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Please tell me which of the following breeds I should get: Akita, Doberman, Collie, Wolf Hybrid, Boxer, or GSD?
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Kate Lloyd wrote: o I might make an educated decision? OK, first of all don't get a wolf hybrid. Wolves were not meant to be kept in captivity and it just worng to try and domesticate them. All the friends that I've had that have had wolf hybrids, well the dog was misrable and only wanted to run off. Might just be me, but I think that the wolves should be left in the wilderness where they belong. Doberman and Akitas are great dogs, but they are also high maintence. They take a lot of looking after and training, especially when they are young. These dogs have a bad rep. but if you train them correctly they can be wonderful. I would'nt get a German Sheperd, they are nice but their problem is that they are also the victims of several centuries of inbreding so they tend to have serious problems with their hind legs. They also have other medical problems. Unless you are ready to handle this don't get a German Sheperd unless you know it's herritage. I don't know much about collies except that Lassie was one. Another wonderful type of Dog is an American Pit Bull. My roommate and I have one and he rocks. They also have to be trained correctly, but they are wonderful dogs. There is also Rotties, anyway I can go on and on about the pros and cons of different dogs but I'm not going to. Hope this was helpfull. - Kate The only thing Kate said that I actually agree with is that you should avoid German Shepherds and Wolf-Hybrids. The dachshund is the true cadillac of all dog breeds. Wiener dogs kick ass! They are the most punk rock of all dogs by far. Pug! http://www.dog-pictures.co.uk/dog-br...dex.php?cat=30 -- Andrew @ Rockface np: (Winamp is not active ;-) www.rockface-records.co.uk |
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he wanted to make sure he didn't get a "coon" dog.
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on 2005-03-10 at 13:00 wrote: A wolf hybrid is as much of a dog as a Malmute or German Sheperd is. All dogs are wolves and wolves are dogs. except for that pesky domestication issue. there are real and important cognitive differences between wolves and dogs. because they have been domesticated, dogs look to humans for cues and assistance while wolves do not. this makes a *huge* difference in relative trainability and livability of dogs and wolves. http://www.harvardmagazine.com/on-line/030374.html However it takes a unique, responsible, educatable person to own a wolfdog. Just as the Malamute is not a breed for everyone, neither is the wolfdog. a wolfdog is not a breed. (i wasn't going to reply to this, but since he posted it several times, i figured Mr. Stevens must be anxious for feedback.) -- shelly http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com/ (updated dailyish, apparently) |
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Jim Stevens wrote:
A wolf hybrid is as much of a dog as a Malmute or German Sheperd is. All dogs are wolves and wolves are dogs. However it takes a unique, responsible, educatable person to own a wolfdog. Just as the Malamute is not a breed for everyone, neither is the wolfdog. I personally woudn't own a chihuahua (sp?). Why not? |
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One bright night in the middle of the day on 6 Mar 2005 19:52:19
-0800, in rec.pets.dogs.breeds, some person or the other wrote: I would'nt get a German Sheperd, they are nice but their problem is that they are also the victims of several centuries of inbreding so they tend to have serious problems with their hind legs. Of course you realize that the German ShepHERD Dog breed has *not* been around for "several centuries" and that "inbrEEding" doesn't necessarily cause problems when it is done responsibly and with proper knowledge on the part of breeder. Right??? *~ *~ *~ Karen C. Spammers be damned! I can't be emailed from this account! So there... "You have no power here! ...Be gone! Before somebody drops a house on you too!" |
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Jim Stevens wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:46:58 +0000, onewaits wrote: Of course you realize that the German ShepHERD Dog breed has *not* been around for "several centuries" and that "inbrEEding" doesn't necessarily cause problems when it is done responsibly and with proper knowledge on the part of breeder. Right??? Isn't "line-breeding" the preferred term? Technically, line-breeding is a term invented by breeders, to distinguish the inbreeding of very close relatives (mother/son, brother/sister) from the breeding of less close relatives (uncles/grandfather on one side, etc.) Geneticists would call both inbreeding. However, the mistake most people make is in thinking that all inbreeding is bad and produces dumb dogs with health problems. That is not necessarily the case. In fact, inbreeding can produce superior specimens. All inbreeding does is make a dog more homozygous. Match a super dog to another super dog that's a relative, and you may get an even more super dog. Inbreeding and line breeding can make a line extremely consistent. It can also expose previously hidden recessives, some of which may be desireable and some of which may be disasterous. ALL dogs are inbred to at least some degree. Even most mixed breeds are just the mix of two or three breeds, and each breed is higly inbred. Inbreeding is what makes a breed. Without inbreeding, there would be no such thing as a German Shepherd or an Akita. ALL dogs suffer from genetic diseases. However, due to inbreeding, different breeds either do or do not have specific diseases--those diseases may be limited to a breed. Dobermans do not get Fanconi Syndrome. Goldens do not get Wobblers Disease. ALL dogs get hip dysplasia, but some breeds have a lot of it, some very little. As long as humans have dogs, we will be dealing with inbreeding. That's just the way it is. |
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"-X-" wrote in message ups.com... Kate Lloyd wrote: o I might make an educated decision? OK, first of all don't get a wolf hybrid. Wolves were not meant to be kept in captivity and it just worng to try and domesticate them. All the friends that I've had that have had wolf hybrids, well the dog was misrable and only wanted to run off. Might just be me, but I think that the wolves should be left in the wilderness where they belong. Doberman and Akitas are great dogs, but they are also high maintence. They take a lot of looking after and training, especially when they are young. These dogs have a bad rep. but if you train them correctly they can be wonderful. I would'nt get a German Sheperd, they are nice but their problem is that they are also the victims of several centuries of inbreding so they tend to have serious problems with their hind legs. They also have other medical problems. Unless you are ready to handle this don't get a German Sheperd unless you know it's herritage. I don't know much about collies except that Lassie was one. Another wonderful type of Dog is an American Pit Bull. My roommate and I have one and he rocks. They also have to be trained correctly, but they are wonderful dogs. There is also Rotties, anyway I can go on and on about the pros and cons of different dogs but I'm not going to. Hope this was helpfull. - Kate The only thing Kate said that I actually agree with is that you should avoid German Shepherds and Wolf-Hybrids. The dachshund is the true cadillac of all dog breeds. Wiener dogs kick ass! They are the most punk rock of all dogs by far. I'd avoid a boxer, unless you have a LOT of time and room to devote to them. They are great dogs, but very active, and large. My sister in law had one, but had to get rid of it when he wouldn't stop chasing the cattle. And no one here believes in penning a dog. There is no lot on the market large enough to be fair |
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:15:13 -0800, "SheWolf" wrote: I'd avoid a boxer, unless you have a LOT of time and room to devote to them. They are great dogs, but very active, and large. they're not that large (~55-60lbs), but they *are* high-octane dogs. they need a lot of physical exercise and mental stimulation. My sister in law had one, but had to get rid of it when he wouldn't stop chasing the cattle. And no one here believes in penning a dog. There is no lot on the market large enough to be fair i've had no trouble keeping a Boxer with only a tiny, city yard. and, for a brief time, no yard at all. i currently have a 1.5 acre "dog yard." it's plenty big enough for my dogs to gallop around in, which is nice. dogs need more than that, though--especially Boxers. in addition to exercise and mental stimulation, they need supervision and a *lot* of human attention. if they don't get those things, they will not thrive. without them, they are also likely to engage in less than desirable behavior, like chasing cattle. FWIW my own Boxer would love to worry livestock ("oh, lookee, horsies!!" boing boing boing!). simply keeping her indoors solves that problem very nicely; making sure she's got the attention, mental stimulation, and exercise she needs makes keeping her indoors easy. if they fit into your lifestyle, Boxers are not difficult dogs to live with. -- shelly http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette || http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com The impossible often has a kind of integrity which the merely improbable lacks. -- Douglas Adams |
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Before advising you (or anyone else for that matter) on any breed (for
the sake of arguement we'll call wolfdog a breed in this case), I'd want to know what your lifestyle is? Can you afford to put up a good sized habitat for when your companion animal needs to be outside? (With or without you). How much time can you spend with your companion? Do you have other canids? What do you know about any given breed you've chosen and why did you choose those breeds in the first place? What do you know about training? Far too many canids are needing rescue for the simple fact that people get a pup/dog simply because they like the look or the reputation of a particular breed. If someone doesn't have the temperament or lifestyle for the breed they choose, they'll more than likely be yet another human who adds to the rescue problem. Camille Lupangelicus for a Divine Dog http://DivineDog.com |
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