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Old June 21st 09, 12:57 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Dog food plate height?

I have heard that the height at which a dog's plate is put is important.

I have a Mutt and Jeff situation, a Corgi and a Lab/Rott.

I am going to build a higher platform for the Lab/Rott, as I think it is
better for them. I just need to do it right, because if it isn't right, and
the bowl scoots and makes any noise, then she shies away from it.

And I have problems with the Corgi coming over when we're not watching and
intimidating the Lab/Rott away from her dish, and then gorging himself.

So, I'd be solving two problems at once.

But I'd like to hear logical opinions about the height of a dog's feeding
platform.

TIA

Steve


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Old June 21st 09, 02:29 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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SteveB wrote:
I have heard that the height at which a dog's plate is put is important.

I have a Mutt and Jeff situation, a Corgi and a Lab/Rott.

I am going to build a higher platform for the Lab/Rott, as I think it is
better for them. I just need to do it right, because if it isn't right, and
the bowl scoots and makes any noise, then she shies away from it.

And I have problems with the Corgi coming over when we're not watching and
intimidating the Lab/Rott away from her dish, and then gorging himself.

So, I'd be solving two problems at once.

But I'd like to hear logical opinions about the height of a dog's feeding
platform.


My preference for height is high enough so
that their don't have to put too much
pressure on their elbows on a regular basis.
So a standing position, just low enough for
them to be comfortable eating (not stretching
their necks or having to choke themselves on
the edge of the bowl, of course), without
having to dip their chests down at all or
bend their front legs. Rotts especially carry
a lot of weight in their fronts, and for them
to have to scrunch their front legs up for
every meal, IMO, puts a lot of pressure on
those front joints every day.

The alternative is what I did with my sheppie
as he was getting older was to feed him on
the floor. By then he preferred to eat laying
down.

Now that I feed raw, it depends on what Annie
is eating. If she's working on a big frozen
chunk of dinner, she likes to get all comfy
in her crate (keeps the cats away ;-) and
gnaw on it laying down. If its just cool or
body temperature, then she snarfs it up from
a kennel cup I keep outside of her crate at
not quite shoulder level.
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Old June 21st 09, 07:12 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Dog food plate height?

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I have heard that the height at which a dog's plate is put is important.

I have a Mutt and Jeff situation, a Corgi and a Lab/Rott.

I am going to build a higher platform for the Lab/Rott, as I think it is
better for them. I just need to do it right, because if it isn't right, and
the bowl scoots and makes any noise, then she shies away from it.

And I have problems with the Corgi coming over when we're not watching and
intimidating the Lab/Rott away from her dish, and then gorging himself.

So, I'd be solving two problems at once.

But I'd like to hear logical opinions about the height of a dog's feeding
platform.


We've used one of these:

http://tinyurl.com/mykcmd

for our GSD for several years and have been pretty happy with it. We
don't use it to store food in, just to provide a platform to elevate her
dish. Most of the comparable platforms I've run across are considerably
more expensive. It is on our concrete back patio and doesn't slide
around when the dog is eating - not sure how it would work on a smoother
surface such as tile, but I'd bet it's going to stay in place much
better than a bare dish does.

Both of the issues I've heard about regarding dish height have already
been mentioned: strain on the dog's joints/front legs, and bloat
(particularly in the deep-chested breeds).


Dave

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Old June 21st 09, 11:51 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Dog food plate height?

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"SteveB" wrote:

I have heard that the height at which a dog's plate is put is important.


There has been some evidence that raised bowls actually may contribute
to bloat.

And I have problems with the Corgi coming over when we're not watching and
intimidating the Lab/Rott away from her dish, and then gorging himself.


That isn't acceptable. That means you NEED to watch. Why do you let
that happen?

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www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
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Old June 22nd 09, 02:02 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Dog food plate height?


"Janet Boss" wrote in message
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In article ,
"SteveB" wrote:

I have heard that the height at which a dog's plate is put is important.


There has been some evidence that raised bowls actually may contribute
to bloat.

And I have problems with the Corgi coming over when we're not watching
and
intimidating the Lab/Rott away from her dish, and then gorging himself.


That isn't acceptable. That means you NEED to watch. Why do you let
that happen?

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com


Because I'm not a control freak, and have other things to do than watch my
dogs every movement?

What do I win?


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Old June 22nd 09, 03:01 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Dog food plate height?

SteveB wrote:
I have heard that the height at which a dog's plate is put is important.

I have a Mutt and Jeff situation, a Corgi and a Lab/Rott.

I am going to build a higher platform for the Lab/Rott, as I think it is
better for them. I just need to do it right, because if it isn't right, and
the bowl scoots and makes any noise, then she shies away from it.

And I have problems with the Corgi coming over when we're not watching and
intimidating the Lab/Rott away from her dish, and then gorging himself.

So, I'd be solving two problems at once.

But I'd like to hear logical opinions about the height of a dog's feeding
platform.


Since the topic of bloat has come up, one
major factor in this is what type of food you
feed.

Are they on kibble?
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Old June 22nd 09, 03:09 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Dog food plate height?

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SteveB wrote:
What do I win?


You win a dog that steals another dog's food. It's all
about the tradeoffs.
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Old June 22nd 09, 03:53 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Dog food plate height?

SteveB wrote:
"Janet Boss" wrote in message
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In article ,
"SteveB" wrote:


And I have problems with the Corgi coming over when we're not watching
and
intimidating the Lab/Rott away from her dish, and then gorging himself.

That isn't acceptable. That means you NEED to watch. Why do you let
that happen?

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com


Because I'm not a control freak, and have other things to do than watch my
dogs every movement?

What do I win?


You win dogs that don't snark over food. The only way you will
train your Corgi not to intimidate the Lab/Rott is not to allow
him to do that, to train him that it is not acceptable. And that
requires watching, and, yes, establishing control. He won't
learn dish manners by osmosis.

Having dogs means becoming a control freak, at least in those
areas where the dogs' current behaviors are not acceptable to you.

I'm wondering here - is your question really, "So what if I'm
watching? How do I train the Corgi to stay away from the
Lab/Rott's dish?" I don't want to presume that you don't know
this, but if you don't it's ok to ask.

FurPaw

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Old June 22nd 09, 12:02 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Dog food plate height?

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"SteveB" wrote:


Because I'm not a control freak, and have other things to do than watch my
dogs every movement?


There are times when supervision is needed. This is one of them. How
long does it takes dogs to eat a meal? Mine do in about 1-2 minutes I'd
guess. Maybe not quite. All in a row, nobody going to the others' bowl
or threatening the others. How is this achieved? Through initial
supervision when a new dog arrives. It isn't exactly a hardship and
only takes a few moments. Once the rules and patterns are established,
the supervision is no longer necessary.

What do I win?


The lazy-ass-dumb-as-crap dog owner award probably.

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Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
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Old June 22nd 09, 12:08 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Dog food plate height?

In article ,
Janet Boss wrote:
There are times when supervision is needed. This is one of them. How
long does it takes dogs to eat a meal? Mine do in about 1-2 minutes I'd
guess. Maybe not quite.


Right, mine too. However, some dogs are slow eaters and
Steve's may be those kinds of dogs. I've had dogs that have
arrived here as slow eaters and I've trained them not to be
for a variety of reasons, including that it tends to
exacerbate the kind of bowl raiding that he's experiencing.
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