I'm back to the old "who's been pee'ing in my closet".... Both yesterday
and today I found puddles. Havign a cat and a dog - ya gotta try to rule
one or the other out.

I had a rubber backed throw rug on the floor and yesterday it had a huge
puddle on it. The only one in there that I'd notice was the cat. Took
the rug out - the walltowall underneath wasn't touched (the rubber backing
on the throw saved it). I closed the door.

This morning I got up to go to the gym. Went to the closet to get my socks,
closed the door again. (pocket sliding doors, both animals know how to get
in.) returned home and promptly took dog for her morning walk- she poop'd
and pee'd no problem.

Return home, shower, go to get dressed and find closet door open about 4"
(just enough for cat to get in, but not enough for 55lb dog). And a puddle
on the floor. Have my son check the litter pan - (that was cleaned
yesterday am) no pee in it. WONDERFUL.

OK, so this is Sabrina, my BlackKnight, recent tripod. Yes, with the trama
of the surgery and now being off all meds, but still in the healing
process - MAYBE she's got a UTI. So off to the vet again, tomorrow, cat in
tow, dog urine in bottle.

Thing is - both my animals have frequent UTI problems. Both are on special
prescription Science diet dry food diets to help their urinary tracks. (cat
refuses - all out refuses wet food). What can I do?
Both have been on Batryl (sp?) antibiotic so much this past summer I'm
afraid they'll get immune to its effects.

Can someone give me references to this potash thing and the validity of it
relating to UTI? Or what else can I do or what food can I switch to that
will help.

UGH - any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

Hi Chloe's Mom,

What type of treats does your dog eat? My lab is very prone to UTI's and
can't eat most dog treats sold on the market. Also, there is a product/med.
sold by the vets called DLM. You may want to check this out or at least ask
the vet about it. What is so bad about UTI's (and I'm not a vet, just
worked for one) is the formation of crystals , which you probably know by
now.
Marie


"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
I'm back to the old "who's been pee'ing in my closet".... Both yesterday
and today I found puddles. Havign a cat and a dog - ya gotta try to
rule
one or the other out.

I had a rubber backed throw rug on the floor and yesterday it had a huge
puddle on it. The only one in there that I'd notice was the cat. Took
the rug out - the walltowall underneath wasn't touched (the rubber backing
on the throw saved it). I closed the door.

This morning I got up to go to the gym. Went to the closet to get my
socks,
closed the door again. (pocket sliding doors, both animals know how to
get
in.) returned home and promptly took dog for her morning walk- she
poop'd
and pee'd no problem.

Return home, shower, go to get dressed and find closet door open about 4"
(just enough for cat to get in, but not enough for 55lb dog). And a
puddle
on the floor. Have my son check the litter pan - (that was cleaned
yesterday am) no pee in it. WONDERFUL.

OK, so this is Sabrina, my BlackKnight, recent tripod. Yes, with the
trama
of the surgery and now being off all meds, but still in the healing
process - MAYBE she's got a UTI. So off to the vet again, tomorrow, cat
in
tow, dog urine in bottle.

Thing is - both my animals have frequent UTI problems. Both are on
special
prescription Science diet dry food diets to help their urinary tracks.
(cat
refuses - all out refuses wet food). What can I do?
Both have been on Batryl (sp?) antibiotic so much this past summer I'm
afraid they'll get immune to its effects.

Can someone give me references to this potash thing and the validity of it
relating to UTI? Or what else can I do or what food can I switch to that
will help.

UGH - any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

Hi Chloe's Mom,

What type of treats does your dog eat? My lab is very prone to UTI's and
can't eat most dog treats sold on the market. Also, there is a product/med.
sold by the vets called DLM. You may want to check this out or at least ask
the vet about it. What is so bad about UTI's (and I'm not a vet, just
worked for one) is the formation of crystals , which you probably know by
now.
Marie


"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
I'm back to the old "who's been pee'ing in my closet".... Both yesterday
and today I found puddles. Havign a cat and a dog - ya gotta try to
rule
one or the other out.

I had a rubber backed throw rug on the floor and yesterday it had a huge
puddle on it. The only one in there that I'd notice was the cat. Took
the rug out - the walltowall underneath wasn't touched (the rubber backing
on the throw saved it). I closed the door.

This morning I got up to go to the gym. Went to the closet to get my
socks,
closed the door again. (pocket sliding doors, both animals know how to
get
in.) returned home and promptly took dog for her morning walk- she
poop'd
and pee'd no problem.

Return home, shower, go to get dressed and find closet door open about 4"
(just enough for cat to get in, but not enough for 55lb dog). And a
puddle
on the floor. Have my son check the litter pan - (that was cleaned
yesterday am) no pee in it. WONDERFUL.

OK, so this is Sabrina, my BlackKnight, recent tripod. Yes, with the
trama
of the surgery and now being off all meds, but still in the healing
process - MAYBE she's got a UTI. So off to the vet again, tomorrow, cat
in
tow, dog urine in bottle.

Thing is - both my animals have frequent UTI problems. Both are on
special
prescription Science diet dry food diets to help their urinary tracks.
(cat
refuses - all out refuses wet food). What can I do?
Both have been on Batryl (sp?) antibiotic so much this past summer I'm
afraid they'll get immune to its effects.

Can someone give me references to this potash thing and the validity of it
relating to UTI? Or what else can I do or what food can I switch to that
will help.

UGH - any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

Dog treats are old mother hubbard brand oldfashioned mini biscuits and
we've used them since we got Chloe in January.

The thing is - the cat doesn't get the biscuits. Both animals keep
showing crystals in their urine test after test and month after month.
The vet suggested trying new food, switching the dog from science diet
chicken/rice formula over to science diet prescription W/D which has
more fiber in it (worked well on the poop end) which was supposed to
help inprove the urinary track

I'm waiting to hear back from the vet on today's test results. The
cat is in for the day (waiting for her bladder to fill up so they can
extract a sample) and I took a sample of the dogs in with me.

But besides continual treatment of antibiotics, which I know can loose
their effectiveness over time. I need to find a permanent solution
to reducing the crystals in the urine in both animals.


On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:41:43 GMT, "Marie C" wrote:

Hi Chloe's Mom,

What type of treats does your dog eat? My lab is very prone to UTI's and
can't eat most dog treats sold on the market. Also, there is a product/med.
sold by the vets called DLM. You may want to check this out or at least ask
the vet about it. What is so bad about UTI's (and I'm not a vet, just
worked for one) is the formation of crystals , which you probably know by
now.
Marie


"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
I'm back to the old "who's been pee'ing in my closet".... Both yesterday
and today I found puddles. Havign a cat and a dog - ya gotta try to
rule
one or the other out.

I had a rubber backed throw rug on the floor and yesterday it had a huge
puddle on it. The only one in there that I'd notice was the cat. Took
the rug out - the walltowall underneath wasn't touched (the rubber backing
on the throw saved it). I closed the door.

This morning I got up to go to the gym. Went to the closet to get my
socks,
closed the door again. (pocket sliding doors, both animals know how to
get
in.) returned home and promptly took dog for her morning walk- she
poop'd
and pee'd no problem.

Return home, shower, go to get dressed and find closet door open about 4"
(just enough for cat to get in, but not enough for 55lb dog). And a
puddle
on the floor. Have my son check the litter pan - (that was cleaned
yesterday am) no pee in it. WONDERFUL.

OK, so this is Sabrina, my BlackKnight, recent tripod. Yes, with the
trama
of the surgery and now being off all meds, but still in the healing
process - MAYBE she's got a UTI. So off to the vet again, tomorrow, cat
in
tow, dog urine in bottle.

Thing is - both my animals have frequent UTI problems. Both are on
special
prescription Science diet dry food diets to help their urinary tracks.
(cat
refuses - all out refuses wet food). What can I do?
Both have been on Batryl (sp?) antibiotic so much this past summer I'm
afraid they'll get immune to its effects.

Can someone give me references to this potash thing and the validity of it
relating to UTI? Or what else can I do or what food can I switch to that
will help.

UGH - any advice would be appreciated. Thanks




jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html

Dog treats are old mother hubbard brand oldfashioned mini biscuits and
we've used them since we got Chloe in January.

The thing is - the cat doesn't get the biscuits. Both animals keep
showing crystals in their urine test after test and month after month.
The vet suggested trying new food, switching the dog from science diet
chicken/rice formula over to science diet prescription W/D which has
more fiber in it (worked well on the poop end) which was supposed to
help inprove the urinary track

I'm waiting to hear back from the vet on today's test results. The
cat is in for the day (waiting for her bladder to fill up so they can
extract a sample) and I took a sample of the dogs in with me.

But besides continual treatment of antibiotics, which I know can loose
their effectiveness over time. I need to find a permanent solution
to reducing the crystals in the urine in both animals.


On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:41:43 GMT, "Marie C" wrote:

Hi Chloe's Mom,

What type of treats does your dog eat? My lab is very prone to UTI's and
can't eat most dog treats sold on the market. Also, there is a product/med.
sold by the vets called DLM. You may want to check this out or at least ask
the vet about it. What is so bad about UTI's (and I'm not a vet, just
worked for one) is the formation of crystals , which you probably know by
now.
Marie


"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
I'm back to the old "who's been pee'ing in my closet".... Both yesterday
and today I found puddles. Havign a cat and a dog - ya gotta try to
rule
one or the other out.

I had a rubber backed throw rug on the floor and yesterday it had a huge
puddle on it. The only one in there that I'd notice was the cat. Took
the rug out - the walltowall underneath wasn't touched (the rubber backing
on the throw saved it). I closed the door.

This morning I got up to go to the gym. Went to the closet to get my
socks,
closed the door again. (pocket sliding doors, both animals know how to
get
in.) returned home and promptly took dog for her morning walk- she
poop'd
and pee'd no problem.

Return home, shower, go to get dressed and find closet door open about 4"
(just enough for cat to get in, but not enough for 55lb dog). And a
puddle
on the floor. Have my son check the litter pan - (that was cleaned
yesterday am) no pee in it. WONDERFUL.

OK, so this is Sabrina, my BlackKnight, recent tripod. Yes, with the
trama
of the surgery and now being off all meds, but still in the healing
process - MAYBE she's got a UTI. So off to the vet again, tomorrow, cat
in
tow, dog urine in bottle.

Thing is - both my animals have frequent UTI problems. Both are on
special
prescription Science diet dry food diets to help their urinary tracks.
(cat
refuses - all out refuses wet food). What can I do?
Both have been on Batryl (sp?) antibiotic so much this past summer I'm
afraid they'll get immune to its effects.

Can someone give me references to this potash thing and the validity of it
relating to UTI? Or what else can I do or what food can I switch to that
will help.

UGH - any advice would be appreciated. Thanks




jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html

Can you try not giving the dog treats for three-four days. Then, test the
urine with the ph papers. I test my dog about every 3-4 days. If he shows
a high ph, (which usually means he ate something he shouldn't have) then I
will give him 1 tablet of DLM to reduce the urine alkalinity. I don't know
anything about cats urine:-( I'm surprised the prescription food didn't
help but I do know if Sunny gets a treat he shouldn't have, his ph does go
up high, somewhere over 8.0+. I make the dog treats with cheese and rice
flour and he can tollerate that for a treat. These treats are made to keep
the urine ph low. If you would like the recipie, just let me know.
Marie


"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
Dog treats are old mother hubbard brand oldfashioned mini biscuits and
we've used them since we got Chloe in January.

The thing is - the cat doesn't get the biscuits. Both animals keep
showing crystals in their urine test after test and month after month.
The vet suggested trying new food, switching the dog from science diet
chicken/rice formula over to science diet prescription W/D which has
more fiber in it (worked well on the poop end) which was supposed to
help inprove the urinary track

I'm waiting to hear back from the vet on today's test results. The
cat is in for the day (waiting for her bladder to fill up so they can
extract a sample) and I took a sample of the dogs in with me.

But besides continual treatment of antibiotics, which I know can loose
their effectiveness over time. I need to find a permanent solution
to reducing the crystals in the urine in both animals.


On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:41:43 GMT, "Marie C" wrote:

Hi Chloe's Mom,

What type of treats does your dog eat? My lab is very prone to UTI's and
can't eat most dog treats sold on the market. Also, there is a
product/med.
sold by the vets called DLM. You may want to check this out or at least
ask
the vet about it. What is so bad about UTI's (and I'm not a vet, just
worked for one) is the formation of crystals , which you probably know by
now.
Marie


"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
I'm back to the old "who's been pee'ing in my closet".... Both
yesterday
and today I found puddles. Havign a cat and a dog - ya gotta try to
rule
one or the other out.

I had a rubber backed throw rug on the floor and yesterday it had a
huge
puddle on it. The only one in there that I'd notice was the cat.
Took
the rug out - the walltowall underneath wasn't touched (the rubber
backing
on the throw saved it). I closed the door.

This morning I got up to go to the gym. Went to the closet to get my
socks,
closed the door again. (pocket sliding doors, both animals know how to
get
in.) returned home and promptly took dog for her morning walk- she
poop'd
and pee'd no problem.

Return home, shower, go to get dressed and find closet door open about
4"
(just enough for cat to get in, but not enough for 55lb dog). And a
puddle
on the floor. Have my son check the litter pan - (that was cleaned
yesterday am) no pee in it. WONDERFUL.

OK, so this is Sabrina, my BlackKnight, recent tripod. Yes, with the
trama
of the surgery and now being off all meds, but still in the healing
process - MAYBE she's got a UTI. So off to the vet again, tomorrow,
cat
in
tow, dog urine in bottle.

Thing is - both my animals have frequent UTI problems. Both are on
special
prescription Science diet dry food diets to help their urinary tracks.
(cat
refuses - all out refuses wet food). What can I do?
Both have been on Batryl (sp?) antibiotic so much this past summer I'm
afraid they'll get immune to its effects.

Can someone give me references to this potash thing and the validity of
it
relating to UTI? Or what else can I do or what food can I switch to
that
will help.

UGH - any advice would be appreciated. Thanks




jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html

Can you try not giving the dog treats for three-four days. Then, test the
urine with the ph papers. I test my dog about every 3-4 days. If he shows
a high ph, (which usually means he ate something he shouldn't have) then I
will give him 1 tablet of DLM to reduce the urine alkalinity. I don't know
anything about cats urine:-( I'm surprised the prescription food didn't
help but I do know if Sunny gets a treat he shouldn't have, his ph does go
up high, somewhere over 8.0+. I make the dog treats with cheese and rice
flour and he can tollerate that for a treat. These treats are made to keep
the urine ph low. If you would like the recipie, just let me know.
Marie


"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
Dog treats are old mother hubbard brand oldfashioned mini biscuits and
we've used them since we got Chloe in January.

The thing is - the cat doesn't get the biscuits. Both animals keep
showing crystals in their urine test after test and month after month.
The vet suggested trying new food, switching the dog from science diet
chicken/rice formula over to science diet prescription W/D which has
more fiber in it (worked well on the poop end) which was supposed to
help inprove the urinary track

I'm waiting to hear back from the vet on today's test results. The
cat is in for the day (waiting for her bladder to fill up so they can
extract a sample) and I took a sample of the dogs in with me.

But besides continual treatment of antibiotics, which I know can loose
their effectiveness over time. I need to find a permanent solution
to reducing the crystals in the urine in both animals.


On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:41:43 GMT, "Marie C" wrote:

Hi Chloe's Mom,

What type of treats does your dog eat? My lab is very prone to UTI's and
can't eat most dog treats sold on the market. Also, there is a
product/med.
sold by the vets called DLM. You may want to check this out or at least
ask
the vet about it. What is so bad about UTI's (and I'm not a vet, just
worked for one) is the formation of crystals , which you probably know by
now.
Marie


"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
I'm back to the old "who's been pee'ing in my closet".... Both
yesterday
and today I found puddles. Havign a cat and a dog - ya gotta try to
rule
one or the other out.

I had a rubber backed throw rug on the floor and yesterday it had a
huge
puddle on it. The only one in there that I'd notice was the cat.
Took
the rug out - the walltowall underneath wasn't touched (the rubber
backing
on the throw saved it). I closed the door.

This morning I got up to go to the gym. Went to the closet to get my
socks,
closed the door again. (pocket sliding doors, both animals know how to
get
in.) returned home and promptly took dog for her morning walk- she
poop'd
and pee'd no problem.

Return home, shower, go to get dressed and find closet door open about
4"
(just enough for cat to get in, but not enough for 55lb dog). And a
puddle
on the floor. Have my son check the litter pan - (that was cleaned
yesterday am) no pee in it. WONDERFUL.

OK, so this is Sabrina, my BlackKnight, recent tripod. Yes, with the
trama
of the surgery and now being off all meds, but still in the healing
process - MAYBE she's got a UTI. So off to the vet again, tomorrow,
cat
in
tow, dog urine in bottle.

Thing is - both my animals have frequent UTI problems. Both are on
special
prescription Science diet dry food diets to help their urinary tracks.
(cat
refuses - all out refuses wet food). What can I do?
Both have been on Batryl (sp?) antibiotic so much this past summer I'm
afraid they'll get immune to its effects.

Can someone give me references to this potash thing and the validity of
it
relating to UTI? Or what else can I do or what food can I switch to
that
will help.

UGH - any advice would be appreciated. Thanks




jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html

Please do send me the recipe, I would appreciate it. Chloe loves her
treats and they are great training tools. I also have occasionally
given her nuked hotdogs as treats for our more serious training. (as
in we are currently training her to ring a doorbell when she wants to
come inside - those treats work WONDERS for that kind of training and
she picks things up so quickly).

If you wouldn't mind, could you email the recipe to me, (my reply too
addy needs to be changed to "hotmail").

Also, on the ph testing - what do you use? I've never done anything
like this so I wouldn't even know where to go to get something like
that. (I know we test the PH in our pool w/ chemicals, but I don't
think my BF would appreciate me putting dog pee in the tester. :-)

And what is DLM?

I know I'm full of questions - I just haven't had to deal with this
kind of medical thing before.


On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:14:29 GMT, "Marie C" wrote:

Can you try not giving the dog treats for three-four days. Then, test the
urine with the ph papers. I test my dog about every 3-4 days. If he shows
a high ph, (which usually means he ate something he shouldn't have) then I
will give him 1 tablet of DLM to reduce the urine alkalinity. I don't know
anything about cats urine:-( I'm surprised the prescription food didn't
help but I do know if Sunny gets a treat he shouldn't have, his ph does go
up high, somewhere over 8.0+. I make the dog treats with cheese and rice
flour and he can tollerate that for a treat. These treats are made to keep
the urine ph low. If you would like the recipie, just let me know.
Marie


"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
Dog treats are old mother hubbard brand oldfashioned mini biscuits and
we've used them since we got Chloe in January.

The thing is - the cat doesn't get the biscuits. Both animals keep
showing crystals in their urine test after test and month after month.
The vet suggested trying new food, switching the dog from science diet
chicken/rice formula over to science diet prescription W/D which has
more fiber in it (worked well on the poop end) which was supposed to
help inprove the urinary track

I'm waiting to hear back from the vet on today's test results. The
cat is in for the day (waiting for her bladder to fill up so they can
extract a sample) and I took a sample of the dogs in with me.

But besides continual treatment of antibiotics, which I know can loose
their effectiveness over time. I need to find a permanent solution
to reducing the crystals in the urine in both animals.


On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:41:43 GMT, "Marie C" wrote:

Hi Chloe's Mom,

What type of treats does your dog eat? My lab is very prone to UTI's and
can't eat most dog treats sold on the market. Also, there is a
product/med.
sold by the vets called DLM. You may want to check this out or at least
ask
the vet about it. What is so bad about UTI's (and I'm not a vet, just
worked for one) is the formation of crystals , which you probably know by
now.
Marie


"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
I'm back to the old "who's been pee'ing in my closet".... Both
yesterday
and today I found puddles. Havign a cat and a dog - ya gotta try to
rule
one or the other out.

I had a rubber backed throw rug on the floor and yesterday it had a
huge
puddle on it. The only one in there that I'd notice was the cat.
Took
the rug out - the walltowall underneath wasn't touched (the rubber
backing
on the throw saved it). I closed the door.

This morning I got up to go to the gym. Went to the closet to get my
socks,
closed the door again. (pocket sliding doors, both animals know how to
get
in.) returned home and promptly took dog for her morning walk- she
poop'd
and pee'd no problem.

Return home, shower, go to get dressed and find closet door open about
4"
(just enough for cat to get in, but not enough for 55lb dog). And a
puddle
on the floor. Have my son check the litter pan - (that was cleaned
yesterday am) no pee in it. WONDERFUL.

OK, so this is Sabrina, my BlackKnight, recent tripod. Yes, with the
trama
of the surgery and now being off all meds, but still in the healing
process - MAYBE she's got a UTI. So off to the vet again, tomorrow,
cat
in
tow, dog urine in bottle.

Thing is - both my animals have frequent UTI problems. Both are on
special
prescription Science diet dry food diets to help their urinary tracks.
(cat
refuses - all out refuses wet food). What can I do?
Both have been on Batryl (sp?) antibiotic so much this past summer I'm
afraid they'll get immune to its effects.

Can someone give me references to this potash thing and the validity of
it
relating to UTI? Or what else can I do or what food can I switch to
that
will help.

UGH - any advice would be appreciated. Thanks




jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html


jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html

Please do send me the recipe, I would appreciate it. Chloe loves her
treats and they are great training tools. I also have occasionally
given her nuked hotdogs as treats for our more serious training. (as
in we are currently training her to ring a doorbell when she wants to
come inside - those treats work WONDERS for that kind of training and
she picks things up so quickly).

If you wouldn't mind, could you email the recipe to me, (my reply too
addy needs to be changed to "hotmail").

Also, on the ph testing - what do you use? I've never done anything
like this so I wouldn't even know where to go to get something like
that. (I know we test the PH in our pool w/ chemicals, but I don't
think my BF would appreciate me putting dog pee in the tester. :-)

And what is DLM?

I know I'm full of questions - I just haven't had to deal with this
kind of medical thing before.


On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:14:29 GMT, "Marie C" wrote:

Can you try not giving the dog treats for three-four days. Then, test the
urine with the ph papers. I test my dog about every 3-4 days. If he shows
a high ph, (which usually means he ate something he shouldn't have) then I
will give him 1 tablet of DLM to reduce the urine alkalinity. I don't know
anything about cats urine:-( I'm surprised the prescription food didn't
help but I do know if Sunny gets a treat he shouldn't have, his ph does go
up high, somewhere over 8.0+. I make the dog treats with cheese and rice
flour and he can tollerate that for a treat. These treats are made to keep
the urine ph low. If you would like the recipie, just let me know.
Marie


"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
Dog treats are old mother hubbard brand oldfashioned mini biscuits and
we've used them since we got Chloe in January.

The thing is - the cat doesn't get the biscuits. Both animals keep
showing crystals in their urine test after test and month after month.
The vet suggested trying new food, switching the dog from science diet
chicken/rice formula over to science diet prescription W/D which has
more fiber in it (worked well on the poop end) which was supposed to
help inprove the urinary track

I'm waiting to hear back from the vet on today's test results. The
cat is in for the day (waiting for her bladder to fill up so they can
extract a sample) and I took a sample of the dogs in with me.

But besides continual treatment of antibiotics, which I know can loose
their effectiveness over time. I need to find a permanent solution
to reducing the crystals in the urine in both animals.


On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:41:43 GMT, "Marie C" wrote:

Hi Chloe's Mom,

What type of treats does your dog eat? My lab is very prone to UTI's and
can't eat most dog treats sold on the market. Also, there is a
product/med.
sold by the vets called DLM. You may want to check this out or at least
ask
the vet about it. What is so bad about UTI's (and I'm not a vet, just
worked for one) is the formation of crystals , which you probably know by
now.
Marie


"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
I'm back to the old "who's been pee'ing in my closet".... Both
yesterday
and today I found puddles. Havign a cat and a dog - ya gotta try to
rule
one or the other out.

I had a rubber backed throw rug on the floor and yesterday it had a
huge
puddle on it. The only one in there that I'd notice was the cat.
Took
the rug out - the walltowall underneath wasn't touched (the rubber
backing
on the throw saved it). I closed the door.

This morning I got up to go to the gym. Went to the closet to get my
socks,
closed the door again. (pocket sliding doors, both animals know how to
get
in.) returned home and promptly took dog for her morning walk- she
poop'd
and pee'd no problem.

Return home, shower, go to get dressed and find closet door open about
4"
(just enough for cat to get in, but not enough for 55lb dog). And a
puddle
on the floor. Have my son check the litter pan - (that was cleaned
yesterday am) no pee in it. WONDERFUL.

OK, so this is Sabrina, my BlackKnight, recent tripod. Yes, with the
trama
of the surgery and now being off all meds, but still in the healing
process - MAYBE she's got a UTI. So off to the vet again, tomorrow,
cat
in
tow, dog urine in bottle.

Thing is - both my animals have frequent UTI problems. Both are on
special
prescription Science diet dry food diets to help their urinary tracks.
(cat
refuses - all out refuses wet food). What can I do?
Both have been on Batryl (sp?) antibiotic so much this past summer I'm
afraid they'll get immune to its effects.

Can someone give me references to this potash thing and the validity of
it
relating to UTI? Or what else can I do or what food can I switch to
that
will help.

UGH - any advice would be appreciated. Thanks




jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html


jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html

I don't know what DLM stands for, however, my conventional vet and my
holistic vet both recommended it for a high ph urine. Please talk to your
vet about all of this because sometimes what is good for one dog is not good
for the other and I would never want to give you wrong advice.

The ph papers I use is: pHydrion Vivid 5.5 to 8.0. Micro Essential
Laboratory, Brooklyn, N.Y. 11210 U.S.A. They are very easy to use. Here in
Illinois I pay about $12.00 and they last a long time. Your vet may have
them available for you.

Here's the recipe for: Cheese and Garlic Dog Cookies for low purine

1 1/2 cups white rice flour
1 1/4 cups grated cheese (I mix a few like cheddar and low-fat mozzarella)
1/2 stick margarine - could use more if needed
1 clove of garlic crushed (could use less)
1 pinch salt
milk - just enough to make ingredients stick together

Cream cheese, margarine, garlic, salt & flour. Add enough milk to form into
ball. If you would like to use a cookie cutter then you must refrigerate
for about 1/2 hour. I just roll into ball and flatten. Use slightly
greased cookie sheet and bake at 375 for about 15 minutes. Sometimes I add
a touch of parsley. I do refrigerate these cookies. And, if you get
hungry, you can eat one too!

I would test Chloe and only feed her the dog food for a few days, then test
the ph. Gradually add some of these cookies to her diet and test the ph
again. Hope all this makes sense! Good luck.
Marie





"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
Please do send me the recipe, I would appreciate it. Chloe loves her
treats and they are great training tools. I also have occasionally
given her nuked hotdogs as treats for our more serious training. (as
in we are currently training her to ring a doorbell when she wants to
come inside - those treats work WONDERS for that kind of training and
she picks things up so quickly).

If you wouldn't mind, could you email the recipe to me, (my reply too
addy needs to be changed to "hotmail").

Also, on the ph testing - what do you use? I've never done anything
like this so I wouldn't even know where to go to get something like
that. (I know we test the PH in our pool w/ chemicals, but I don't
think my BF would appreciate me putting dog pee in the tester. :-)

And what is DLM?

I know I'm full of questions - I just haven't had to deal with this
kind of medical thing before.


On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:14:29 GMT, "Marie C" wrote:

Can you try not giving the dog treats for three-four days. Then, test
the
urine with the ph papers. I test my dog about every 3-4 days. If he
shows
a high ph, (which usually means he ate something he shouldn't have) then
I
will give him 1 tablet of DLM to reduce the urine alkalinity. I don't
know
anything about cats urine:-( I'm surprised the prescription food
didn't
help but I do know if Sunny gets a treat he shouldn't have, his ph does
go
up high, somewhere over 8.0+. I make the dog treats with cheese and rice
flour and he can tollerate that for a treat. These treats are made to
keep
the urine ph low. If you would like the recipie, just let me know.
Marie


"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
Dog treats are old mother hubbard brand oldfashioned mini biscuits and
we've used them since we got Chloe in January.

The thing is - the cat doesn't get the biscuits. Both animals keep
showing crystals in their urine test after test and month after month.
The vet suggested trying new food, switching the dog from science diet
chicken/rice formula over to science diet prescription W/D which has
more fiber in it (worked well on the poop end) which was supposed to
help inprove the urinary track

I'm waiting to hear back from the vet on today's test results. The
cat is in for the day (waiting for her bladder to fill up so they can
extract a sample) and I took a sample of the dogs in with me.

But besides continual treatment of antibiotics, which I know can loose
their effectiveness over time. I need to find a permanent solution
to reducing the crystals in the urine in both animals.


On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:41:43 GMT, "Marie C" wrote:

Hi Chloe's Mom,

What type of treats does your dog eat? My lab is very prone to UTI's
and
can't eat most dog treats sold on the market. Also, there is a
product/med.
sold by the vets called DLM. You may want to check this out or at
least
ask
the vet about it. What is so bad about UTI's (and I'm not a vet, just
worked for one) is the formation of crystals , which you probably know
by
now.
Marie


"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
I'm back to the old "who's been pee'ing in my closet".... Both
yesterday
and today I found puddles. Havign a cat and a dog - ya gotta try
to
rule
one or the other out.

I had a rubber backed throw rug on the floor and yesterday it had a
huge
puddle on it. The only one in there that I'd notice was the cat.
Took
the rug out - the walltowall underneath wasn't touched (the rubber
backing
on the throw saved it). I closed the door.

This morning I got up to go to the gym. Went to the closet to get
my
socks,
closed the door again. (pocket sliding doors, both animals know how
to
get
in.) returned home and promptly took dog for her morning walk- she
poop'd
and pee'd no problem.

Return home, shower, go to get dressed and find closet door open
about
4"
(just enough for cat to get in, but not enough for 55lb dog). And
a
puddle
on the floor. Have my son check the litter pan - (that was
cleaned
yesterday am) no pee in it. WONDERFUL.

OK, so this is Sabrina, my BlackKnight, recent tripod. Yes, with
the
trama
of the surgery and now being off all meds, but still in the healing
process - MAYBE she's got a UTI. So off to the vet again,
tomorrow,
cat
in
tow, dog urine in bottle.

Thing is - both my animals have frequent UTI problems. Both are on
special
prescription Science diet dry food diets to help their urinary
tracks.
(cat
refuses - all out refuses wet food). What can I do?
Both have been on Batryl (sp?) antibiotic so much this past summer
I'm
afraid they'll get immune to its effects.

Can someone give me references to this potash thing and the validity
of
it
relating to UTI? Or what else can I do or what food can I switch
to
that
will help.

UGH - any advice would be appreciated. Thanks




jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html


jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html