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Old February 26th 04, 02:00 AM
Al Clark
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Default aggression issue?

I have had a border collie mix, (maybe Scotty like the breeder said but I
don't see anything but border collie) since early November, he was born Sept
3 so he's almost 6 mos. Anyway, he has been taking to training pretty well
so far, sit, stay, lie down, come, shake, housebroken, rings a bell to go
out, and sleeps and rests in his cage. He has been very friendly with the
adults we meet on walks so far and with my 8 year old daughter who feeds and
plays with him. Today however, he started barking at the kids playing while
we were walking past, and the mother of a 3 yr. old came out and asked if
the child could pet him, I said he has been very good till now, but as the
child got closer (she was crying to pet him when we first saw her and was
still making a racket while reaching out) but my pup got very aggressive and
the fur on his neck was standing up while he was barking and even tried
nipping the girl. He was fine with the mom, just sniffed her, but the way he
acted with the child has me worried, any advise would be appreciated. I'm
gonna get him neutered as soon as possible hoping this may calm him a bit.

Al


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Old February 26th 04, 03:25 AM
Perry
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I have one dog who is almost 10 years old. She is as calm as she can be in
any situation.....except kids. She freaks..
I have had her her whole life, I know for a fact that she's never had any
encounters with kids to make her this way. It's just something about the
way she is. I am careful to not make her feel uncomfortable with small
children. (and I really believe that my dog appreciates me recognizing the
fact that she IS uncomfortable around kids and it calms her a bit)
Perry
"Al Clark" wrote in message
...
I have had a border collie mix, (maybe Scotty like the breeder said but I
don't see anything but border collie) since early November, he was born

Sept
3 so he's almost 6 mos. Anyway, he has been taking to training pretty well
so far, sit, stay, lie down, come, shake, housebroken, rings a bell to go
out, and sleeps and rests in his cage. He has been very friendly with the
adults we meet on walks so far and with my 8 year old daughter who feeds

and
plays with him. Today however, he started barking at the kids playing

while
we were walking past, and the mother of a 3 yr. old came out and asked if
the child could pet him, I said he has been very good till now, but as the
child got closer (she was crying to pet him when we first saw her and was
still making a racket while reaching out) but my pup got very aggressive

and
the fur on his neck was standing up while he was barking and even tried
nipping the girl. He was fine with the mom, just sniffed her, but the way

he
acted with the child has me worried, any advise would be appreciated. I'm
gonna get him neutered as soon as possible hoping this may calm him a bit.

Al



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Old February 26th 04, 03:25 AM
Perry
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I have one dog who is almost 10 years old. She is as calm as she can be in
any situation.....except kids. She freaks..
I have had her her whole life, I know for a fact that she's never had any
encounters with kids to make her this way. It's just something about the
way she is. I am careful to not make her feel uncomfortable with small
children. (and I really believe that my dog appreciates me recognizing the
fact that she IS uncomfortable around kids and it calms her a bit)
Perry
"Al Clark" wrote in message
...
I have had a border collie mix, (maybe Scotty like the breeder said but I
don't see anything but border collie) since early November, he was born

Sept
3 so he's almost 6 mos. Anyway, he has been taking to training pretty well
so far, sit, stay, lie down, come, shake, housebroken, rings a bell to go
out, and sleeps and rests in his cage. He has been very friendly with the
adults we meet on walks so far and with my 8 year old daughter who feeds

and
plays with him. Today however, he started barking at the kids playing

while
we were walking past, and the mother of a 3 yr. old came out and asked if
the child could pet him, I said he has been very good till now, but as the
child got closer (she was crying to pet him when we first saw her and was
still making a racket while reaching out) but my pup got very aggressive

and
the fur on his neck was standing up while he was barking and even tried
nipping the girl. He was fine with the mom, just sniffed her, but the way

he
acted with the child has me worried, any advise would be appreciated. I'm
gonna get him neutered as soon as possible hoping this may calm him a bit.

Al



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Old February 26th 04, 03:25 AM
Perry
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I have one dog who is almost 10 years old. She is as calm as she can be in
any situation.....except kids. She freaks..
I have had her her whole life, I know for a fact that she's never had any
encounters with kids to make her this way. It's just something about the
way she is. I am careful to not make her feel uncomfortable with small
children. (and I really believe that my dog appreciates me recognizing the
fact that she IS uncomfortable around kids and it calms her a bit)
Perry
"Al Clark" wrote in message
...
I have had a border collie mix, (maybe Scotty like the breeder said but I
don't see anything but border collie) since early November, he was born

Sept
3 so he's almost 6 mos. Anyway, he has been taking to training pretty well
so far, sit, stay, lie down, come, shake, housebroken, rings a bell to go
out, and sleeps and rests in his cage. He has been very friendly with the
adults we meet on walks so far and with my 8 year old daughter who feeds

and
plays with him. Today however, he started barking at the kids playing

while
we were walking past, and the mother of a 3 yr. old came out and asked if
the child could pet him, I said he has been very good till now, but as the
child got closer (she was crying to pet him when we first saw her and was
still making a racket while reaching out) but my pup got very aggressive

and
the fur on his neck was standing up while he was barking and even tried
nipping the girl. He was fine with the mom, just sniffed her, but the way

he
acted with the child has me worried, any advise would be appreciated. I'm
gonna get him neutered as soon as possible hoping this may calm him a bit.

Al



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Old February 26th 04, 03:25 AM
Perry
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I have one dog who is almost 10 years old. She is as calm as she can be in
any situation.....except kids. She freaks..
I have had her her whole life, I know for a fact that she's never had any
encounters with kids to make her this way. It's just something about the
way she is. I am careful to not make her feel uncomfortable with small
children. (and I really believe that my dog appreciates me recognizing the
fact that she IS uncomfortable around kids and it calms her a bit)
Perry
"Al Clark" wrote in message
...
I have had a border collie mix, (maybe Scotty like the breeder said but I
don't see anything but border collie) since early November, he was born

Sept
3 so he's almost 6 mos. Anyway, he has been taking to training pretty well
so far, sit, stay, lie down, come, shake, housebroken, rings a bell to go
out, and sleeps and rests in his cage. He has been very friendly with the
adults we meet on walks so far and with my 8 year old daughter who feeds

and
plays with him. Today however, he started barking at the kids playing

while
we were walking past, and the mother of a 3 yr. old came out and asked if
the child could pet him, I said he has been very good till now, but as the
child got closer (she was crying to pet him when we first saw her and was
still making a racket while reaching out) but my pup got very aggressive

and
the fur on his neck was standing up while he was barking and even tried
nipping the girl. He was fine with the mom, just sniffed her, but the way

he
acted with the child has me worried, any advise would be appreciated. I'm
gonna get him neutered as soon as possible hoping this may calm him a bit.

Al



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Old February 26th 04, 12:51 PM
Al Clark
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Thanks for the links and advice Jack, We have been socializing him as much
as possible, he goes to friends houses who have other dogs, pet stores, and
on our walks many times people have come over to pet him, I think as you
said it was the screaming of kids and reaching out, it's the first nice day
in months around here so the kids are just starting to come outside to play,
last night I was thinking the same thing about getting the little girls
older sister and brother to help get him used to the kids. And the herding
issue is there also. Anyone had any luck with curbing that trait? Thanks
again.

Al


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Old February 26th 04, 12:51 PM
Al Clark
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Thanks for the links and advice Jack, We have been socializing him as much
as possible, he goes to friends houses who have other dogs, pet stores, and
on our walks many times people have come over to pet him, I think as you
said it was the screaming of kids and reaching out, it's the first nice day
in months around here so the kids are just starting to come outside to play,
last night I was thinking the same thing about getting the little girls
older sister and brother to help get him used to the kids. And the herding
issue is there also. Anyone had any luck with curbing that trait? Thanks
again.

Al


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Old February 26th 04, 12:51 PM
Al Clark
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Thanks for the links and advice Jack, We have been socializing him as much
as possible, he goes to friends houses who have other dogs, pet stores, and
on our walks many times people have come over to pet him, I think as you
said it was the screaming of kids and reaching out, it's the first nice day
in months around here so the kids are just starting to come outside to play,
last night I was thinking the same thing about getting the little girls
older sister and brother to help get him used to the kids. And the herding
issue is there also. Anyone had any luck with curbing that trait? Thanks
again.

Al


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Old February 26th 04, 12:51 PM
Al Clark
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Thanks for the links and advice Jack, We have been socializing him as much
as possible, he goes to friends houses who have other dogs, pet stores, and
on our walks many times people have come over to pet him, I think as you
said it was the screaming of kids and reaching out, it's the first nice day
in months around here so the kids are just starting to come outside to play,
last night I was thinking the same thing about getting the little girls
older sister and brother to help get him used to the kids. And the herding
issue is there also. Anyone had any luck with curbing that trait? Thanks
again.

Al


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Old February 26th 04, 03:18 PM
Shannon
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I can't really add too much to Handsome Jack's advice, except for "what he
said!", but here's some of my experience.

When my dog was a puppy (herding breed also) I made a point to do some of
our obedience practice in a field near a playground. That way, Guinness got
very used to listening and obeying commands with the screaming and running
in the background.

When I had taught him a reliable cute trick, I started letting selected kids
greet Guinness by having them make him do his trick (usually, "Bang, you're
dead"). He was always much more willing to accept a pat after doing trick
'n treat. I never missed an opportunity to lecture on proper dog greeting
techniques (always ask, let the dog smell your hand first, don't pat on top
of the head, etc.).

Always be ready to step in and say "NO - my dog is feeling grumpy today, and
you may not pet him". It's your job as owner and protector. Read your dog,
and step in when you need to.

Oh, and herding breeds tend to respond really well to clicker training.

Good luck!

-Shannon and Guinness
"Al Clark" wrote in message
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Thanks for the links and advice Jack, We have been socializing him as much
as possible, he goes to friends houses who have other dogs, pet stores,

and
on our walks many times people have come over to pet him, I think as you
said it was the screaming of kids and reaching out, it's the first nice

day
in months around here so the kids are just starting to come outside to

play,
last night I was thinking the same thing about getting the little girls
older sister and brother to help get him used to the kids. And the herding
issue is there also. Anyone had any luck with curbing that trait? Thanks
again.

Al




 




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