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shelly wrote: *likely*. they aren't as *likely* to accidentally get out of an apartment. most apartments--not all for sure!--do not have direct street access. there is usually an interior hallway or a courtyard. There is a BIG demographic difference then. Around here apartments rarely if ever have a hallway. Few if any have a courtyard. The doors do open directly to the roads and streets. I have lived in my share of apartments in Texas and none had either of the above. a part of it, absolutely. a substitute for home checks? i don't see anything to be gained by *not* doing home checks. So why did you obtain Harriet out of the newspaper instead of going through Boxer rescue? There are many boxers in rescue, especially with ears. -- shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette Gwen |
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shelly wrote: *likely*. they aren't as *likely* to accidentally get out of an apartment. most apartments--not all for sure!--do not have direct street access. there is usually an interior hallway or a courtyard. There is a BIG demographic difference then. Around here apartments rarely if ever have a hallway. Few if any have a courtyard. The doors do open directly to the roads and streets. I have lived in my share of apartments in Texas and none had either of the above. a part of it, absolutely. a substitute for home checks? i don't see anything to be gained by *not* doing home checks. So why did you obtain Harriet out of the newspaper instead of going through Boxer rescue? There are many boxers in rescue, especially with ears. -- shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette Gwen |
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shelly wrote: *likely*. they aren't as *likely* to accidentally get out of an apartment. most apartments--not all for sure!--do not have direct street access. there is usually an interior hallway or a courtyard. There is a BIG demographic difference then. Around here apartments rarely if ever have a hallway. Few if any have a courtyard. The doors do open directly to the roads and streets. I have lived in my share of apartments in Texas and none had either of the above. a part of it, absolutely. a substitute for home checks? i don't see anything to be gained by *not* doing home checks. So why did you obtain Harriet out of the newspaper instead of going through Boxer rescue? There are many boxers in rescue, especially with ears. -- shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette Gwen |
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Melinda Shore wrote: At any rate, both Duncan and Saber were acquired through rescue, although both were emergency situations and there was no home visit involved in either case (although they did call references, etc.). -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Is there anything so deadening to the soul as a PowerPoint presentation? -- NY Times, 29 Sept 2003 See? There you have it. And you are a perfect dog home. And Reznor didn't have a home check either. It is fairly easy to find out about a good dog person just by providing a list of trainers one has used as well. Also being members of clubs would indicate dog activity and desire to be involved, with references of people. I would hope there are circumstances in which a rescue could clearly tell the difference between the clueless and the saavy. Gwen |
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Melinda Shore wrote: At any rate, both Duncan and Saber were acquired through rescue, although both were emergency situations and there was no home visit involved in either case (although they did call references, etc.). -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Is there anything so deadening to the soul as a PowerPoint presentation? -- NY Times, 29 Sept 2003 See? There you have it. And you are a perfect dog home. And Reznor didn't have a home check either. It is fairly easy to find out about a good dog person just by providing a list of trainers one has used as well. Also being members of clubs would indicate dog activity and desire to be involved, with references of people. I would hope there are circumstances in which a rescue could clearly tell the difference between the clueless and the saavy. Gwen |
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Melinda Shore wrote: At any rate, both Duncan and Saber were acquired through rescue, although both were emergency situations and there was no home visit involved in either case (although they did call references, etc.). -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Is there anything so deadening to the soul as a PowerPoint presentation? -- NY Times, 29 Sept 2003 See? There you have it. And you are a perfect dog home. And Reznor didn't have a home check either. It is fairly easy to find out about a good dog person just by providing a list of trainers one has used as well. Also being members of clubs would indicate dog activity and desire to be involved, with references of people. I would hope there are circumstances in which a rescue could clearly tell the difference between the clueless and the saavy. Gwen |
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Gwen Watson wrote:
the best homes possible, then it's *always* going to be important to evaluate each individual a little differently. Actually that has been, from the get go, my precise point. I do take my dogs to the vet all the time. She does know me I do train with her, etc. i don't see how certain rescue groups requiring home visits maps to your contention that they have a double standard. My POV has been each individual case not some hardwired rules in place with little or no flexibility. rescue groups have a responsibility to find the best, permanent homes for their animals. there is no perfect, fool-proof way to ensure that a home is going to be a good match, but there are things they can do to stack the deck in the dog's favor. requiring a home check is one of those things. i *really, really* don't understand why you object so strenuously to it, especially considering you have no interest in ever getting a dog via rescue. Suja claims she looks in yards and if fence is broken, no dog. that's a no-brainer IMO. why would anyone in their right mind place a dog with someone whose fence is broken? Sally has stated that older GH's or injured can go to apartments. yes. Though she also said that dogs aren't likely to get out of the only door in an apartment onto a busy street and yet around here all apartments ARE situated on busy streets. So that doesn't seem to add up either. *likely*. they aren't as *likely* to accidentally get out of an apartment. most apartments--not all for sure!--do not have direct street access. there is usually an interior hallway or a courtyard. And not all houses are even near a busy street, like my home. no, they don't. did Sally say her group would not place a dog in such a home? I personally think it should be a individual case by case situation and heavy interviewing would be part of that. a part of it, absolutely. a substitute for home checks? i don't see anything to be gained by *not* doing home checks. -- shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette |
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Gwen Watson wrote:
the best homes possible, then it's *always* going to be important to evaluate each individual a little differently. Actually that has been, from the get go, my precise point. I do take my dogs to the vet all the time. She does know me I do train with her, etc. i don't see how certain rescue groups requiring home visits maps to your contention that they have a double standard. My POV has been each individual case not some hardwired rules in place with little or no flexibility. rescue groups have a responsibility to find the best, permanent homes for their animals. there is no perfect, fool-proof way to ensure that a home is going to be a good match, but there are things they can do to stack the deck in the dog's favor. requiring a home check is one of those things. i *really, really* don't understand why you object so strenuously to it, especially considering you have no interest in ever getting a dog via rescue. Suja claims she looks in yards and if fence is broken, no dog. that's a no-brainer IMO. why would anyone in their right mind place a dog with someone whose fence is broken? Sally has stated that older GH's or injured can go to apartments. yes. Though she also said that dogs aren't likely to get out of the only door in an apartment onto a busy street and yet around here all apartments ARE situated on busy streets. So that doesn't seem to add up either. *likely*. they aren't as *likely* to accidentally get out of an apartment. most apartments--not all for sure!--do not have direct street access. there is usually an interior hallway or a courtyard. And not all houses are even near a busy street, like my home. no, they don't. did Sally say her group would not place a dog in such a home? I personally think it should be a individual case by case situation and heavy interviewing would be part of that. a part of it, absolutely. a substitute for home checks? i don't see anything to be gained by *not* doing home checks. -- shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette |
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Gwen Watson wrote:
the best homes possible, then it's *always* going to be important to evaluate each individual a little differently. Actually that has been, from the get go, my precise point. I do take my dogs to the vet all the time. She does know me I do train with her, etc. i don't see how certain rescue groups requiring home visits maps to your contention that they have a double standard. My POV has been each individual case not some hardwired rules in place with little or no flexibility. rescue groups have a responsibility to find the best, permanent homes for their animals. there is no perfect, fool-proof way to ensure that a home is going to be a good match, but there are things they can do to stack the deck in the dog's favor. requiring a home check is one of those things. i *really, really* don't understand why you object so strenuously to it, especially considering you have no interest in ever getting a dog via rescue. Suja claims she looks in yards and if fence is broken, no dog. that's a no-brainer IMO. why would anyone in their right mind place a dog with someone whose fence is broken? Sally has stated that older GH's or injured can go to apartments. yes. Though she also said that dogs aren't likely to get out of the only door in an apartment onto a busy street and yet around here all apartments ARE situated on busy streets. So that doesn't seem to add up either. *likely*. they aren't as *likely* to accidentally get out of an apartment. most apartments--not all for sure!--do not have direct street access. there is usually an interior hallway or a courtyard. And not all houses are even near a busy street, like my home. no, they don't. did Sally say her group would not place a dog in such a home? I personally think it should be a individual case by case situation and heavy interviewing would be part of that. a part of it, absolutely. a substitute for home checks? i don't see anything to be gained by *not* doing home checks. -- shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette |
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Gwen Watson wrote: With so many dogs dying it sort of bugs me that some rescues don't realize that there are ppl like you and I out there. Which in turn, would likely turn those kind of people off from considering rescue. If that's what it took to get a dog I wanted from a rescue, I'd certainly allow someone into my house. The flip side of what you're saying is that those of us who want to provide homes for rescue dogs need to show some flexibility, too. At any rate, both Duncan and Saber were acquired through rescue, although both were emergency situations and there was no home visit involved in either case (although they did call references, etc.). -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Is there anything so deadening to the soul as a PowerPoint presentation? -- NY Times, 29 Sept 2003 |
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