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Old June 12th 09, 01:28 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
chardonnay9
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Anyone that would think that a homeopath considers vaccines a good thing
doesn't know much about homeopathy at all. It would go against the very
nature of what homeopathy is about.

Dr Carley was, among other things, a surgeon and a very good one till
she studied holistic medicine and chose to take that path in life. She
talks about vaccine damage in both humans and pets.
http://drcarley.com/

Vaccines - The True Weapons of Mass Destruction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6dffXhewVE

Science of Vaccine Damage
The vaccinated, but not the non-vaccinated, dogs in the Purdue studies
developed autoantibodies
to many of their own biochemicals, including fibronectin, laminin, DNA,
albumin, cytochrome C,
cardiolipin and collagen.
This means that the vaccinated dogs -- "but not the non-vaccinated
dogs"-- were attacking their
own fibronectin, which is involved in tissue repair, cell multiplication
and growth, and
differentiation between tissues and organs in a living organism.
The vaccinated Purdue dogs also developed autoantibodies to laminin,
which is involved in
many cellular activities including the adhesion, spreading,
differentiation, proliferation and
movement of cells. Vaccines thus appear to be capable of removing the
natural intelligence of
cells.
http://drcarley.com/Science_of_vaccine_damage.pdf

Homeopathy- not Vaccines!
http://www.hpathy.com/health/varghese-vaccines.asp

In Cuba there was a government program for flu shots and as it grew the
percentage of the population getting the flu never really changed. Once
the program was scrapped, the new one consisting of homeopathic remedies
was put into place and the number of flu patients fell like a rock.

Hasn't anyone wondered why, with a widespread flu shot program here in
the US, the percentage of people getting the flu doesn't drop? It
doesn't prevent flu, that's why.
http://www.irishhomeopaths.com/homeopathy-cuba

Tara's insistence that most homeopaths think vaccines are needed is so
out in space I can't help but wonder what is behind her thought process.
Some do promote homeopathic "vaccines" or nosodes but that view isn't
shared among all homeopaths and I don't see any links that show they
recommend alopathic vaccines.
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Old June 12th 09, 01:54 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Homeopaths and their views on vaccines

On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:28:11 -0400, chardonnay9
wrote:


Anyone that would think that a homeopath considers vaccines a good thing
doesn't know much about homeopathy at all. It would go against the very
nature of what homeopathy is about.

Dr Carley was, among other things, a surgeon and a very good one till
she studied holistic medicine and chose to take that path in life. She
talks about vaccine damage in both humans and pets.
http://drcarley.com/

Vaccines - The True Weapons of Mass Destruction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6dffXhewVE

Science of Vaccine Damage
The vaccinated, but not the non-vaccinated, dogs in the Purdue studies
developed autoantibodies
to many of their own biochemicals, including fibronectin, laminin, DNA,
albumin, cytochrome C,
cardiolipin and collagen.
This means that the vaccinated dogs -- "but not the non-vaccinated
dogs"-- were attacking their
own fibronectin, which is involved in tissue repair, cell multiplication
and growth, and
differentiation between tissues and organs in a living organism.
The vaccinated Purdue dogs also developed autoantibodies to laminin,
which is involved in
many cellular activities including the adhesion, spreading,
differentiation, proliferation and
movement of cells. Vaccines thus appear to be capable of removing the
natural intelligence of
cells.
http://drcarley.com/Science_of_vaccine_damage.pdf


Do you really want to offer Dr. Carley as a reference?

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/carley1.html
In July 2003, the New York State Board for Professional Medical
Conduct (BPMC) found Rebecca Lee Roczen, M.D. (a/k/a Rebecca Lee
Carley, M.D) guilty of "practicing while impaired by a mental
disability" and "having a psychiatric condition which impaired her
ability to practice medicine." Her medical license was suspended for
five years with a provision that her ability to practice could be
restored after one year if she sought psychiatric treatment and the
psychiatrist recommended that she be considered fit to practice again.
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Old June 12th 09, 02:17 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
chardonnay9
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Default Homeopaths and their views on vaccines

wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:28:11 -0400, chardonnay9
wrote:

Anyone that would think that a homeopath considers vaccines a good thing
doesn't know much about homeopathy at all. It would go against the very
nature of what homeopathy is about.

Dr Carley was, among other things, a surgeon and a very good one till
she studied holistic medicine and chose to take that path in life. She
talks about vaccine damage in both humans and pets.
http://drcarley.com/

Vaccines - The True Weapons of Mass Destruction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6dffXhewVE

Science of Vaccine Damage
The vaccinated, but not the non-vaccinated, dogs in the Purdue studies
developed autoantibodies
to many of their own biochemicals, including fibronectin, laminin, DNA,
albumin, cytochrome C,
cardiolipin and collagen.
This means that the vaccinated dogs -- "but not the non-vaccinated
dogs"-- were attacking their
own fibronectin, which is involved in tissue repair, cell multiplication
and growth, and
differentiation between tissues and organs in a living organism.
The vaccinated Purdue dogs also developed autoantibodies to laminin,
which is involved in
many cellular activities including the adhesion, spreading,
differentiation, proliferation and
movement of cells. Vaccines thus appear to be capable of removing the
natural intelligence of
cells.
http://drcarley.com/Science_of_vaccine_damage.pdf


Do you really want to offer Dr. Carley as a reference?

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/carley1.html
In July 2003, the New York State Board for Professional Medical
Conduct (BPMC) found Rebecca Lee Roczen, M.D. (a/k/a Rebecca Lee
Carley, M.D) guilty of "practicing while impaired by a mental
disability" and "having a psychiatric condition which impaired her
ability to practice medicine." Her medical license was suspended for
five years with a provision that her ability to practice could be
restored after one year if she sought psychiatric treatment and the
psychiatrist recommended that she be considered fit to practice again.


Do you really want to offer Stephen Barrett as a reference?

http://www.quackpo****ch.org/quackpo...ts/barrett.htm
The Psychiatric profession rejected Barrett years ago, for Barrett
could NOT pass the examinations necessary to become "Board Certified."
Which, is no doubt why Barrett was, throughout his career, relegated to
lower level "part time" positions.

Barrett, we know, was forced to give up his medical license in
Pennsylvania in 1993 when his "part-time" employment at the State Mental
Hospital was terminated, and he had so few (nine) private patients
during his last five years of practice, that he couldn't afford the
Malpractice Insurance premiums Pennsylvania requires.

http://www.quackpo****ch.org/
An education in what Barrett has been up to and how it all began.

http://www.canlyme.com/quackwatch.html
At trial, under a heated cross-examination by Negrete, Barrett conceded
that he was not a Medical Board Certified psychiatrist because he had
failed the certification exam.

This was a major revelation since Barrett had provided supposed expert
testimony as a psychiatrist and had testified in numerous court cases.
Barrett also had said that he was a legal expert even though he had no
formal legal training.

The most damning testimony before the jury, under the intense
cross-examination by Negrete, was that Barrett had filed similar
defamation lawsuits against almost 40 people across the country within
the past few years and had not won one single one at trial.

During the course of his examination, Barrett also had to concede his
ties to the AMA, Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and Food & Drug
Administration (FDA).
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Old June 12th 09, 02:27 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
Melinda Shore
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Default Homeopaths and their views on vaccines

In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
[ ... ]

http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/bolen.html

This can go on all day, and then some. You've got a lengthy
history of relying on crackpots for your sources and
ignoring research, and this is just one more of the same.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community
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Old June 12th 09, 02:36 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Homeopaths and their views on vaccines

On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:17:17 -0400, chardonnay9
wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:28:11 -0400, chardonnay9
wrote:

Anyone that would think that a homeopath considers vaccines a good thing
doesn't know much about homeopathy at all. It would go against the very
nature of what homeopathy is about.

Dr Carley was, among other things, a surgeon and a very good one till
she studied holistic medicine and chose to take that path in life. She
talks about vaccine damage in both humans and pets.
http://drcarley.com/

Vaccines - The True Weapons of Mass Destruction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6dffXhewVE

Science of Vaccine Damage
The vaccinated, but not the non-vaccinated, dogs in the Purdue studies
developed autoantibodies
to many of their own biochemicals, including fibronectin, laminin, DNA,
albumin, cytochrome C,
cardiolipin and collagen.
This means that the vaccinated dogs -- "but not the non-vaccinated
dogs"-- were attacking their
own fibronectin, which is involved in tissue repair, cell multiplication
and growth, and
differentiation between tissues and organs in a living organism.
The vaccinated Purdue dogs also developed autoantibodies to laminin,
which is involved in
many cellular activities including the adhesion, spreading,
differentiation, proliferation and
movement of cells. Vaccines thus appear to be capable of removing the
natural intelligence of
cells.
http://drcarley.com/Science_of_vaccine_damage.pdf


Do you really want to offer Dr. Carley as a reference?

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/carley1.html
In July 2003, the New York State Board for Professional Medical
Conduct (BPMC) found Rebecca Lee Roczen, M.D. (a/k/a Rebecca Lee
Carley, M.D) guilty of "practicing while impaired by a mental
disability" and "having a psychiatric condition which impaired her
ability to practice medicine." Her medical license was suspended for
five years with a provision that her ability to practice could be
restored after one year if she sought psychiatric treatment and the
psychiatrist recommended that she be considered fit to practice again.


Do you really want to offer Stephen Barrett as a reference?


Don't like Dr. Barrett?

Then how about the State of New York, Department of Health?
http://w3.health.state.ny.us/opmc/factions.nsf/cd901a6816701d94852568c0004e3fb7/777c474f253ed8d085256d5f0053955e/$FILE/ATTVAXXO/lc175786.pdf
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Old June 12th 09, 04:49 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
chardonnay9
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Default Homeopaths and their views on vaccines

Melinda Shore wrote:
In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
[ ... ]

http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/bolen.html

This can go on all day, and then some. You've got a lengthy
history of relying on crackpots for your sources and
ignoring research, and this is just one more of the same.


says the queen of crackpots....
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Old June 12th 09, 05:22 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
Tara Green
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Default Homeopaths and their views on vaccines

wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:17:17 -0400, chardonnay9
wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:28:11 -0400, chardonnay9
wrote:

Anyone that would think that a homeopath considers vaccines a good thing
doesn't know much about homeopathy at all. It would go against the very
nature of what homeopathy is about.

Dr Carley was, among other things, a surgeon and a very good one till
she studied holistic medicine and chose to take that path in life. She
talks about vaccine damage in both humans and pets.
http://drcarley.com/

Vaccines - The True Weapons of Mass Destruction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6dffXhewVE

Science of Vaccine Damage
The vaccinated, but not the non-vaccinated, dogs in the Purdue studies
developed autoantibodies
to many of their own biochemicals, including fibronectin, laminin, DNA,
albumin, cytochrome C,
cardiolipin and collagen.
This means that the vaccinated dogs -- "but not the non-vaccinated
dogs"-- were attacking their
own fibronectin, which is involved in tissue repair, cell multiplication
and growth, and
differentiation between tissues and organs in a living organism.
The vaccinated Purdue dogs also developed autoantibodies to laminin,
which is involved in
many cellular activities including the adhesion, spreading,
differentiation, proliferation and
movement of cells. Vaccines thus appear to be capable of removing the
natural intelligence of
cells.
http://drcarley.com/Science_of_vaccine_damage.pdf
Do you really want to offer Dr. Carley as a reference?

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/carley1.html
In July 2003, the New York State Board for Professional Medical
Conduct (BPMC) found Rebecca Lee Roczen, M.D. (a/k/a Rebecca Lee
Carley, M.D) guilty of "practicing while impaired by a mental
disability" and "having a psychiatric condition which impaired her
ability to practice medicine." Her medical license was suspended for
five years with a provision that her ability to practice could be
restored after one year if she sought psychiatric treatment and the
psychiatrist recommended that she be considered fit to practice again.

Do you really want to offer Stephen Barrett as a reference?


Don't like Dr. Barrett?

Then how about the State of New York, Department of Health?
http://w3.health.state.ny.us/opmc/factions.nsf/cd901a6816701d94852568c0004e3fb7/777c474f253ed8d085256d5f0053955e/$FILE/ATTVAXXO/lc175786.pdf


The basic premise here is that CHard thinks
that ALL homeopathic doctors are like her,
and that they all place their agenda above
the lives of the animals they are charged
with treating.

Thankfully, not all do that. Wieghing the
benefits against the risks is as much a part
of being a homeopathic doctor as it is being
an "allopathic" doctor. Just because a doctor
makes a determination based on the contexts
presented that benefits his patient, whether
or not the agenda pushers disagree, doesn't
make them "not" homeopathic....it just makes
them a good doctor.
 




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