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What about border collies in schtzhund?
Border collies are known for been most inteligent working of all
breeds.They are best herding dog, a war dog, a sled dog, a therapy and assistance dog, a competitive sports dog, a search and rescue dog, a hunting dog and, always, a companion dog. But what about schtzhund have there been any border collies in this kind of competiton? Andrea http://www.youwager.com |
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Andrea said in rec.pets.dogs.activities:
Border collies are known for been most inteligent working of all breeds.They are best herding dog, a war dog, a sled dog, a therapy and assistance dog, a competitive sports dog, a search and rescue dog, a hunting dog and, always, a companion dog. But what about schtzhund have there been any border collies in this kind of competiton? In _Shutzhund: Theory and Training Methods_, the authors list the more common Schutzhund breeds and then point out a few other dogs that shouldn't be overlooked. Sorry - a Border Collie isn't one of them, but an Australian Shepherd is. -- --Matt. Rocky's a TT Dog. |
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But what about schtzhund
have there been any border collies in this kind of competiton? There have been some border collies that have done schutzhund. There is no reason why one couldn't be successful with the right trainers. |
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Andrea wrote: Border collies are known for been most inteligent working of all breeds.They are best herding dog, a war dog, a sled dog, a therapy and assistance dog, a competitive sports dog, a search and rescue dog, a hunting dog and, always, a companion dog. But what about schtzhund have there been any border collies in this kind of competiton? Yes, some BCs have done schutzhund and I think there is at least one SchH 3 BC. However, I don't see schutzhund being a good or natural fit for the BC. It can capitalize on prey drive, but especially in the wrong hands would make an already nervy dog (and most BCs are pretty nervy) into a biting mess. |
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Robin Nuttall wrote in message news:5EaJc.53728$WX.51742@attbi_s51...
Andrea wrote: Border collies are known for been most inteligent working of all breeds.They are best herding dog, a war dog, a sled dog, a therapy and assistance dog, a competitive sports dog, a search and rescue dog, a hunting dog and, always, a companion dog. But what about schtzhund have there been any border collies in this kind of competiton? Yes, some BCs have done schutzhund and I think there is at least one SchH 3 BC. However, I don't see schutzhund being a good or natural fit for the BC. It can capitalize on prey drive, but especially in the wrong hands would make an already nervy dog (and most BCs are pretty nervy) into a biting mess. I now its not a natural thing for border collies but I've practice the sport with German Sherpherds and for me is difficult to handle a big dog. On the other hand I love border collies, I have a female BC but she's in obedience and agility and she's nervous, she would never do schutzhund! So now I'm thinking in gettin a male but I would preffer one that can practice that sport. Do you think is possible for me to contact a breeder with BC with those characteristics? Andrea http://www.youwager.com |
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Andrea wrote: Robin Nuttall wrote in message news:5EaJc.53728$WX.51742@attbi_s51... I now its not a natural thing for border collies but I've practice the sport with German Sherpherds and for me is difficult to handle a big dog. On the other hand I love border collies, I have a female BC but she's in obedience and agility and she's nervous, she would never do schutzhund! So now I'm thinking in gettin a male but I would preffer one that can practice that sport. Do you think is possible for me to contact a breeder with BC with those characteristics? Yeah, on a cold day in hell. At least in the U.S., most people are fundamentally ignorant about schutzhund, and if they know it's anything at all, it's "ooooo! That teaches dogs to BITE!!" If you really want to do it, I'd try finding out who is currently doing it with BCs and talk to them. |
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There have been some border collies that have done schutzhund. There is no
reason why one couldn't be successful with the right trainers. Well... maybe the right trainers and the right dog. I know my trainer wont let me use a dog thats not qualified for the sport. Because temperament, agressiveness, sociability the grip etc have do be natural in the dog. So I just need to find THAT one. Andrea http://www.youwager.com |
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How did you know a Australian Shepherd would be good chice to
schtzhund? because I know they are a versatile breed and hard workers , but as border collies I havent heard of them in this sport. Andrea http://www.youwager.com |
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On 16 Jul 2004 11:27:21 -0700 Andrea whittled these words:
There have been some border collies that have done schutzhund. There is no reason why one couldn't be successful with the right trainers. Well... maybe the right trainers and the right dog. I know my trainer wont let me use a dog thats not qualified for the sport. Because temperament, agressiveness, sociability the grip etc have do be natural in the dog. So I just need to find THAT one. Of course I've got the impression you already know this but any border collie that has a natural grip of the schutzhund kind would be decidedly unusual. Its one thing they have been selectively bred against. Biting is sometimes necessary for stock control, but hanging on is a shooting offence according to some. Breeds designed to work cattle will have a little more force and a little more grip. Yes, plenty of Border Collies work cattle, but when you move to the spectrum of the more tough minded cattle it is very controversial. The Australian Shepherd was bred for different conditions. Closer quarters, a ranch dog as opposed to a range dog. And because of the different conditions the Australian Shepherd was expected to be protective of stock trucks, trailers, and of course home. Aggressiveness to humans was not only more tolerated in the Australian Shepherd but encouraged by some. Not so in the Border Collie, for the most part. Not everyone buys the party line. -- Diane Blackman http://dog-play.com/ http://dogplay.com/Shop/ |
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