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harnesses
What is it with people thinking harnesses are a great tool for walking
a dog? I can see using them for various physical maladies, but why would anyone want to go to the trouble to put one on a dog, when it's such an ineffective tool? I had 3 new clients in a row on Tuesday. Each one of them had a dog aggressive dog (one was people aggressive as well). Each one was being walked on a harness. And these people wondered why they had trouble controlling their dogs' behavior? Fortunately, all of them were open to other tools and the dogs responded wonderfully. It was just weird to have 3 harness users in one day. Janet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:53:54 -0500, Janet B
wrote: What is it with people thinking harnesses are a great tool for walking a dog? I can see using them for various physical maladies, but why would anyone want to go to the trouble to put one on a dog, when it's such an ineffective tool? I had 3 new clients in a row on Tuesday. Each one of them had a dog aggressive dog (one was people aggressive as well). Each one was being walked on a harness. And these people wondered why they had trouble controlling their dogs' behavior? Ok, I'll bite: what is the connection between harness usage and aggression? If it was one of those over-the-snout whatchamacallits I could see it, but a simple harness? Lee |
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"Janet B" wrote in message ... What is it with people thinking harnesses are a great tool for walking a dog? I can see using them for various physical maladies, but why would anyone want to go to the trouble to put one on a dog, when it's such an ineffective tool? i think they might work for some toy breeds, but yeah, on a big dog they just seem dumb. when i was a dumb noob dog owner, i bought one for Lola (when she was 3 months old and under 20 pounds), thinking it would keep her from choking on her collar. it took about 10 minutes to realize it just gave her more leverage to pull. you'd be amazed at how hard a three month old pit bull can pull! -kelly |
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Janet B wrote:
What is it with people thinking harnesses are a great tool for walking a dog? I use a harness on Khan. It started with the use of one of those no-pull harnesses (ones that don't work) while teaching him to loose leash walk. I liked how it fit him, and didn't put any strain on his neck, so continued to use it, even after he learned to loose-leash walk. After that one died, I got a new harness. Oh, and I like having a "handle" for my dog, BTW. Not that I'd be very effective at toting him about. For some reason, people don't seem to realize that pulling is a whole lot more effective when the dog can put its shoulder into it. Wouldn't recommend it for dogs that don't know how to walk properly on a leash, but otherwise see no harm in it. Suja |
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"Lee DeRaud" wrote in message news Ok, I'll bite: what is the connection between harness usage and aggression? If it was one of those over-the-snout whatchamacallits I could see it, but a simple harness? the harness makes it easier for the dog to pull, to lunge, and to get out of the owner's control. i don't see how a halti would be a problem with aggression, though. -kelly |
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:16:18 -0800, "culprit"
wrote: "Lee DeRaud" wrote in message news Ok, I'll bite: what is the connection between harness usage and aggression? If it was one of those over-the-snout whatchamacallits I could see it, but a simple harness? the harness makes it easier for the dog to pull, to lunge, and to get out of the owner's control. Oh, ok, as in "makes it easier for an aggressive dog to *act* aggressive". I was reading it as "the halter *made* the dogs aggressive". Chicken and egg. i don't see how a halti would be a problem with aggression, though. No, I meant the use of one of those might signify that the owner knows the dog is aggressive and is using the Halti to (try to) control it. (I have no opinion one way or the other on how effective that is.) Lee |
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when i was a dumb noob dog owner, i bought one for Lola (when she was 3 months old and under 20 pounds), thinking it would keep her from choking on her collar. it took about 10 minutes to realize it just gave her more leverage to pull. you'd be amazed at how hard a three month old pit bull can pull! -kelly exactly. it doesn't cause aggression, it just enables it (or pulling or lunging). It just so happens that these people were using a totally NON CORRECTIVE tool to walk their dogs, and the dogs' behavior was escalating and never getting curbed. 3 slip collars and one prong later (large dog, infirm owner, slip and prong combo), and the dogs are paying attention! Janet Boss http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience |
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"Leah" wrote in message ... No I wouldn't. I've had enough of 'em in classes to find out for myself. :} You're not in the market for another pit mix, are you? Man, I want to get this guy next door a good home. I'll even drive him to you. :} no way, not until my two are a bit more grown up. some lady at the grocery store heard my friend and i talking about dogs and tried to give me a pit bull she had found. it's like i have a huge sign on my head that says, "sucker for pit bulls in need!" *sigh* i wish i could help them all. -kelly |
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"Janet B" wrote
snip What is it with people thinking harnesses are a great tool for walking a dog? Harnesses aren't the problem. People not training their dogs to walk politely on a leash is the problem. Harnesses are not effective training tools but they're perfectly fine for dogs that are trained. I walk all of my dogs on harnesses and have no trouble at all. I started with them when Shane chipped his Atlas bone and haven't been sorry. Andrea Stone Saorsa Basenjis |
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In article Z_jKd.4867$SP4.727@trnddc07,
AndreaS wrote: Harnesses aren't the problem. People not training their dogs to walk politely on a leash is the problem. Harnesses are not effective training tools but they're perfectly fine for dogs that are trained. My guys are a special case, at least around here, but they're certainly harness-trained - they know that when they're on a collar they're to behave like ladies and gentlemen (except for Cinder, who's still not properly leash-trained I'm embarrassed to say) and when they're in harness to pull like trains. Is it possible that the harness advocates somehow confused anti-pull harnesses with walking harnesses? -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - In 1978, George Bush was warning that Social Security would go broke in 10 years |
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