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Shelter Dogs
J1Boss wrote: Sarah wrote: None of my dogs will harm a human being, but if you tormented them by repeatedly poking them with a plastic hand on a stick while they're trying to eat, they might very well eventually snap at it. When you adopted your guys, we weren't doing TT. We do now. We use the Assess-a-hand. Tormenting is hardly the description of what is done (we use a different test altogher, but do employ use of the A-A-H). The dogs who fail generally do som BIG time. that's wonderful Janet Dog Murderer Boss. I bet you feel a swell of righteousness each time you murder a dog who bit the big plastic Cat in the Hat hand. The Cat in the Hat hand that Sue Sternberg taught you how to use to justify murdering dogs that you get paid to murder by the STATE and by private contributions from SUCKER animal lovers. BWHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAAAAA!!! you're a dog exterminator Janet Boss, in addition to being an incompetent dog trainer. rpdb heelper Janet Boss Best Friends Dog Obedience "Nice Manners for the Family Pet" Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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Tricia9999 wrote: I don't think anyone is pinning "all this" on Sue. We happen to be discussing a movie that features her. This could become a wider discussion about temperament testing in general, but up til now it hasn't We draw the line at different places, not a fixed point, but the first thing we have to know is who are adopters are, what they have the capacity to deal with, what they want in a dog. We put dogs up for adoption that require more skill and committement and we offer them free consultations and we talk with them every month for 6 months following the adoption. This is the minumum - we often get more involved. cut the bullshit. It's your job to eliminate dogs. If you were truly worried about public safety, you'd be taking automobiles off the road instead of murdering dogs for hire. For every child and youth 0-19 killed by a dog, thousands are killed by cars. You are murdering dogs because you are getting paid to murder dogs, not because you are doing society any favors by keeping us all safe from dogs... BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! for every child killed by a dog, hundreds are killed by their own mother. BWHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!! I wonder if Sue Sternberg, World Class Dog Murderer, is being paid by HBO for her movie role where she plays a real life dog murderer. Might as well have as many income sources as possible. rpdb heelper |
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Handsome "Jack" Morrison wrote: There's little about rescue work that isn't "extremely distasteful." How long exactly have you been involved in rescue, anyway, Mel? what's distasteful about rescuing dogs? The only thing that's distasteful us murdering dogs in the name of rescue. Because you're lying to yourself and to the public. We can't improve the situation if everyone is lying. Well, someone has to make "value judgments" almost every week, judgements that he/she will always find "extremely distasteful." But they still must be made. Nobody "has" to murder dogs. People do it because they get paid to do it, or because they volunteer to for dog murdering duty. Stop complaining that society is forcing you to murder dogs. We're not buying it. If you don't like murdering dogs, than stop freaking doing it. Because there AREN'T ENOUGH ROOMS AT THE FREAKING INN! THEN STOP CALLING IT A FREAKING INN and call it a CONCENTRATION CAMP if it's NOT REALLY A FREAKING INN. This gets us back to the systematic lying inherent in our national dog murdering schema, made up of hard working people like you. I understand the concept of triage. But I don't believe that being free of behavioral issues (most of them, I might add, human-caused) makes a dog more inherently valuable or worthy of living than another dog. It's not a matter of worth. It's a matter of SPACE! If there were enough rooms, there would never be a need to KILL the vast majority of dogs that are currently being KILLED in shelters across the country. there's an ENORMOUS amount of space in this country. That's not why dogs are being killed. They are being killed because people and organizations like the ASPCA are being paid to kill dogs by the STATE and by private contribution from SUCKER ANIMAL lovers who contribute. As long as stray or abandoned or unwanted dogs are going to be rounded up and brought to shelters (which is one reason why I always recommend against doing that, well there's a start.... But until you're working in rescue yourself, and are actually faced with making decisions like this, you couldn't possibly get it. "rescue" has nothing to do with murdering dogs. Therein lies the source of your frustration and internal conflict. The truth will set you free. Start saying you are in "dog rescue and destruction" and you won't be lying to yoruself and others. thank you so much rpdb heelper |
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Tee wrote: But Sarah, the majority of people who go to animal shelters looking to adopt aren't people like you, me, who the **** are you comparing yourself to? Sara wouldn't have murdered Summer. She might have bit her on the ear, but she wouldn't have murdered her. You murdered your own dog Summer who was easily trainable, and then you had the nerve to post links here to the wonderful success you had with her Separation Anxiety. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!! Of course you are going to be an apologist for the Stalin of American Canines, Sue Sternberg. You're a ****ing dog murderer. Join the club. You gotta lotta company around here. hope that heelps. rpdb heelper Diane B. or any other dog enthusiast. They are your run-of-the-mill family with small kids, no basic training knowledge, ideas like rub-his-nose-in-it & hit-him-with-a-newspaper, intentions to let the dog inside only as long as its "good" (read that as doesn't chew, is housebroken, doesn't shed overly much), and will provide amusement for the kids. That's the generic, widespread mindset of shelter adopters. Since that's the case (I have no data to cite, only what I know from the shelters I've worked with), it certainly does make sense to pander to the desires of these types of homes because the likelihood of the dog/adopter making a lifetime success of the adoption is higher. Sure there are people looking for a dog who needs work, a dog who is misunderstood, a dog who may have good agility qualities, etc. but they're not the majority. |
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Tee wrote: It may just be. I sincerely hope this is a reputable trainer with some known experience/background. I am very wary of "boot camps" for dogs, particularly for simply untrained dogs vs. dogs with serious behavioral problems. I know of several dogs who went off to boot camps and were never again the same. The joy, the life, the adolescence, seemed to go right out of them during that time. They were extremely obedient, don't get me wrong, but they were like robots. I know that all boot camps are not disreputable or do not use harsh physical methods but there are some who definitely do and those are the ones that worry me. Now I know of one dog who went off to a 6 week camp and returned just fine, knew all her commands, cept she wouldn't comply with the owner very often. She learned to obey the people who taught her rather than her owners. I know of a dog named Summer. She went to an owner named Tara O. who murdered her instead of sending her to a boot camp. Or instead of dealing with very simple behavior problems with a method besides murdering. I also know of Tara O, Summer's owner, who recently posted links about her supposed success dealing with Summer's Separation Anxiety, neglecting to mention that soon after the supposed "success" with SA, she murdered Summer. BWHAHAHAHHAHHAAAAAAA!!!! I know of a dog named Summer. She's dead now, another victim of a dog "rescuer." -- michael the rpdb heelping hand of wisdom and reason |
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