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Old March 12th 13, 11:44 PM posted to misc.legal,rec.pets.dogs.health,soc.culture.usa,us.legal,alt.true-crime
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"Bill Graham" wrote:

jigo wrote:
deadrat wrote:
On 2/19/13 8:17 PM, Bill Graham wrote:
Mike F. wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:19:45 -0800, Bill Graham wrote:

Makes me really want to join up and go to Afghanistan.....
Instead, I think I'll throw up and go to any other country.....

Would you like help packing? I understand Scandinavia countries
are
mostly socialist. You should fit in well.

Where did you get the idea that I am a socialist?

Your posts.

I am about as
libertarian as you can get. I make John Stossel look like Karl
Marx...

You play the part of a libertarian on usenet.

I don't, "play". Everything I post is my real opinion, and I never
lie.


Your accusation seems rather bizarre; why would a socialist post
pro-libertarian material?

I remember that "love it or leave it" BS from the Vietnam days.
Aside from its other fallacies, why should people who oppose
oppressive government policies be the ones who should leave? I
obtained my property by working and paying for it, and I don't try
to tell people what to do outside my property. The government
obtained its control of the area by seizing it with force and
massacring the native population. Look up the "Trail of Tears" for
example. Pres. Jackson ignored the Supreme Court decision and
forcibly drove the Cherokee from their land.
http://www.cherokee.org/AboutTheNati...s/Default.aspx


Tha5t's true, and I would love to go back to that time and undo whqat he
did. but I wouldn;t fix it by giving them anything. I would fix it by making
them citizens and telling them that they were going to have to accept our
society and make it their own. And today, there is no way to fixit by any
other means either. You can't fix it by making me, whose great grandfather
was responiible, give something to their great grandchildren who were never
harmed because they hadn't been born yte. but I have to live in this crazy,
liberal, screwed up society, that has no logic....


Jackson himself enjoyed widespread support that ranged across all classes
and sections of the country. He attracted farmers, mechanics, laborers,
professionals and even businessmen. And all this without Jackson being
clearly pro- or antilabor, pro- or antibusiness, pro- or antilower,
middle or upper class. It has been demonstrated that he was a
strikebreaker [Jackson sent troops to control rebellions workers on the
Chesapeake and Ohio Canal], yet at different times ... he and the
Democrats received the backing of organized labor.

It was the new politics of ambiguity‹speaking for the lower and
middle classes to get their support in times of rapid growth and
potential turmoil. The two-party system came into its own in this time.
To give people a choice between two different parties and allow them, in
a period of rebellion, to choose the slightly more democratic one was an
ingenious mode of control. Like so much in the American system, it was
not devilishly contrived by some master plotters; it developed naturally
out of the needs of the situation. Remini compares the Jacksonian
Democrat Martin Van Buren, who succeeded Jackson as President, with
the Austrian conservative statesman Metternich: "Like Metternich, who
was seeking to thwart revolutionary discontent in Europe. Van Buren
and similar politicians were attempting to banish political disorder from
the United States by a balance of power achieved through two well-
organized and active parties."

The Jacksonian idea was to achieve stability and control by winning to
the Democratic party "the middling interest, and especially . .. the sub-
stantial yeomanry of the country" by "prudent, judicious, well-considered
reform." That is, reform that would not yield too much. These were the
words of Robert Rantoul, a reformer, corporation lawyer, and
Jacksonian Democrat. It was a forecast of the successful appeal of the
Democratic party‹and at times the Republican party‹in the twentieth
century.

A People's History of the United States: 1492-Present
by Howard Zinn
http://www.amazon.com/Peoples-Histor...resent/dp/B004
HZ6XWS/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1301948477&sr=1-4
(Available at a library near you, until it is closed.)
p. 217 -18

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Welcome to the New America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Next time vote Green Party

 




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