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Kidney Problems - Need Information
There is a thread about kidney issues that may be helpful at
http://Bichon.ca/ Community message forum. http://bichon.ca/cgi-bin/bichon/bich...num=1055367904 On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:06:14 -0500, Dreamspinner3 wrote: My name is Kim and my senior Welsh terrier Kirby apparently has something wrong with his kidneys. Over he course of the last few months his water intake has increased and he's had to pee a lot more often, having accidents in the house. I adopted Kirby from a local rescue group back in 1997 and they told us he was a stray they saved from the local dog pound. At the time they thought Kirby was 3 to 5 years old, so he is probably anywhere from 9 to 11 years old now. He looks to be in excellent shape and his appetite has remained normal. He isn't as active as he was six years ago but that isn't surprising, is it? He does still like to play with my two Schnauzers, although not for as long as when he was younger. Within the last year he's lost 4 pounds but we were trying to get his weight down by feeding him Nutromax lite dog food; he went from 34 pounds a little over a year ago to 30 pounds at the vet yesterday. Does anyone have any advice or suggestions to help me? Thanks. ------ Kim (Dreamspinner3) Homepage: http://members.tripod.com/dreamspinner3/ ICQ: 48547727 Yahoo: dreamspinner3 AIM: coolkmm |
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There is a thread about kidney issues that may be helpful at
http://Bichon.ca/ Community message forum. http://bichon.ca/cgi-bin/bichon/bich...num=1055367904 On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:06:14 -0500, Dreamspinner3 wrote: My name is Kim and my senior Welsh terrier Kirby apparently has something wrong with his kidneys. Over he course of the last few months his water intake has increased and he's had to pee a lot more often, having accidents in the house. I adopted Kirby from a local rescue group back in 1997 and they told us he was a stray they saved from the local dog pound. At the time they thought Kirby was 3 to 5 years old, so he is probably anywhere from 9 to 11 years old now. He looks to be in excellent shape and his appetite has remained normal. He isn't as active as he was six years ago but that isn't surprising, is it? He does still like to play with my two Schnauzers, although not for as long as when he was younger. Within the last year he's lost 4 pounds but we were trying to get his weight down by feeding him Nutromax lite dog food; he went from 34 pounds a little over a year ago to 30 pounds at the vet yesterday. Does anyone have any advice or suggestions to help me? Thanks. ------ Kim (Dreamspinner3) Homepage: http://members.tripod.com/dreamspinner3/ ICQ: 48547727 Yahoo: dreamspinner3 AIM: coolkmm |
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"Dreamspinner3" wrote in message ... My name is Kim and my senior Welsh terrier Kirby apparently has something wrong with his kidneys. .............I hope you continue a discussion with Hillary in alt.med.vet, as I really don't think your dog has a kidney problem. I would insist on a test for Cushings myself, although some people on a list I'm on are reporting negative Cushings test results, but the the dog still has symptoms. Go have a discussion with your vet and ask why the BUN and Creatinine are perfectly normal so why does she think it's kidneys. Was the urinalysis a first catch? buglady take out the dog before replying |
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"Dreamspinner3" wrote in message ... My name is Kim and my senior Welsh terrier Kirby apparently has something wrong with his kidneys. .............I hope you continue a discussion with Hillary in alt.med.vet, as I really don't think your dog has a kidney problem. I would insist on a test for Cushings myself, although some people on a list I'm on are reporting negative Cushings test results, but the the dog still has symptoms. Go have a discussion with your vet and ask why the BUN and Creatinine are perfectly normal so why does she think it's kidneys. Was the urinalysis a first catch? buglady take out the dog before replying |
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Hi Kim,
I think it's a good starting point. I lost my first lab to kidney disease. Make sure you check out the k9kidney group. You don't have to join to read, but you do have to join to post or look in the files. There is a ton of info in the files and almost 750 members to get moral support and ideas from, although we don't all post! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9KIDNEYS/ As a matter of fact, there was just a posting ( message number 44899) from the text files - My dog was just diagnosed, what do I do now? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9KIDNEYS/message/44899 Sue and Atty "Dreamspinner3" wrote in message ... My name is Kim and my senior Welsh terrier Kirby apparently has something wrong with his kidneys. Over he course of the last few months his water intake has increased and he's had to pee a lot more often, having accidents in the house. I adopted Kirby from a local rescue group back in 1997 and they told us he was a stray they saved from the local dog pound. At the time they thought Kirby was 3 to 5 years old, so he is probably anywhere from 9 to 11 years old now. He looks to be in excellent shape and his appetite has remained normal. He isn't as active as he was six years ago but that isn't surprising, is it? He does still like to play with my two Schnauzers, although not for as long as when he was younger. Within the last year he's lost 4 pounds but we were trying to get his weight down by feeding him Nutromax lite dog food; he went from 34 pounds a little over a year ago to 30 pounds at the vet yesterday. His test results are as follows: The sample is slightly hemolyzed. Slight hemolysis interferes with certain serum Chemistry results. Bilirubin, Total Protein, Creatinine, SDH, and LDH may be falsely increased. T4 and Alkaline phosphatase results maybe falsely decreased. Glucose 113 mg/dl (67-125) AST (GOT) 32 U/L (10-45) ALT (GPT) 42 U/L (15-84) H Alk Ptase 294 U/L (9-140) (My vet said this value was very high but not unusual for an older dog.) Total Bilirubin 0.1 mg/dL (0.0-0.4) Cholesterol 195 mg/dL (114-330) Total Protein 6.5 g/dL (5.2-7.8) Albumin 2.7 g/dL (2.7-4.4) Urea N 9 mg/dL (9-27) Creatinine 0.7 mg/dL (0.7-1.5) L Phosphorous 2.4 mg/dL (2.6-6.8) Calcium 10.0 mg/dL (9.2-12.1) Sodium 149 mmol/L (140-153) Potassium 4.4 mmol/L (3.6-5.2) Chloride 115 mmol/L (106-118) Bicarbonate 18 mmol/L (17-26) Anion Gap 20 mmol/L (15-25) GGT 3 U/L (0-13) T4-VET 1.7 ug/dL (1.0-4.7) Urinalysis Results Color: Yellow Glucose 0 Ketones 0 pH 9 Appearance Clear Spec Grav 1.008 (My vet said this shows his urine is very dilute & that the kidneys are not able to concentrate his urine.) Protein 0 Bile 0 Urobilinogen 0 Blood 0 WBC 000 No crystals I live in Minnesota & am currently taking my dogs to Camden Pet Hospital. The vet told me to feed Kirby Hills Canine K/D and to come back in a month to check his weight again and to more tests. Does anyone have any advice or suggestions to help me? Thanks. ------ Kim (Dreamspinner3) Homepage: http://members.tripod.com/dreamspinner3/ ICQ: 48547727 Yahoo: dreamspinner3 AIM: coolkmm |
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Hi Kim,
I think it's a good starting point. I lost my first lab to kidney disease. Make sure you check out the k9kidney group. You don't have to join to read, but you do have to join to post or look in the files. There is a ton of info in the files and almost 750 members to get moral support and ideas from, although we don't all post! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9KIDNEYS/ As a matter of fact, there was just a posting ( message number 44899) from the text files - My dog was just diagnosed, what do I do now? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9KIDNEYS/message/44899 Sue and Atty "Dreamspinner3" wrote in message ... My name is Kim and my senior Welsh terrier Kirby apparently has something wrong with his kidneys. Over he course of the last few months his water intake has increased and he's had to pee a lot more often, having accidents in the house. I adopted Kirby from a local rescue group back in 1997 and they told us he was a stray they saved from the local dog pound. At the time they thought Kirby was 3 to 5 years old, so he is probably anywhere from 9 to 11 years old now. He looks to be in excellent shape and his appetite has remained normal. He isn't as active as he was six years ago but that isn't surprising, is it? He does still like to play with my two Schnauzers, although not for as long as when he was younger. Within the last year he's lost 4 pounds but we were trying to get his weight down by feeding him Nutromax lite dog food; he went from 34 pounds a little over a year ago to 30 pounds at the vet yesterday. His test results are as follows: The sample is slightly hemolyzed. Slight hemolysis interferes with certain serum Chemistry results. Bilirubin, Total Protein, Creatinine, SDH, and LDH may be falsely increased. T4 and Alkaline phosphatase results maybe falsely decreased. Glucose 113 mg/dl (67-125) AST (GOT) 32 U/L (10-45) ALT (GPT) 42 U/L (15-84) H Alk Ptase 294 U/L (9-140) (My vet said this value was very high but not unusual for an older dog.) Total Bilirubin 0.1 mg/dL (0.0-0.4) Cholesterol 195 mg/dL (114-330) Total Protein 6.5 g/dL (5.2-7.8) Albumin 2.7 g/dL (2.7-4.4) Urea N 9 mg/dL (9-27) Creatinine 0.7 mg/dL (0.7-1.5) L Phosphorous 2.4 mg/dL (2.6-6.8) Calcium 10.0 mg/dL (9.2-12.1) Sodium 149 mmol/L (140-153) Potassium 4.4 mmol/L (3.6-5.2) Chloride 115 mmol/L (106-118) Bicarbonate 18 mmol/L (17-26) Anion Gap 20 mmol/L (15-25) GGT 3 U/L (0-13) T4-VET 1.7 ug/dL (1.0-4.7) Urinalysis Results Color: Yellow Glucose 0 Ketones 0 pH 9 Appearance Clear Spec Grav 1.008 (My vet said this shows his urine is very dilute & that the kidneys are not able to concentrate his urine.) Protein 0 Bile 0 Urobilinogen 0 Blood 0 WBC 000 No crystals I live in Minnesota & am currently taking my dogs to Camden Pet Hospital. The vet told me to feed Kirby Hills Canine K/D and to come back in a month to check his weight again and to more tests. Does anyone have any advice or suggestions to help me? Thanks. ------ Kim (Dreamspinner3) Homepage: http://members.tripod.com/dreamspinner3/ ICQ: 48547727 Yahoo: dreamspinner3 AIM: coolkmm |
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"buglady" wrote in message thlink.net... "Dreamspinner3" wrote in message ... My name is Kim and my senior Welsh terrier Kirby apparently has something wrong with his kidneys. ............I hope you continue a discussion with Hillary in alt.med.vet, as I really don't think your dog has a kidney problem. I would insist on a test for Cushings myself, although some people on a list I'm on are reporting negative Cushings test results, but the the dog still has symptoms. Go have a discussion with your vet and ask why the BUN and Creatinine are perfectly normal so why does she think it's kidneys. Was the urinalysis a first catch? buglady take out the dog before replying buglady, Your post made me go back and look again - of course after I already hit send on mine! Not only are they normal, but they are at the low end of normal. You're right, that is odd. Where were my eyes when I looked the first time? Can I blame it on no coffee? Sue and Atty |
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"buglady" wrote in message thlink.net... "Dreamspinner3" wrote in message ... My name is Kim and my senior Welsh terrier Kirby apparently has something wrong with his kidneys. ............I hope you continue a discussion with Hillary in alt.med.vet, as I really don't think your dog has a kidney problem. I would insist on a test for Cushings myself, although some people on a list I'm on are reporting negative Cushings test results, but the the dog still has symptoms. Go have a discussion with your vet and ask why the BUN and Creatinine are perfectly normal so why does she think it's kidneys. Was the urinalysis a first catch? buglady take out the dog before replying buglady, Your post made me go back and look again - of course after I already hit send on mine! Not only are they normal, but they are at the low end of normal. You're right, that is odd. Where were my eyes when I looked the first time? Can I blame it on no coffee? Sue and Atty |
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"Sue and Atty" wrote in message
... buglady, Your post made me go back and look again - of course after I already hit send on mine! Not only are they normal, but they are at the low end of normal. You're right, that is odd. Where were my eyes when I looked the first time? Can I blame it on no coffee? ......Heh! Well, since this is the second time I read it, I had a fighting chance! Replies from vets in alt.med.vet are interesting. Guess it still could be a kidney problem according to some, but Dreamspinners vet's thinking bothers me. To Dreamspinner - join the Cushings's list now and post to see what people say about the initial lab work and resulting test results when you get them. I don't have url handy but the Cushings thingey in the pet library at Marvistavet has it. Good idea to join K9kidney too - never know what will happen and at least you'll be armed with facts whatever happens. And as for your vet, if she has not treated much Cushings before, quite frankly I'd find another one who has. I think experience counts for a _whole_ lot when dealing with endocrine problems. buglady take out the dog before replying |
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"Sue and Atty" wrote in message
... buglady, Your post made me go back and look again - of course after I already hit send on mine! Not only are they normal, but they are at the low end of normal. You're right, that is odd. Where were my eyes when I looked the first time? Can I blame it on no coffee? ......Heh! Well, since this is the second time I read it, I had a fighting chance! Replies from vets in alt.med.vet are interesting. Guess it still could be a kidney problem according to some, but Dreamspinners vet's thinking bothers me. To Dreamspinner - join the Cushings's list now and post to see what people say about the initial lab work and resulting test results when you get them. I don't have url handy but the Cushings thingey in the pet library at Marvistavet has it. Good idea to join K9kidney too - never know what will happen and at least you'll be armed with facts whatever happens. And as for your vet, if she has not treated much Cushings before, quite frankly I'd find another one who has. I think experience counts for a _whole_ lot when dealing with endocrine problems. buglady take out the dog before replying |
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