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Bark Collar? Which one?
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Judith Althouse wrote: I don't think I ever thought of mushing as a silent sport but I guess if you are in the middle of nowhere and all is going well and all the dogs are working their very best it could be silent. "Silent sport" is usually used to refer to human-powered stuff, or at least non-motorized stuff, like cycling, x-c skiing, etc. Mushing has some really distinctive sounds - the sound of the runners on the snow, the dogs' feet on the snow, the sound of the tags jingling and the clips against metal rings, and, of course, the dogs breathing. Everything sounds clearer in cold weather, also. It's lovely. Which one of your dogs is the loudest? Jack. Hands down, Jack, although Saber's really loud, too. I also have been wondering if you have heard anything about the dogs that were injured during the races this year? Well, there's Lance Mackey's dog, Zorro, who was in the sled bag when he was rear-ended by a drunk on a skidoo. There are a lot of updates on him at http://www.mackeyscomebackkennel.com/, the most recent of which is this: Zorro has had enough of the foo-foo treatment and has opted for returning to his old dog house deep within the 90 plus sled dogs in the Mackey dog lot. The fur has grown back over the cracked ribs. There is only a hint of where the accident occurred in Zorro's hips, where he occasionally sits to rest them. Zorro has something new to brag about as he returns to his team mates in the dog lot. The Mackey's announced that Zorro is the proud pappa of 9 healthy puppies. Retirement is grand! And there are photos. As for Jen Freking's dog who was injured by a drunk on a skidoo (I sense a theme), she's posted this: Aries is doing very well and adjusting to life with three functional legs. He picked up a ball the other day and went for a 2-mile jog with me yesterday. Even with just three legs, he is still faster than I am. He has gone on free-run hikes frequently as a pup and occasionally since them and loves heading down the trail off leash, comes when called, and looks for his treats. Of course, we live in the middle of nowhere with no distractions, so this isn't something I would do in a more populated area. Aries has been examined by at least 28 veterinarians and specialists since the accident, and many more have been consulted. All have agreed that he is not likely to regain function in the limb, even with the best medical treatment available. He still has no sensation, no deep pain response, or movement in his front left leg at all. At this point would be miraculous if any healing occurred that resulted in sensation returning to the limb. Regardless, he is getting daily massage, range of motion (ROM) exercises, and physical therapy to maintain the limb as well as possible and in hopes of helping him regain function. Although Aries life as a racing sled dog is over, he has a bright future as my sister "webmaster" Cindy's new companion. We will give him plenty of time and therapy in hopes of saving his limb, but most likely it will be amputated. Thankfully, he is a sweet and happy dog and will certainly adjust to his new life quickly. My sister and husband are just graduating from medical school and will soon be moving to a beautiful hobby farm in Michigan as they begin their residencies. He will be in good hands and be a great jogging buddy for Cindy! http://www.racingsiberians.com/Journal/index.html -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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Bark Collar? Which one?
"ceb" wrote in message ... "Beth In Alaska" wrote in mmunications: Its too late now (I hope never to have such a happy barker ever again, its very embarassing on walks) but what would you do with a happy-barker!?! I taught Queenie to "speak" -- she's the only one of my 3 that will do it on cue. She also, comically, hushes up when I put my hands over my ears and make a pained expression. Kavik could both bark and no bark on command! but that didn't mean stopping barking for long! And sometimes I just bark loudly back at her until we both get it out of our systems. But I only do that in the house. Maybe we should have tried this but I wonder how long it would take a kavik dog to get all teh barking out of his system!! |
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Bark Collar? Which one?
"ChrisJ" wrote in message ... Beth In Alaska wrote: "ChrisJ" wrote in message ... Collies don't tend to bark because of aggression (Lucy is an exception), instead they bark at moving objects (BIKES!), to alert others about the EVIL moving object, when playing, lonely or to express happiness. The first two are the bad ones, the last three reasons are easily fixed or managed. Snipped very amusing collie chat post. Chris, Kavik was a happy barker. I was never able to really "fix" it. We battled over happy barking (demanding happy barking, actually, I'm happy, and you aren't paying enough attention to me barking) just about every morning. Its too late now (I hope never to have such a happy barker ever again, its very embarassing on walks) but what would you do with a happy-barker!?! Hi Beth, That is a very good question and a real dilemma. I do think for some collies, Happy & Barking are so intertwined that trying to diminish barking means one is constantly scolding or correcting a collie for being happy. That sucks all around. This is what we ended up with!!! And it did suck. I wish I had just debarked him when he was young and he could have been as happy as he wished. This is especially a problem for a older dog with an deeply ingrained happy barking problem. I wonder if there is some sort of serotonin feedback loop going on because training it out of them is darn near impossible (OK - yes a talented trainer could do it but for the average joe adopter with crappy timing it is). This is one of the biggest problems with some rescue collies - if they have a serious barking problem, no one wants them. If started young, a collie can be conditioned/trained, actually quite easily, to break the connection between happy & barking and can learn to be quietly happy. I know a lot of people are strongly opposed to debarking but in the case of an older collie with a deeply ingrained happy-barking problem, I see it as a good solution. Debarking doesn't prevent a dog from barking - the barks are just not as loud or sharp (they tend to sound a bit raspy). Dogs don't care what they sound like. The debarking is done by the vet (via the mouth) nicking the vocal cords with a scalpel. Yep - lots and lots of sammy people debark. All of them would listen to kaviks bark - which was especially shrill and high pitched and say "Why didn't you debark him?" while holding their hands over his ears. Including his breeder who came to visit him once as an adult and when he barked his shrill yapping she said "Did I breed THAT NOISE??" and when I said yes, she apologized profusely. I knew one lady, Diane, who adopted a hard luck senior collie (Corky - estimated age of 10) who had spent his entire life as an outside dog tied to a dog house. Corky was absolutely thrilled with his new life and wanted to tell everyone about it. Diane's neighbors, however, were not happy about Corky's barking and frankly it was driving Diane a bit nuts as well. She tried all the typical first step methods (spray bottle, putting him away when he barked, startle/redirection), some electronic methods (Bark Solver, citronella collar, shock bark collar). She said she felt sick about it - poor Corky didn't understand that, from his point of view, he was being punished for being happy. Diane had been against debarking and thought it was cruel to take away a dog's bark. Finally in desperation, Diane had Corky debarked and after she saw how happy Corky was - finally being allowed to bark his happy fool head off without being corrected & scolded all the time - she said she wished she had done it earlier. Sorry for going off on a tangent. Now what Kavik was doing - barking in the morning, during walks or demand barking - I have to say I've been able to shape my collies away from much of that kind of behavior. Collies are not much into demand barking or barking on walks, thank goD. I think it might help that I while I'm strict with barking, I do allow the collies to talk. They can mutter, grumble, whine, woo-woo as long as they do not bark. Trying to stop all noise making is like trying to cork a volcano. Sooner or later - the collie & the volcano is going to erupt (and in the collie's case - you'll get stealth barking). Barking on walks was sheer joy for kavik - after the first half mile or so he'd quit. The first half mile he'd hop backwards pulling the leash in his mouth and barking with joy. Every time. Was funny as hell but I'll bet the neighbors didn't think so. |
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Melinda said in part...
"Silent Sport" is usually used to refer to human powered stuff, or at least non motorized stuff............Mushing has some really distintictive sounds - the sound of the runners on the snow, the dog's feet on the snow, the sound of the tags jingling and the clips against metal rings, and, of course the dogs breathing. Everything sounds clearer in cold weather, also, it's lovely. _____________________________ Melinda, That is a beautiful description, it is almost like being out there. I do recall trekking thru the woods with my dogs in the U.P. (of Mi) the crunch of the snow was so sharp and clear. The only other sound was me breathing (loudly). Buck and Lady used to love to romp in the snow. ______________________ Which one of your dog's is the loudest? _____________________________ Melinda said... Jack, Hands down, Jack, although Saber's really loud too. __________________________ I think I knew that, just as I suspected your plan for Jack was to be the lead dog. If that works as planned will it be a smooth transition or will the current lead dog resist or harbor resentment? I am interested and I am enjoying thinking about snow and cold weather, it is frigging HOT! __________________________ Thanks for all of the info about Lance Mackey's dog Zorro and Jennifer Freking's dog Aries. I read everything. I am not surprised that Zorro has pups or that he has returned to the dog yards. I hope that speaks to his recovery. I really didn't picture him lounging around the house very long unless he truly was disabled. I had no idea that Lance Mackey was in such demand as a public speaker. Is it because he is Lance Mackey or does he truly have a gift for story telling? Wow, Aries has been seen by 28 Vets....that is impressive. My thought was that Aries would be better with the leg removed. No one can say they didn't give it their best try. Freking is a Vet herself isn't she? I guess Aries is the flip side of the coin. He seems to be content to become a pet and a member of Jen's sister's family. Didn't the idiot that crashed into Mackey and Zorro offer to pay for expenses or some such? The 100,000 Question on Millionaire yesterday was "What disease was Balto and his mushing team racing to provide serum for? (well something like that)....I knew it....I knew it!!!! Thanks for the updates. I am going to be on the look out for Zorro's pups and will be interested to know if any of them become successful as sled dogs. Be Free.....Judy |
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Judith Althouse wrote: I think I knew that, just as I suspected your plan for Jack was to be the lead dog. If that works as planned will it be a smooth transition or will the current lead dog resist or harbor resentment? I am interested and I am enjoying thinking about snow and cold weather, it is frigging HOT! Here, too, but it feels like summer is winding down a bit. A lead dog is born a little different - something in them wants to be in front, and they have a little (sometimes a lot!) more confidence and the other dogs trust their judgment. There's a lot more to it than knowing gee and haw, and actually a lot of very good leaders have terrible steering but will get their team down the trail or through a blizzard. I hope Jack will become a good lead dog although I don't know that he will. So far it's looking good. A lead dog doesn't like to be moved back in the team, and sometimes when a dog is being kind of a jerk, moving them back for a bit will take the wind out of their sails and straighten them out. Image *hates* hates hates not being in charge. Crow is better about running somewhere else on the team, and Eclipse will happily run anywhere (she's got a great work ethic). I am not surprised that Zorro has pups or that he has returned to the dog yards. I hope that speaks to his recovery. I think it does. The dogs live in a pack and that's what they know and are comfortable with, and so that's where Zorro wants to be. Mackey is a real hard-luck story and now that he's finally an incredible success he's milking that for all it's worth, including selling dogs and selling stud services. I had no idea that Lance Mackey was in such demand as a public speaker. Is it because he is Lance Mackey or does he truly have a gift for story telling? He's an incredibly charismatic guy and very, very open and emotional. He loves his dogs and is excited by mushing, and he's got an absolutely unbelievable story. So he'll go and spend a day at some rinky-dink dogsled fair and signs hundreds of autographs and has hundreds of pictures taken with strangers, and he's as upbeat and happy to meet people at the end of the day as he is at the start. Really, if you have a chance to go hear him speak don't miss it. Wow, Aries has been seen by 28 Vets....that is impressive. My thought was that Aries would be better with the leg removed. No one can say they didn't give it their best try. Freking is a Vet herself isn't she? She is. Didn't the idiot that crashed into Mackey and Zorro offer to pay for expenses or some such? Yes, but I'm not sure how it was settled. In both of those cases as far as I know the musher declined to press charges and settled it personally. Thanks for the updates. I am going to be on the look out for Zorro's pups and will be interested to know if any of them become successful as sled dogs. Some of them are already, on Mackey's team. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:37:33 GMT, "Tom Ginkel"
wrote: I have a French bulldog that is a very good dog, but often goes to the fence and barks excessively. A little barking is good, but I don't want to alienate the neighbors with constant yapping. Will an anti-bark collar help? She is very trainable and remembers unpleasant consequences very well. Thanks for any help. Tom I use a citronella spray collar on my doxie. It's extremely effective and humane. It helps a ton with safety issues, too, since he'll try to bolt into the street after a passing dog or person unless he's wearing the collar. |
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Mason Barge said in
rec.pets.dogs.breeds: I use a citronella spray collar on my doxie. It's extremely effective and humane. How is it humane? The smell lingers - there's no defined end to the pushment that the collar provides. It helps a ton with safety issues, too, since he'll try to bolt into the street after a passing dog or person unless he's wearing the collar. Why do you think that happens? -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
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"Mason Barge" wrote in message
... The post you're replying to is three months old, and the person asking for advice never bothered to follow up, so it's extremely unlikely that he'll ever see your response. I use a citronella spray collar on my doxie. It's extremely effective and humane. How, exactly, do you figure that? It helps a ton with safety issues, too, since he'll try to bolt into the street after a passing dog or person unless he's wearing the collar. Have you considered training your dog? Or, at the very least, putting him on a leash? -- Shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) |
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Bark collars don't really work. I used a shock collar on my dog (I don't
think they had citronella yet) and it only band aided the problem. Some dogs just bark. You have to find out why the dog is barking and then turn the behaviour around (ya I know I couldn't be more vague but you get the idea). Also if you have a terrier (named because these dogs are so persistant that they will chase animals under ground) then you are trying to shut off the dog's natural behaviour. "Rocky" wrote in message ... Mason Barge said in rec.pets.dogs.breeds: I use a citronella spray collar on my doxie. It's extremely effective and humane. How is it humane? The smell lingers - there's no defined end to the pushment that the collar provides. It helps a ton with safety issues, too, since he'll try to bolt into the street after a passing dog or person unless he's wearing the collar. Why do you think that happens? -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
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