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Blood Work for a dog with Seizures.. or Hannah's liver test was high....
oh joy,
it starts Hannah age 7 (next month) around 66 pounds (needs to lose about 6 pounds) lab/pit mix on Phenobarbital twice a day for a long time. (years now) has been at 75 mg twice a day had a seizure the end of December had a seizure the beginning of February her pheno levels are ok so we are adding the BS stuff. (I can't remember the name but it's what we've all talked about here) and will test for those levels in 2 months. her liver function test shows her elevated to about 300 which is higher than it should be but not shocking to the vet. the vet suggested milk thistle for her. 50-250 mg a day is the dose but the vet said that the dosage amount was up to me. anyone with anything worthwhile to say have an input? Nessa -- trying to be the best human she can, |
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Blood Work for a dog with Seizures.. or Hannah's liver test washigh....
On Feb 8, 4:35*pm, Nessa wrote:
oh joy, it starts Hannah age 7 (next month) around 66 pounds (needs to lose about 6 pounds) lab/pit mix on Phenobarbital twice a day for a long time. (years now) has been at 75 mg twice a day had a seizure the end of December had a seizure the beginning of February her pheno levels are ok so we are adding the BS stuff. (I can't remember the name but it's what we've all talked about here) and will test for those levels in 2 months. her liver function test shows her elevated to about 300 which is higher than it should be but not shocking to the vet. the vet suggested milk thistle for her. 50-250 mg a day is the dose but the vet said that the dosage amount was up to me. anyone with anything worthwhile to say *have an input? Nessa -- trying to be the best human she can, I've heard several people use milk thistle for the liver in dogs and in humans with success. Has she ever had a thyroid panel done? |
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Blood Work for a dog with Seizures.. or Hannah's liver test washigh....
Nessa wrote:
the vet suggested milk thistle for her. 50-250 mg a day is the dose but the vet said that the dosage amount was up to me. anyone with anything worthwhile to say have an input? I have no idea if you will deem this worthwhile, but here it is: Google is your friend, but beware - you will find a lot of sites that say "it is said that." However, unlike many herbal preparations, there are a lot of studies of silymarin (milk thistle extract). There is evidence that silymarin is liver-protective in humans, rats and canines. Search Pubmed for more information: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez, for example, http://preview.tinyurl.com/cf2c74 It's a shame that your vet can't be more specific w/r/t dosage, but as far as I know (and remember I'm just some random stranger on the internet), there isn't much evidence of silymarin damage at even fairly high doses. FurPaw -- Don't believe everything that you think. To reply, unleash the dog. |
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Blood Work for a dog with Seizures.. or Hannah's liver test washigh....
On Feb 9, 8:50*am, FurPaw wrote:
Nessa wrote: the vet suggested milk thistle for her. 50-250 mg a day is the dose but the vet said that the dosage amount was up to me. anyone with anything worthwhile to say *have an input? I have no idea if you will deem this worthwhile, but here it is: Google is your friend, but beware - you will find a lot of sites that say "it is said that." However, unlike many herbal preparations, there are a lot of studies of silymarin (milk thistle extract). There is evidence that silymarin is liver-protective in humans, rats and canines. Search Pubmed for more information:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez, for example,http://preview.tinyurl.com/cf2c74 It's a shame that your vet can't be more specific w/r/t dosage, but as far as I know (and remember I'm just some random stranger on the internet), there isn't much evidence of silymarin damage at even fairly high doses. FurPaw -- Don't believe everything that you think. To reply, unleash the dog. Furpaw you are always helpful. AT LEAST my vet gave me the idea! |
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Blood Work for a dog with Seizures.. or Hannah's liver test was high....
Nessa said in rec.pets.dogs.health:
her pheno levels are ok so we are adding the BS stuff. (I can't remember the name but it's what we've all talked about here) and will test for those levels in 2 months. Potassium Bromide (KBr)? It's worth a try, but at 7 years old and the seizures not being cluster, looking for a medical cause might be a consideration. her liver function test shows her elevated to about 300 which is higher than it should be but not shocking to the vet. Liver function tests can be influenced by other factors, like when the last meal was fed, so Hannah's results may have been interpreted with this in mind. -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
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Blood Work for a dog with Seizures.. or Hannah's liver test washigh....
On Feb 9, 12:07*pm, Rocky wrote:
Nessa said in rec.pets.dogs.health: her pheno levels are ok so we are adding the BS stuff. (I can't remember the name but it's what we've all talked about here) and will test for those levels in 2 months. Potassium Bromide (KBr)? *It's worth a try, but at 7 years old and the seizures not being cluster, looking for a medical cause might be a consideration. her liver function test shows her elevated to about 300 which is higher than it should be but not shocking to the vet. Liver function tests can be influenced by other factors, like when the last meal was fed, so Hannah's results may have been interpreted with this in mind. -- --Matt. *Rocky's a Dog. Really??? she was 12 hours out from food and meds when this was done but she was suffering greatly from explosive diarrhea that day. she is not having cluster seizures she's having 1 seizure every 3-4 weeks. it's mild but that's how it started when we built up to her grand mal 72 hour seizure a couple of years ago... |
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Blood Work for a dog with Seizures.. or Hannah's liver test was high....
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:41:37 -0800 (PST), Tracey K
wrote: On Feb 8, 4:35*pm, Nessa wrote: oh joy, it starts Hannah age 7 (next month) around 66 pounds (needs to lose about 6 pounds) lab/pit mix on Phenobarbital twice a day for a long time. (years now) has been at 75 mg twice a day had a seizure the end of December had a seizure the beginning of February her pheno levels are ok so we are adding the BS stuff. (I can't remember the name but it's what we've all talked about here) and will test for those levels in 2 months. her liver function test shows her elevated to about 300 which is higher than it should be but not shocking to the vet. the vet suggested milk thistle for her. 50-250 mg a day is the dose but the vet said that the dosage amount was up to me. anyone with anything worthwhile to say *have an input? Nessa -- trying to be the best human she can, I've heard several people use milk thistle for the liver in dogs and in humans with success. Has she ever had a thyroid panel done? no she has not. my other dog (Bagel) had thyroid issues although I"m betting Harley does too! what makes you think she needs a thyroid panel done? Nessa -- trying to be the best human she can, |
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Blood Work for a dog with Seizures.. or Hannah's liver test was high....
Nessa said in rec.pets.dogs.health:
what makes you think she needs a thyroid panel done? http://www.canine-epilepsy.com/Lowthyroid.html -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
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Blood Work for a dog with Seizures.. or Hannah's liver test was high....
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:41:37 -0800 (PST), Tracey K
wrote: On Feb 8, 4:35*pm, Nessa wrote: oh joy, it starts Hannah age 7 (next month) around 66 pounds (needs to lose about 6 pounds) lab/pit mix on Phenobarbital twice a day for a long time. (years now) has been at 75 mg twice a day had a seizure the end of December had a seizure the beginning of February her pheno levels are ok so we are adding the BS stuff. (I can't remember the name but it's what we've all talked about here) and will test for those levels in 2 months. her liver function test shows her elevated to about 300 which is higher than it should be but not shocking to the vet. the vet suggested milk thistle for her. 50-250 mg a day is the dose but the vet said that the dosage amount was up to me. anyone with anything worthwhile to say *have an input? Nessa -- trying to be the best human she can, I've heard several people use milk thistle for the liver in dogs and in humans with success. Has she ever had a thyroid panel done? no she has not. my other dog (Bagel) had thyroid issues although I"m betting Harley does too! what makes you think she needs a thyroid panel done? Nessa -- trying to be the best human she can, |
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Blood Work for a dog with Seizures.. or Hannah's liver test washigh....
Rocky wrote:
Nessa said in rec.pets.dogs.health: what makes you think she needs a thyroid panel done? http://www.canine-epilepsy.com/Lowthyroid.html Dr Dodds is by far the best one to do the testing as well. She fits your results to other dogs of the same age, breed, and sex for a much better idea of what is going on. She has a much larger database of test results than a local vet could ever have. You would get a much more accurate picture of problems. |
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