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Old January 18th 05, 08:25 PM
Tee
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This is an extremely sad, disgusting story but I think there may be some
merit in repeating it for

1. why you shouldn't let your dog roam.

2. why you should spay/neuter your dog.

3. why invisible fences aren't foolproof.

Someone I know informed me today that his 7mo intact male dog, who was
scheduled for neuter in February, just lost his penis yesterday.

An invisible fence was installed two weeks ago so the pup could be out front
while the owner was out there working. Owner was in the garage during this
time.

Bitch in heat comes walking into the yard, dogs hook up, bitch takes off,
ripping pup's penis off in the process. Owner isn't aware of the mating
going on but becomes immediately aware of the situation when the pup starts
screaming.

ER Vet is amputating the rest of the appendage and will create a man-made
vagina in the male so he can urinate in the future. Prognosis is very good
but well over $2,300 in expenses.

Female dog's owner brought penis to the ER vet, I'm guessing she too decided
to take her dog in when she discovered what was inside the dog, but it was
too late to help.

I've never heard of a dog being castrated like this. I'm assuming its due
to the pup's young age as I know dogs get locked frequently after mating.
Its just so sad that this happened.

Had the bitch's owner kept her home things would be fine but as it turns out
she's likely pregnant and he's now been demaled in the most literal sense of
the word.

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Old January 18th 05, 09:00 PM
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"Tee" wrote in message
...
This is an extremely sad, disgusting story but I think there may be some
merit in repeating it for

1. why you shouldn't let your dog roam.

2. why you should spay/neuter your dog.

3. why invisible fences aren't foolproof.

Someone I know informed me today that his 7mo intact male dog, who was
scheduled for neuter in February, just lost his penis yesterday.

An invisible fence was installed two weeks ago so the pup could be out

front
while the owner was out there working. Owner was in the garage during

this
time.

Bitch in heat comes walking into the yard, dogs hook up, bitch takes off,
ripping pup's penis off in the process. Owner isn't aware of the mating
going on but becomes immediately aware of the situation when the pup

starts
screaming.

ER Vet is amputating the rest of the appendage and will create a man-made
vagina in the male so he can urinate in the future. Prognosis is very

good
but well over $2,300 in expenses.

Female dog's owner brought penis to the ER vet, I'm guessing she too

decided
to take her dog in when she discovered what was inside the dog, but it was
too late to help.

I've never heard of a dog being castrated like this. I'm assuming its due
to the pup's young age as I know dogs get locked frequently after mating.
Its just so sad that this happened.

Had the bitch's owner kept her home things would be fine but as it turns

out
she's likely pregnant and he's now been demaled in the most literal sense

of
the word.

--
Tara

Gross.


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Old January 18th 05, 09:18 PM
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Tee wrote:
This is an extremely sad, disgusting story but I think there may be
some merit in repeating it


Definitely. There's a whole lot of prospective BYBs that haven't
a clue as to the kinds of injuries that can occur during a breeding.

I've never heard of a dog being castrated like this.


FWIW, this isn't technically a castration, which is removal of the
testicles rather than removal of the penis.

I'm assuming its due to the pup's young age as I know dogs get
locked frequently after mating.


Dogs tieing ("locking") during a breeding is the norm; slip matings
(where there's no tie) are the exception. It's actually not uncommon
for male dogs (regardless of age) to get injured during a breeding
that's not supervised by a human that's experienced with these things.
The most common breeding-related injury is probably where the bitch
decides she's tired of the whole process and tries to take the dog's
face off. Also, male dogs (unlike humans) have a bone in their penis
that can be broken during a mating.

I've never heard of an amputation occurring during a mating, but
did have one friend who's dog's penis had to be partially amputated
- not because a breeding injury; I think it was due to an infection
IRRC.

Then there's a story I heard just yesterday: someone was asking
on an email list about possible consequences of a dog tieing her
bitch in her rectum. I've got no more details on the story than
that and considering that no one on the list stepped forward
with any advice figure that this is probably a rare occurence.

Its just so sad that this happened.


Yes. Poor dog. Thanks for sharing the story - hopefully you
will have saved other dogs from experiencing related traumas.

Dianne

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Old January 18th 05, 09:28 PM
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diannes wrote:
I've never heard of an amputation occurring during a mating, but
did have one friend who's dog's penis had to be partially amputated
- not because a breeding injury; I think it was due to an infection
IRRC.


Well, Mr. Noah had an inch or so of his manliness removed, apparently
the victim of persistent self-abuse. I suppose you might categorize
this as a "non-breeding" injury...


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Old January 18th 05, 09:38 PM
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"diannes" wrote in message
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FWIW, this isn't technically a castration, which is removal of the
testicles rather than removal of the penis.


You know, for all that I don't consider myself a total ignoramus, I truly
wasn't aware that castration only pertained to the testicles. I've always
heard it as a threat to removing a penis, it was even used in the news
articles going around during the Bobbit case. Learn something new everyday.

Dogs tieing ("locking") during a breeding is the norm; slip matings
(where there's no tie) are the exception. It's actually not uncommon
for male dogs (regardless of age) to get injured during a breeding
that's not supervised by a human that's experienced with these things.
The most common breeding-related injury is probably where the bitch
decides she's tired of the whole process and tries to take the dog's
face off. Also, male dogs (unlike humans) have a bone in their penis
that can be broken during a mating.

I've never heard of an amputation occurring during a mating, but
did have one friend who's dog's penis had to be partially amputated
- not because a breeding injury; I think it was due to an infection
IRRC.


Thanks, I knew injuries were common but the amputation described just
flabbergasted me. Things may get ugly now. Owner of male dog says he's
going to take the ER bill to owner of female dog because A) his dog was
injured on his property by loose dog and B) the town has leash laws. He's
so upset about what happened that he may even be considering pressing
charges for ignoring the leash laws and/or filing suit if the bitch's owner
isn't willing to accept some sort of financial responsibility. I hope that
doesn't happen as I think a valuable lesson has been learned by all (just a
shame it would take something like this for that to happen) and I'd truly
hate to see what the media would do with such a story.

Then there's a story I heard just yesterday: someone was asking
on an email list about possible consequences of a dog tieing her
bitch in her rectum. I've got no more details on the story than
that and considering that no one on the list stepped forward
with any advice figure that this is probably a rare occurence.


Oh my.


--
Tara


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Old January 18th 05, 09:50 PM
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As gruesome as this sounds, It would be very interesting to see how this turns
out...not just if both dogs are ok but how the bill and law is interpreted.

Can you tell us the breeds involved? Does the owner of the male dog have any say
in what happens to any potential offspring? what this dog meant to be shown and
thus, that's why he wasn't neutered?


Tee wrote:

"diannes" wrote in message
...

FWIW, this isn't technically a castration, which is removal of the
testicles rather than removal of the penis.


You know, for all that I don't consider myself a total ignoramus, I truly
wasn't aware that castration only pertained to the testicles. I've always
heard it as a threat to removing a penis, it was even used in the news
articles going around during the Bobbit case. Learn something new everyday.

Dogs tieing ("locking") during a breeding is the norm; slip matings
(where there's no tie) are the exception. It's actually not uncommon
for male dogs (regardless of age) to get injured during a breeding
that's not supervised by a human that's experienced with these things.
The most common breeding-related injury is probably where the bitch
decides she's tired of the whole process and tries to take the dog's
face off. Also, male dogs (unlike humans) have a bone in their penis
that can be broken during a mating.

I've never heard of an amputation occurring during a mating, but
did have one friend who's dog's penis had to be partially amputated
- not because a breeding injury; I think it was due to an infection
IRRC.


Thanks, I knew injuries were common but the amputation described just
flabbergasted me. Things may get ugly now. Owner of male dog says he's
going to take the ER bill to owner of female dog because A) his dog was
injured on his property by loose dog and B) the town has leash laws. He's
so upset about what happened that he may even be considering pressing
charges for ignoring the leash laws and/or filing suit if the bitch's owner
isn't willing to accept some sort of financial responsibility. I hope that
doesn't happen as I think a valuable lesson has been learned by all (just a
shame it would take something like this for that to happen) and I'd truly
hate to see what the media would do with such a story.

Then there's a story I heard just yesterday: someone was asking
on an email list about possible consequences of a dog tieing her
bitch in her rectum. I've got no more details on the story than
that and considering that no one on the list stepped forward
with any advice figure that this is probably a rare occurence.


Oh my.

--
Tara


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Old January 18th 05, 09:58 PM
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"Darby Wiggins" wrote in message
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Can you tell us the breeds involved?


The male is a Min. Schnauzer not sure about the female.

Does the owner of the male dog have any say
in what happens to any potential offspring?


I seriously doubt it. There was no contract in place for a breeding and
without such a thing I can't imagine him having a leg to stand on with
regards to any possible puppies produced.

what this dog meant to be shown and
thus, that's why he wasn't neutered?


No but he was only 7mo and was scheduled for neutering.

--
Tara


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Old January 18th 05, 10:56 PM
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"Tee" wrote in message
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Bitch in heat comes walking into the yard, dogs hook up, bitch takes off,
ripping pup's penis off in the process.


That's pretty damn sad.
I know of someone who intentionally bred their two dogs, and a similar thing
happened (because she was too busy to actually supervise them) but the dog
died as a result of blood loss due to the broken member. Sick, sad, and
totally unnecessary - and this person didn't learn from that experience,
either. She continued to acquire dogs to breed, killing another one by
dropping it (it was a Chihuahua) and though she professed to "love" her
dogs, her actions seemed to indicate otherwise... yuck.

Christy


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Old January 19th 05, 10:16 PM
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I don't think the dog's owner is being unreasonable at all in demanding
money to cover the veterinary care. I hate those invisible fences for
this reason, but none of the damage to his dog would have occurred if
the bitch's owner had kept her confined. I'd think it was her
responsibility if it was a fight related injury (though he'd bear some
moral responsibility since there was no fence to protect his dog
against irresponsible people's dogs) but considering it was a bitch in
heat, that kind of negligence SHOULD be actionable.

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Old January 20th 05, 02:20 AM
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"Tee" wrote in message
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| This is an extremely sad, disgusting story but I think there may be some
| merit in repeating it for
|
| 1. why you shouldn't let your dog roam.
|
| 2. why you should spay/neuter your dog.
|
| 3. why invisible fences aren't foolproof.
|
| Someone I know informed me today that his 7mo intact male dog, who was
| scheduled for neuter in February, just lost his penis yesterday.
|
| An invisible fence was installed two weeks ago so the pup could be out
front
| while the owner was out there working. Owner was in the garage during
this
| time.
|
| Bitch in heat comes walking into the yard, dogs hook up, bitch takes off,
| ripping pup's penis off in the process. Owner isn't aware of the mating
| going on but becomes immediately aware of the situation when the pup
starts
| screaming.
|
| ER Vet is amputating the rest of the appendage and will create a man-made
| vagina in the male so he can urinate in the future. Prognosis is very
good
| but well over $2,300 in expenses.
|
| Female dog's owner brought penis to the ER vet, I'm guessing she too
decided
| to take her dog in when she discovered what was inside the dog, but it was
| too late to help.


oh lord, what a horrible story. Glad the fellow has a family willing to
invest in his repair.


 




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