a solid, powerful 75 lb or so, and has a large head with a black mask, and brown eyes. He was a rescue from a bad neighborhood in Baltimore, and he was an Alpha pack master of 3 other dogs including a black Lab and a Rotweiler. Ya know what? I'm a little squicked out by your fetishization of Muttley's "powerfulness." He is not really a terribly dangerous or aggressive dog, but he has shown some very serious dog aggression, and he did bite someone after he was unintentionally provoked. He was *not* provoked. He bit the person as they were walking *away*. However, he is initially a bit fearful, and is usually somewhat aloof, even with me. In that behavior he seems almost a bit wolf-like, as I noticed with a friend's half-wolf. He was a nice animal, but his rather cold and distant, almost feral, stare was slightly intimidating and commanded respect. Again, with the fetishization. Also, there is nothing remotely "wolf-like" about Muttley. You don't want a truly dangerous dog, but one who is initially wary of you is likely to scare off a stranger. You don't want a dog that instantly takes to you and acts goofy and subservient. Such a dog might make a wonderful pet but will not be what you want. The only problem I see with a dog like Muttley is that he may be very aggressive toward your other dog, and it could get ugly if he wants to assert dominance. Telling someone to seek out a hinky dog for faux protection is pretty crappy advice, I think. I'm really a novice with dogs, Finally, he tells a truth! and have been criticised a lot here, but I think I have done a good job with Muttley and he is now family. You've done some sort of job with him, that's for sure. And the only thing I fear when walking him at night is that he could get loose and cause injury to someone or another pet, You should maybe put down the bong. You can't even be bothered to secure him properly during the day. so I must take precautions and will need to work with him and probably a good trainer or behaviorist. And another lie! You have no intention of dealing with a good trainer or behaviorist. It seems to me that you are too attached to Muttley just the way he is to change anything. -- Shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) Never put a sock in a toaster. -- Eddie Izzard |
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Scariest LOOKING breeds, public perception?
on Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:25:39 GMT, Shelly wrote:
Telling someone to seek out a hinky dog for faux protection is pretty crappy advice, I think. VERY crappy advice! -- Lynne |
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Lynne wrote in
m: Oh, Shelly, I'm sorry. That all must have been terribly difficult. Thank you. I have this nervous, dare I say sick habit of laughing and making jokes at inappropriate times. So, really, it wasn't as bad as it *could* have been. And it happened very quickly, so I didn't have time to get too upset. Then, after it was over, I had a weird sense of "Did that really just happen?" It was the middle of the night when he died, so I wrapped him up in a blanket and dragged (couldn't lift him!) him onto the front deck. I sat with him for the rest of the night, watching the stars. When dawn started to break, I felt kind of silly, but then it occurred to me that sitting with the dead is a traditional thing to do. And, star watching is *always* appropriate. When our LabXShep, Raven died, my husband struggled to carry her up the hill to bury her. He's a big strong guy but Raven weighed over 100 lbs. So that's why I think about these things when I think about these things. I think that's inevitable. (How's that for beautiful grammar?) Works for me! Some kind of lift wouldn't be a bad idea to have on hand for a small person with a large dog, just in case. I just can't picture exactly what... Here's that inappropriate humor at work: appliance dolly! Also, a kids' wagon, wheel barrow, or garden cart would work well on flat ground. -- Shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) It is difficult to commit to living where we are, how we are. It is difficult and it is necessary. -- Julia Cameron |
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