Shammie finished her CD in Chattanooga this past weekend - with a first place
score of 197!! We were the first class of the day and that was the high score
until the last class turned in a 198 1/2. I had toyed with the idea of moving
up to Open on Sunday if we finished the title on Saturday, but those few hours
of possibly being HIT spoiled me to want to not just go for the title, but go
for scores too. ;-) So we stayed in novice on Sun. and took a lagniappe first
with a 196 (I stepped into her *twice* on the figure 8 halts!).

So we're going to take our time and work on hitting consistent fronts and
finishes before we trial in Open. Meanwhile, we're going to take a stab at
agility. Preferred, because Sham's ready in all aspects but one - she knocks
bars. She just isn't a very good jumper. She is very fast, and *I* think she
doesn't like to slow down to take an extra stride, so she jumps big long and
flat. She seems to take off from a different distance every time. I've been
doing Suzanne Clothier's Natural Jumping Method with her and she has gotten a
lot better, but in that method, Sham chooses to jump the two stride distance as
bounces. Which I'm suspecting has actually further ingrained that long flat
jump. I'm thinking the cavelletti-type jumps need to be a lot tighter to force
her to rock back and then arc over?

Got any tips, ideas, exercises to improve jumping styles anyone?

Susan Fraser, owned and trained by
HR BeBop a Lu SheBop SH, HR Shamma Lamma Ding Dong CD MH (is that right? do
obedience titles come before field titles?), and Gris-Gris Gumbo Ya Ya

Susan Fraser wrote:
Shammie finished her CD in Chattanooga this past weekend - with a first place
score of 197!!

Woo-hoo! *Nice* score.

Meanwhile, we're going to take a stab at
agility. Preferred, because Sham's ready in all aspects but one - she knocks
bars. She just isn't a very good jumper. She is very fast, and *I* think she
doesn't like to slow down to take an extra stride, so she jumps big long and
flat. She seems to take off from a different distance every time. I've been
doing Suzanne Clothier's Natural Jumping Method with her and she has gotten a
lot better, but in that method, Sham chooses to jump the two stride distance as
bounces. Which I'm suspecting has actually further ingrained that long flat
jump. I'm thinking the cavelletti-type jumps need to be a lot tighter to force
her to rock back and then arc over?

Got any tips, ideas, exercises to improve jumping styles anyone?

http://www.dogwise.com/ItemDetails.cfm?ID=DTA125

I was originally doing Clothier with my first dog, but changed to Chris Zink's
method when I started jumping Patience. I like it - it's especially great for
agility dogs as it reall teaches to adjust their stride lengths.

Susan Fraser, owned and trained by
HR BeBop a Lu SheBop SH, HR Shamma Lamma Ding Dong CD MH (is that right? do
obedience titles come before field titles?)

Yep - AKC titles go in the order that the sport was started. So in your
case that would be obedience, tracking (in case you ever want to do it :-)),
hunt test, agility.

Congrats again,

Dianne

Susan Fraser wrote:
Shammie finished her CD in Chattanooga this past weekend - with a first place
score of 197!!

Woo-hoo! *Nice* score.

Meanwhile, we're going to take a stab at
agility. Preferred, because Sham's ready in all aspects but one - she knocks
bars. She just isn't a very good jumper. She is very fast, and *I* think she
doesn't like to slow down to take an extra stride, so she jumps big long and
flat. She seems to take off from a different distance every time. I've been
doing Suzanne Clothier's Natural Jumping Method with her and she has gotten a
lot better, but in that method, Sham chooses to jump the two stride distance as
bounces. Which I'm suspecting has actually further ingrained that long flat
jump. I'm thinking the cavelletti-type jumps need to be a lot tighter to force
her to rock back and then arc over?

Got any tips, ideas, exercises to improve jumping styles anyone?

http://www.dogwise.com/ItemDetails.cfm?ID=DTA125

I was originally doing Clothier with my first dog, but changed to Chris Zink's
method when I started jumping Patience. I like it - it's especially great for
agility dogs as it reall teaches to adjust their stride lengths.

Susan Fraser, owned and trained by
HR BeBop a Lu SheBop SH, HR Shamma Lamma Ding Dong CD MH (is that right? do
obedience titles come before field titles?)

Yep - AKC titles go in the order that the sport was started. So in your
case that would be obedience, tracking (in case you ever want to do it :-)),
hunt test, agility.

Congrats again,

Dianne

diannes wrote:

Susan Fraser wrote:


http://www.dogwise.com/ItemDetails.cfm?ID=DTA125

I was originally doing Clothier with my first dog, but changed to Chris Zink's
method when I started jumping Patience. I like it - it's especially great for
agility dogs as it reall teaches to adjust their stride lengths.

Yep. There are lots of things I like about Suzanne, but I prefer the
Zink jumping method by far.

diannes wrote:

Susan Fraser wrote:


http://www.dogwise.com/ItemDetails.cfm?ID=DTA125

I was originally doing Clothier with my first dog, but changed to Chris Zink's
method when I started jumping Patience. I like it - it's especially great for
agility dogs as it reall teaches to adjust their stride lengths.

Yep. There are lots of things I like about Suzanne, but I prefer the
Zink jumping method by far.

Susan Fraser said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

Got any tips, ideas, exercises to improve jumping styles
anyone?

http://www.cleanrun.com/category.cfm?Category=213

The _Special Jumping Issue_ (March 2003).

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

Susan Fraser said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

Got any tips, ideas, exercises to improve jumping styles
anyone?

http://www.cleanrun.com/category.cfm?Category=213

The _Special Jumping Issue_ (March 2003).

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

O.K., my AOL kilfile filter is boRken, so this ninnyboy post slipped through
sigh and even though I know better, the demon pride alighted on my shoulder
and is making me GASP respond to it - just this one, I promise, and you can
rest assured I'll reset the filter before I see another one!!!

the ninny whines But she DIDN'T GET three SUCCESSIVE high scores.

True. She got four. The precise number of trials in which she was entered. In
order, her scores were 196, 194.5, and 197, and then the langniappe run after
she had earned the title was a 196.

CD level was not any
thing ADVCANCE, yet here it is, with a "Woo-
hoo!" and all?

And thank you very much, Dianne, for the "WOO HOO"!!Of course novice is not
advanced obedience work, except insofar as the heeling goes. But HIT can, after
all, come out of Novice A!! So you upper level competitors DO have to watch out
for us beginners weg

And thanks for the Zink recommendations. It's in the mail.


Susan Fraser, owned and trained by
BeBop a Lu SheBop SH
Shamma Lamma Ding Dong CD MH
and Gris Gris Gumbo YaYa
http://mypeoplepc.com/members/chinch...densinthenews/

O.K., my AOL kilfile filter is boRken, so this ninnyboy post slipped through
sigh and even though I know better, the demon pride alighted on my shoulder
and is making me GASP respond to it - just this one, I promise, and you can
rest assured I'll reset the filter before I see another one!!!

the ninny whines But she DIDN'T GET three SUCCESSIVE high scores.

True. She got four. The precise number of trials in which she was entered. In
order, her scores were 196, 194.5, and 197, and then the langniappe run after
she had earned the title was a 196.

CD level was not any
thing ADVCANCE, yet here it is, with a "Woo-
hoo!" and all?

And thank you very much, Dianne, for the "WOO HOO"!!Of course novice is not
advanced obedience work, except insofar as the heeling goes. But HIT can, after
all, come out of Novice A!! So you upper level competitors DO have to watch out
for us beginners weg

And thanks for the Zink recommendations. It's in the mail.


Susan Fraser, owned and trained by
BeBop a Lu SheBop SH
Shamma Lamma Ding Dong CD MH
and Gris Gris Gumbo YaYa
http://mypeoplepc.com/members/chinch...densinthenews/

Susan Fraser wrote:
O.K., my AOL kilfile filter is boRken, so this ninnyboy post slipped through
sigh

I hate it when that happens!

the ninny whines But she DIDN'T GET three SUCCESSIVE high scores.

True. She got four.

Touche. *g*

The precise number of trials in which she was entered. In
order, her scores were 196, 194.5, and 197, and then the langniappe run after
she had earned the title was a 196.

CD level was not any
thing ADVCANCE, yet here it is, with a "Woo-
hoo!" and all?

And thank you very much, Dianne, for the "WOO HOO"!! Of course novice is not
advanced obedience work, except insofar as the heeling goes.

This one got me thinking. Yes, Novice work is based on basic manners, which is not
all that hard to train. For instance, the coming when called is a basic thing. The
Novice recall exercise is based on coming-when-called, and the the stay and the recall
are the essential parts. That's reflected in the scoring - your dog MUST stay until
called and MUST come quickly on the first command. Those are basics. OTOH the front
& finish are pretty much gravy and you can Q perfectly well without them.

So there's a huge difference between training to the squeak-by-with-a-170 level
and training to a consistant mid-to-high-90s level. Anyone who's ever sat ringside
and had a chance to see some nice dogs work has really got to be awed by the level
of precision and elegance that's involved in that kind of performance. And anyone
who does it definitely deserves a big woo-hoo in my book.

Dianne